Chase Steely

I’d rather see this format with 3 tables. Seems a bit scrambled and could improve.

Why do you think PiO wanted to almost unanimously x/r top set at 45 and 80bbs? That stood out to me.

I haven't watched any of Apotheosis' videos but someone with the username 'Young God' calling someone else arrogant is rich.

fold... if u somehow dodge his AAxx KKxx ranges u run into his 89TJ range actually kind of shocked that this would be debatable. Never fold pre EVER honestly would like to see some poker juice numbers for what ur actual equity would be vs reasonable ranges. 25% is what comes to mind

Pot the turn he will perceive that he has 0 fold equity which will rule out him having anything but draws which will give you complete visibility and him with false visibility this will allow u to bluff almost every river only with the part of ur range with little to 0 equity would i make this play. ck back all ur hands that don't have enough equity to bet call. Bet call all ur top 2flush draws top and mid set and and bottom and mid bottom set with flush draws also bet call them off. It's late tbh i can't sleep but i think there is something to this stack sizing and potting with air when ur opponent perceives 0 fold equity on this board.

Easy river bluff spot along with having the blockers your turn SPR leverages him into checking back a lot of his 8Txx 3betting combos to see a free river and avoid being ck raised off a lot of equity. I don't think we can fold the flop we have way too many good turns for our hand T,Q, any heart, A we could also donk lead some 4,5,6's on the turn that would make us super difficult to play against I mean we do have 456x combos and seeing as tho our c/o range isn't as tight as other positions and more of those 456x combos weighted higher after our flop ck call. We also do win when he has air by bluffing this river which I have to think is at least 5-10% depending on ur read on his aggression basically on all streets. -Well played hand

Great vid! Sound was fine. Enjoyed the commentary.

Depends on the player and how many c/r bluffs you think he will have in this spot (with a player still behind). I don't like SPR on the turn and feel like he will give up a lot of his bluffs vs having slightly over pot where he might get a decent price to pot it and go with a low equity hand on some turns. His range flatting out of the small blind on average consists of raps, top 2, gutter with a pair semi bluffs, all sets, oesd, and air vs that entire range it makes sense to make it 90k or 100k as this will allow us to not lose action from top 2 or bottom set to bad turns such as 2,3,5,7, and 8. Also, if he has Q6 his hand shrinks when an A or a K hit the turn. It also allows us to protect.

btw, any reads on Villain at all? Loose, agro, pro, old guy?? give me something:)

solid vid!

Always I find the best sizing here to a be a minraise vs almost all players. It's also best for your range seeing as tho a lot of the range he could be perceived to have are str8 draw flush draw combos and GT wise we want told fold all those out by paying the least amount to do so. I would do something really annoying to the villain here and tank for a solid amount of time before minraising. Even tho it's transparent what you are doing by tanking it can look like you came to the conclusion he had a missed draw and u can easily rep the nuts here so min raising is the best option you came up with. In spots where my hand is pretty face up I think you have to get a little creative to get paid off in live poker. I've played thousands of hours of live PLO and I can only remember minraise bluffing in a spot like this once and it working which makes me feel like I've missed some opportunities or forgotten some times that I've done it. In standard spots when hands are more or less face up I think going outside the box and trying to think of something semi creative is your best option "not that tanking is really that creative" I just think the value that comes from this spot is going to have to come from any way you can come up with to try to level the Villain.

All that being said... Can we pretend you had KT9c4c and u went for a minraise bluff on the river and poll the audience if we thought it was a profitable play? I vote yes. If not immediately profitable... Possibly it could hold some future equity in showing the table that your willing to go a little crazy in some super thin spots...

Villain likely was at least somewhat competent given that we are at 10/20 and he's sitting full stacked. This is not confirmed we had only played 1 maybe 2 orbitz together. One key fact that should be noted… I'm new to the site that I was playing on so in no way should we assume from me not seeing him before that he doesn't play everyday or isn't a winning reg.
I believe it always makes sense to use bigger sizing such as 1k or more into 1.3k simply bc my value is going to come from repping the blocker. I did however consider using the sizing of 750 or 850 but I thought that didn't properly represent the blocker.
spassewr I really like the comments about me being more blocker heavy from the bb as well as you saying his turn sizing looks more like value flush type hands let's also not forget his 88/66 set range is somewhat minimal. I think we can all agree it's a very clear river bet sometimes I overanalyze these mistakes I believe for 2 reasons… 1. for some reason I like to punish myself to find out how big of a mistake my play was. 2. I want to try to find the most optimal way to play this spot.

Nontoxic Do you think an avg unbelieving opp. will turn one of these hands into a bluff?
Do you think a tough unbelieving opp. will turn one of these hands into a bluff?

1. I def don't think the average player turns these hands into a bluff even tho I think it's a reasonable play to do so. I could be wrong but generally I think too many players are overly satisfied to chk back and see if they are good with top 2 or a mid flush.

2. I think a tough opponent will turn these hands into a bluff close to 25/30% of the time so it would seem to be a break even call if I ck and he pots the river.

Some honestly on my end even tho I'm not thrilled to admit it…. I believe I was going to ck fold riv even tho looking back with his timing on the turn (he actually tank called the turn which is super rarely a set given the price I gave him and he stacks me most of the time when the board pairs)
That being said

range vs range… I believe in this spot most ppl don't bet top set or mid set when they r the initial raiser in pos on a K863 flop on this turn. I have a few theories of why I would bet with top and mid set if I'm the Villain. I'm not ck folding some of my 2pair combos as well as all of my sets of 66 turned sets of 3's and some 2 pair hands that have almost 0 equity. I believe if I chose to fold all these hands I would be exploited pretty heavily in the long run. That being said a 190 bet into 250 would get value from those hands and it would also protect against all str8 draw combos that I called the flop with. Lastly it would build the pot when Villain is in position and leave him in a profitable spot for future equity on all paired boards.

Let's analyze what happens when hero has a flush and villain bets the turn… When villain does run into hero's made flush range on the turn and he bets 190 into 250 all of that range will be flatting except for nut flush which will will raise some of the time but not always. That being said on all rivers that don't pair the board the action will almost always go ck ck. Which leaves me losing 1 turn bet vs his entire flush range. On this particular flop 6s8hKs after hero flats out of the BB if the turn makes hero a flush and Villain cks back the turn I think more often than not Villain is paying off a river bet bc of all the missed str8 draw or 1 pair gutter combos hero has that decide to bluff. This leaves us always losing one bet so that being the case why aren't we always betting top and mid set on this turn?

Great video! I'll be honest the 1.5x speed feature was the absolute best suggestion for this video. Easy to rewind also if something is missed.

If you peel, it's perfectly fine to jam over his cbet or raise/call on the flop with SPR of 2.