chequeraise
8 points
If the reg is isolating reasonably wide (which is very likely) this looks like shove. It's only 5 handed as well.
If the reg opens we would 3bet shove as well right, again assuming he is opening reasonably wide (aka not a mega nit).
May 24, 2018 | 10:12 p.m.
Shove. Lots of cards can kill your action on river and you are OOP so he will check back a shit ton, you would have to donk rivers to get max value which will be super awkward.
May 24, 2018 | 10:08 p.m.
The problem is the recreational player. He deposits 50€ and plays and loses 10€, then he has to go dinner with his wife. After he comes back, he can no longer play at the €50NL since he only has 40€. Yet being forced to go 20€NL will feel as much as a defeat since his memory of the 50€NL and his 10€ loss there is still fresh. At 20€NL it will feel much more impossible/harder to win that back and thats exactly what he wants.
Anyway with a kind of bad vibe already he shrugs and plays 20€NL, after a couple of hours he loses and he only now has 3€ left.
There are no 3€NL tables, he can't join the 5€NL tables, he is forced to withdraw or re-deposit. At this point he will leave RunItOnce forever and return back to his favorite EU site.
May 24, 2018 | 11:51 a.m.
Have we calculated the EV of 3betting turn compared to calling?
I know that most of his draws will fold to a 3bet, but against this type of player any made hand that raised for value will almost never fold. We have like 90% equity against his 3bet calling range.
Against his check raise range, I would say we have around 85% equity overall, but we will not be able to get the money in on a lot of rivers.
His raising range on the turn is probably very skewed towards bluffs, like you mentioned, bluffs could be as much as 80% of his range.
So if we raise he will continue 20% of the time, and we win 90000$ when we 3bet and get it in.
If we call, and he bet river and we raise, he will fold 85% of the time and he will have us beat around 15% of the time. I guess we win lets say optimisticly around 20000$ 85% of the time.
Am I completely miscalculating this or is the EV of 3betting turn not that insanely far apart from calling turn, or maybe even slightly more +EV?
May 24, 2018 | 1:50 a.m.
With 10bb I'm pretty happy about jamming JTs pre here.
Aug. 13, 2015 | 12:48 p.m.
BN: 434,809
SB: 627,632
BB: 1,515,421
UTG: 553,421 (Hero)
Aug. 13, 2015 | 11:57 a.m.
UTG+1: 9,590
MP+1: 5,362
CO: 10,203
BN: 6,980
SB: 4,914 (Hero)
BB: 4,237
UTG: 3,179
Ac means he is not checking back with Ahi flush. I think generally most flushes that check back are the ones with some showdown value compared to say 45cc, so when he bets the Ac I think his range is really much more weighted towards Ax or medium-ish equity hands that didnt want to get C/R.
I think check calling and check raising seem both fine with some frequency. I think my default is def C/R. With a delayed C/R I dont think you necessarily rep a too small range either for him to only nit-call you.
If he's checking back stuff like T weak kicker or 8 medium kicker you probably only get 1 street of value out of it anyway so you can just bet river if turn goes check check.
May 29, 2018 | 10:38 p.m.