burek2000

Congratulations!

That was a pleasant surprise.

Hopefully Slovenia gets removed from restricted list and I can try out your masterpiece. Until then, best of luck with the launch!

I have mixed feelings about this rakeback system.

It does sound very interesting, innovative and I would enjoy such a system myself. However, I see some potential problems with it.

1. I haven't noticed mentioned in the post how is the rake and rakeback calculated. Is it weight distributed? Winner takes it/pays it all? Or is that meaningless with the mechanics of Splash the pot?

2. As mentioned before and from my understanding so far, tight players will have huge added EV from Splashed pots when the whole table gets the same added value while paying different amounts of rake player by player(loose vs tight).

3. Although you say 51% rakeback for all players, that's not the truth, but rather a chance for 51% rakeback since no player will be given any rake back per se, but only a chance to win it back with their play. As a winning player I welcome that system, however I consider it misleading due to the fact that effective rakeback between players will be anything but 51% for all players.

From those points I believe the system will be heavily taxing on recreational players.

And finally, I believe that rake on the micro stakes is very high. NL4 and NL10 are basically uncapped at 5.75% which is a whole lot. Let's not forget that new players will mainly be starting at those stakes and many get discouraged since they can't climb their way out of those stakes and high rake pays a crucial role in that.

And to be fair, I believe 51% rakeback overall seems a very high amount. Personally, I would prefer a bit lower rake with lower rakeback.

My 2 cents. And I appreciate the work you guys put in RIOPoker!

On micros you should be focused on how are you going to extract maximum value from weaker players rather than avoiding being raised.

This is a standard triple barrel hand and you should be all-in on the river. I don't even think I can fold KK here if villain raises turn given the fact he only has 72bb.

And don't be results oriented. Also, don't post them in the hand review in order to avoid biased feedback.

Yes, I would.

33 will still be strong hand HU in position. And against a passive fish you'll be able to check down on ugly boards and go for thin value/protection on good ones. When you isolate you don't play just for set value. And I would also presume you will have FE to win the pot preflop without paying any rake.

The only time I wouldn't like to isoraise would be if MP, SB and BB were all whales and the chance of winning preflop or playing HU would be very slim. Then I would lean towards overlimping, but that's rarely going to be the case.

"So pre I was thinking he can be ISOing fairly wide, once I 3B and get a 4B i aslo feel like this can still be viewed as me now being wide ranged? hence the call."

Don't think and don't presume, don't adjust to something that's not there. 3b your standard range and expand it as you get information via stats telling you he is isolating wide or you actually see villain isolate with some out of line hand. This way you're just outlevelling yourself and cause yourself problems which results in lost money.

Guys before already explained the correct play and I agree 100%.

P.S.: Flop play was standard, but don't forget you should've never been in that situation in the first place. So, flop doesn't really matter in this hand.

I would isolate the fish preflop in position.

Postflop, I like call flop and turn and you can fold river unimproved. When a passive fish starts to pot size it's a red alert for me.

Against someone playing 43/29/22 after 40 hands I'm calling river with those odds and expect him to have some random crap in his range. Also, you get to see what he had and can make a note. I believe turning TT into a bluff here is a waste of SD value.

If this was a reg on the other hand, I would just fold. Our range is quite capped with exception of few flushes and he should use small size value bets against our range. And secondly, we represent a very narrow value range by raising and that would incline villain to look us up even more likely than the sole fact that people underfold in micros.

My advice would be to learn to play tighter and for value on those stakes. When your ranges are correct, you will have tons of value to bet with(you have tons of thin value against calling stations) and showdown value to utilize and you won't need many bluffs in the first place. You have to be vary that playing too loose aggressive at those stakes can be a losing style due to rake impact.

So, first, make sure your base value game is very solid. After that, you will start to learn what spots, what boards and which players tend to fold in a given situation. Then, you can start exploiting certain spots, but know that you have to careful with choosing them as it can easily lead to you spewing unnecessary chips.

And lastly, don't try to learn from high stakes videos because players there will use principles that you can't yet understand(a lot of moves there come from lots of background knowledge and meta game that you will misuse if you try to apply) and they also quite likely wouldn't work on your stakes. Make your base game strong and build on that step after step and don't rush to crazy bluffing techniques.

