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Awesome!

I will take a look at that video.

Thanks.

Hello Tyler!

09:40, top left table. We are in BB with K7s and face a 3bb MP open. You say K7s is well within a profitable defending range (and I would tend to agree based solely on intuition). Looking at the numbers brings up a question.

Let's assume a MP 3x to be roughly 20%:
22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,98s,87s,76s,65s,ATo+,KJo+

Against this range, K7s has precisely 40% equity. Given our odds, assuming no rake, this means our R needs to be equal or greater than 0.769 for this to be a break even call.

• Do you think an R of around 0.8 is reasonable for this type of hand in this spot?

• Do you have any rough guideline for what a typical R is for suited hands (or offsuit hands) when calling from the BB? (Or any other hand type, for example suited connectors, offsuit connectors, and so on - if you're feeling generous)!

I would love to see a video on this kind of pre-flop stuff. Determining which types of hands are profitable defends in an in-depth manner. (I've been working a bit on this on my own and it would be great to hear what a vastly more experienced player like yourself has to say about it, especially concerning R values and what determines them).

Thanks a lot!

I hope you fellows excuse my half-joking comment here:

Villain that 3-bets 4x and then pot CB the flop is very likely a fun player. A fun player will not fold any pair on the river versus this action, so it's probably best to take SD with AK and hope to win. \analysis

That said, I very much appreciate and enjoy the in-depth strategy discussion you guys are putting forth. I agree that it's the best way to approach any hand and that strategy discussion should never/rarely be limited to the type of comments I just made.

And I know that you (Ben) always make an effort to play a very solid fundamental game in all your videos and not deviate too much from it without great reason, which is awesome.

I'm enjoying the discussion.

Hi Ben!

Great content as always.

38:45: You call Td8d SB versus BT. Flop comes Qd Jc 6d and it checks around. Turn is 9c and you lead. I would default to check/raising here with the reasoning that most of the hands willing to call a bet will bet themselves when checked to (AJ, KJ, the occasional Qx and hands that improved on the 9 like Q9, J9, 99, 96s) and this way we hopefully get to put more money in than we do when leading, basically. (I don't expect to get raised so often when we lead here). (A smaller point is also that we allow the occasional give-up to maybe delayed CB here, like Kx or Tx, depending on how he plays).

What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks!

A most solid video.

I really like how you always bring concrete explanations in a way where you can really just hear that they are backed by many thousands of hours of play and analysis. Keep doing what you're doing!

As for video suggestions, using the PioSolver to take a look at some typical high frequency spots that the typical player might be misplaying would be nice to see. But any video is always nice.

im interested too, send me pm

Very much enjoy your videos! You're articulate and present your reasoning very well. Keep it up.

Thanks for answer, got one following question.
On this turns that you are donking, is it always same sizing of 1/4? What if turn was one even better for us , 6x lets say(maybe bad example because board is liekly to be cbeted by 6x, but hope you understand what i mean)

Hey, nice video!
On 11:00 you donk AJ saying you are doing it for protection and vbetting since villain doesnt have so many Ax, so why are you doing same on 24:00 where there is no need for protection. Yea we have a better range equity, but BTN has better distribution of it. And are you doing those with whole range?

There is one mistake in the calculations.

The total pot size when AI will not be $52 but $46.33:

Villain's stack of $23.04 x 2 + $0.25 BB = $46.33

(The SB is not counted separately as you are in that position and have already paid it, so it's included in the call of his stack - or at an earlier point depending on what you decide to calculate. Can't find a way to explain that in better words it seems).

You can only calculate using effective stack sizes (the smallest stack involved, for two players), if you count your higher stack it results in a calculation that has you winning more than his stack when you do win, which is not the case. Against this player, you also have only $23.04 in play, so any calculation should use that as your stack size.

The final pot if you call him will be $46.33, and the amount you are calling is his stack minus your 3-bet size: $23.04 - $2.5 = $20.54. So you are risking $20.54 to win $46.33. Thus you need 20.54 / 46.33 = 44.33% equity for a breakeven call.

If you put his range as QQ+ you have 34.59% and should fold. (FWIW I don't think we can exclude AK for the typical opponent, as this sizing may well also include that hand).

This assumes that he never 4-bet/folds.

what af3 wanted to say is that if you fold more then 60%, yes villain will auto profit with some hands like Q9, but that doesnt mean that betting Q9 would be higher ev for villian then checking back that hand and taking free equity. so you maybe dont have to defend 1-A (oop)

what af3 wanted to say is that if you fold more then 60%, yes villain will auto profit with some hands like Q9, but that doesnt mean that betting Q9 would be higher ev for villian then checking back that hand and taking free equity. so you maybe dont have to defend 1-A (oop)

Hey,
around 29:00, why cbet with J8? Do you cbet your whole range on that board in those particular positions?

I liked the video. It's nice how you seem to tackle each spot with a solid understanding of what's going on and how all ranges interact. Really shows what sort of understanding of the game many years of play and analysis may lead up to. Thumbs up.

Very solid videos, just keep doing what you're doing!

yea i understand why not 3 streets,but what i meant is why flop check
thanks

41:45 why checking with AT, isnt better to value bet that hand and check weaker top pairs?
how do you split your top pair range there?