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Is there a general heuristic for simplifying flop cbet sizings? Like bet the weighted average of whatever sizings are used? Often I'm apparently supposed to split my sizings in confusing ways that wouldn't really work out in game.
For example, BvB 50NL simple on GTO Wizard - flop JT6ss. Overall SB checking frequency is 69%. 2p+ bets half the time and is mixing between betting small, medium and overbetting. Overpairs are mostly betting, and prefers to overbet although it mixes medium and small as well. Top pair bets about 40% of the time, prefers a small size but mixes medium and overbets as well. Second pair mostly checks and when it does bet almost always bets small. 99-77 basically never bet. Everything 6x or worse mostly checks and mixes all sizings when they bet.
How am I supposed to make sense of this? Would it be better to simply bet medium or check and split sizings on turn or river?
Feb. 8, 2023 | 6:08 p.m.
I only have the basic plan unfortunately. Could you summarize the main points if you've watched it?
Jan. 23, 2023 | 5:45 p.m.
Sorry totally thought I responded. Here are some run outs in 3 and 4 bet pots that involve mostly the 10% size. And one 4BP line that splits which I thought was interesting. Seems to occur sometimes on weird straight/flush boards. And also the only logical explanation I can think of for using 10% is that villain way overfolds relative to MDF, especially in 4BP.
10% pot lines (3BP)
SB vs BTN QJ9ss x/c 1/3p 4 x/x 5 SB 10%, BTN folds 26%, raises 31%
SB vs BTN Q87ss x/x T x/x A SB splits between 10% and 36%
vs the 10% BTN folds 38%, raises 19%; vs the 36% BTN folds 50%, raises 14%
SB vs BTN KQ3r 1/3p J 2/3p T 10%, BTN folds 12%, raises 42%
10% pot lines (4BP)
BTN vs SB A92r 10%, SB folds 40%, raises 44%
BTN vs SB K55r 10%, SB folds 59%, raises 28%
BTN vs SB K73ss 10%, SB folds 45%, raises 28%
BTN vs SB QJ4ss splits between 10%, 75% and 140% shove
vs 10% SB folds 27%, raises 27%
vs 75% SB folds 58%, raises 32%
vs 140% SB also folds 58% (weird lol)
Jan. 23, 2023 | 5:42 p.m.
Sorry if this is the wrong section couldn't find a "theory" section.
Been playing around in GTO Wizard and in a lot of 4 bet pots or river situations in 3 bet pots the solver prefers a 10% bet. Can someone explain why? The only explanations I can think of is that villain over folds relative to MDF vs that sizing or that equity denial isn't important.
Jan. 12, 2023 | 6:02 p.m.
Thank you for all your contributions to the poker community. Best of luck with trading and perhaps we will battle it out online, at Casino Niagara or Woodbine if they ever actually get a poker room.
Jan. 4, 2023 | 6:16 p.m.
What tracker are you using? And does that feature where it auto-generates notes on which hands are in their 3 bet or 4 bet range etc included or an add on? I thought note caddy or similar features were banned from Stars did they reverse that decision?
Dec. 24, 2022 | 7:30 p.m.
RaoulFlush could you elaborate? Why is a JTxss flop a nightmare for BB as opposed to say AKxss. or even just Axxss? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you and you meant it's another example of the many nightmare flops for BB in general.
April 27, 2022 | 5:07 p.m.
Surely a reg BTN cbetting 1/3 pot on flops that aren't middling flops are doing so with range right? Seems like most regs are doing that these days cause it's the easiest flop cbetting strategy.
On another note, I'm concerned about x/r flops where we don't have a nut advantage. For example a flop like JT2 where as BB we aren't supposed to have JJ/TT and sometimes we don't have JTs. Can't BTN just 3 bet more than he should and put us through hell cause we are capped and he isn't?
April 19, 2022 | 1:09 p.m.
In one of the videos from Pete Clarke's From The Ground Up course, he talks about how a "secret" to being miles ahead of the population is raising merged vs range bets as opposed to the common strategy of raising polarized.
An example he talked about was BTN opens, BB defends and BTN cbets 1/3 pot with his entire range on 742r. According to him, we should be check raising hands like some 7x, A4s, 2x with good backdoors and obviously super strong stuff like sets and overpairs we didn't 3 bet pre. This is done apparently to deny equity and for thin value (or fat value when it comes to the top of our range).
My question is wouldn't this leave our calling range weak and vulnerable to aggressive barreling on turns and rivers? Can't BTN just barrel aggressively and with frequent overbets to pressure our weak range? Also say we x/r a medium strength thin value hand like the A4s mentioned in the video. Turn comes a picture card. Now what? If we bet again it becomes really thin and unclear whether it's thin value or in bluff territory. If we check we give up control of the pot and equity denial.
April 18, 2022 | 1:41 p.m.
DUDE! I just realized I played 1/2 with you at woodbine a few times way back in like 2015. Glad to see you've been doing well in poker!
Sept. 22, 2021 | 1:57 p.m.
Noise gate when recording. Twitch streamers do it especially for first person shooters. I agree while the content seems promising I simply cannot watch just cause of the clicking.
Why do you think you can develop passion if you don't currently have a passion? For most people who stop playing for fun and start playing seriously, they lose passion over time.
Feb. 8, 2023 | 6:14 p.m.