I agree with Jeff_. My default play would be to call down. Villain represents narrow value range and the price he's giving you is fairly cheap.

Your thought process is on spot and raise and barrel off or even just 3x barrel on low stakes is rarely a bluff, but this type of aggro/semi aggro reg is a candidate to pull one off.

You can also check more info about the opponent to make your decision easier. Important stats in this spot would be "fold to flop c-bet", "overall bet river" and "aggression frequency/aggression factor".

If fold to c-bet is higher than 45% or overall river bet is below 30%, then you can safely presume he will seldom bluff, but if those stats are different, you be quite sure he'll have some bluffs in his range. Try to combine more stats together to get the overall image of the type of player you're dealing with.

I believe going broke preflop for 300+ bb witk KK is a mistake. I would go broke up to 200bb deep in BUvsBlinds situation.

After the BB 4bets my prefered line would be to 5b to 8$ and fold to a 6b. This way you deny BB to see cheap flop with his loose 4bets due to deep stacks(hands like A5s have tons of equity against your KK) and you force villains to play face up. When someone decides to 6b so deep it will be nuts almost all the time while you will get calls from JJ-KK/AK(btw, correct play for villain would be to call your 5b with AA this deep).

I also think calling the 4b is a viable option, but then you have to play a bit of a guessing game when SB 5bets. In general I would expect him to be extremely tight in this spot and just fold KK although there might be an argument that BB could/should have a wide range and you cap yourself by just calling and SB could presume to have decent FE by 5betting.

Thus a 5b leads to you making fewer mistakes and it's much easier to play.

I can't see your hand nor can I see the board cards. Please update your open post.

Maybe try to post a link to your hand on weaktight or take a screenshot of your hand and post that.

Just a general microstakes advice, never try to bluff opponents off strong hands. You said you put him on an overpair which is never going to fold, therefore just give up. Make sure to go for value when you can and don't spew.

Flop play depends on the opponent. If he c-bets too much, then you can x/r flop and give up unimproved. If he has a lower or normal c-bet frequency, then it's best to just give up on the flop. Most players will check back with weak part of the range on low and/or connected boards and give up too much to your turn bet and you can exploit that while overfolding to their flop c-bets.

As mentioned before, fold preflop since JTo is too weak against HJ range.

Basically all has already been said, I would just like to add the importance of sample size here. How many hands did you have on villain? And what were his overall stats VPIP/PFR?

It's easy to happen that 20/18 player has 6/6 stats on EP after 500 hands in which case this would be an easy call down. But easy turn fold if he's a 11/10 nit with 6/6 EP.

Don't base your decisions solely on one stat when your sample size isn't sufficient. Always use stats with a grain of salt.

I haven't played NL10 in quite some time and this could very well be a call, it's also why I wrote below the hero can call if he thinks people will overplay hands like AJ or even spazz randomly, it depends on population of the site and limit.

In hands like that all the info you might have picked up on opponents comes very useful.

However, from my experience people will tend to play passively with draws and rarely overplay TP here.

On the side note, I would call if we didn't block Ac and opponents could have NFDs in their ranges. People play those aggressively more often and I would expect them to be higher part of the villain's range in 3bp than random straigt or flush draws.

I would jam this preflop. Pot and spr are too big to just call imo and when villain has QQ+/AK you beat his range and you will have trouble getting any more value from him postflop if he misses.

Furthermore, if fish has a strong hand he likes like TT+/AQ+ he might as well go broke preflop. While calling because fish might overcall isn't sufficient reason to let UTG see a free flop.

As played, I would lean towards folding the flop. I would expect villain to play face up with 4b preflop and on this flop.

After BB shoves the pot is 16.92$ and you have to call 9.41$. Your needed equity is

AMOUNT TO CALL/FINAL POT=NEEDED EQUITY

therefore

9.41/(9.41+16.92)=35.74%

So, your needed equity is 35.74% and not 51%. Actually, your needed equity can never exceed 50%.

Now, to the hand...

Equity Win Tie
MP2 73.51% 73.51% 0.00% JJ, 77-66, KcQc, QcTc, Tc9c, 9c8c, 5c4c
MP3 26.49% 26.49% 0.00% AA

You can see that even if we're very generous with flush draws, your equity doesn't even come to 30%. Therefore it's a bet/fold for me.

You can call if you have some info that opponents are bad and can overplay something like AJ, but most of the time you will only face value hands that beat you. Lot's of players won't even have all those flush draws in the range due to 3b pot and many will play draws passively on the flop which is all but the more reason to bet/fold.

I would fold against the unknown. Simply because it's going to be a marginal call at best against his range and it can be heavy on your mental game when you loose a stack in a limped pot like that. Not to mention you'll doubt your decision for the rest of your session. Just focus on spots that matter and make sure you play well there and print money on microstakes.

Calling is not a mistake(at least not a big one), but I prefer to avoid high variance spots where your EV is about breakeven and possibly negative.

I would call this shove with sets or better, but if you raise PP preflop, then you're left with straights only which is perfectly fine with such a huge SPR.

P.S.: I agree with raising preflop. Forgot to mention that.

I would look at more than just overall 3b here. What's his pfr/vpip? His fold to 4b? 6% 3b overall seems pretty tight to me and I would just fold preflop especially when his sizing is pretty big for in-position 3-bet.

Postflop, I would make even smaller c-bet, my standard in 4b pots is 25%. And after the c-bet I would give up like others have said. This tight guy won't have much to fold and you can't even be sure he doesn't slowplay KK+, seen many times over in NL20-50.

Betting range on this flop and OOP is terrible.

Check range > Mixed strat of check and big c-bet >>> Bet range.

You have a perfect hand to x/r flop and barrel off.

As played, I would call simply because your line seems weird(super small flop bet, big turn bet, again smaller half pot sized river bet) and can tilt a weak opponent into doing something "creative" on the river. But if you had made standard sized barrels on all 3 streets, then it would've been a rather easy fold against a nitty player.

As a player who spends a lot of time on computer I value more and more dark/low brightness themes in computer programs to make them easy on the eyes. Hence I voted for the darkest table theme available in the poll. I believe there should be at least one dark, low contrast theme available.

As for table cap, I have voted 6-cap. 4 tables might be better for the longevity of the games, but for me personally 4 tables are too limiting and would put me off.

Furthermore, 6 tables cap sounds like a much safer option for RIO at launch(early liquidity and higher chance of games actually running) and I don't think the better game quality can compensate for that, especially as I wouldn't expect it to be drastically better 4 vs 6 tables cap.

I second nice results!

You look like a solid winner and one limit increase usually isn't twice harder, but turnover is, meaning you should improve your hourly winnings. It's a problem when you're barely a winner at your stake, then a small decrease in winrate can turn a winner into a losing player, but with your winrate I wouldn't be afraid of that.

And playing tougher opponents helps improve faster.

Good luck at NL50z!

I would've 3bet this hand preflop, $0.51 should be enough considering neither of you is fully stacked and BU opened to a fairly large size.

Flop, as played, I would play check/call, but if you think he's loose enough to have a value check/raise, then make it bigger like $0.85 and shove turn.

River, as played, it's a call for me. You get 3:1 odds and he could have a worse Qx and busted draws, so you should be good often enough to justify the call.

Unfortunately, on MPN there is no hand history of anon tables at all. And what's the worst is that when you win at showdown and villain mucks his hand you can't see what he had.

Also when you write a note on the player at the table in poker software, the note is gone as soon as the player leaves the table. That's why I said taking notes is useless.

But that being said, you gave me an idea to just start noting down in notebook how often I see a bluff and how often a value bet in similar spots. It should at least help me destroy any biases I might have and get a better overall feeling of population tendencies.

I also have the belief(not evidence), that people are a little more shy when it comes to bluff shoving deeper stacks.

I agree. In deep pots people tend to be value heavy and more face up.

Maybe I'm just out of the loop and people are doing this now but why did you decide that you weren't going to have a calling range from the SB in these spots?

I would, ya. The reasons that most people play 3 bet or fold from the SB is that it's tough to balance a calling and 3 betting range, we end up with a well-defined calling range, BB can squeeze aggressively vs our cold calls, the opener can be very aggressive on certain board textures etc.

You already summarized quite well yourself. What I would add is that against competent opponents playing postflop OOP is burning me money in the long run. It's hard to bluff and to get value and most of the hands I would consider calling gets quite crushed by ranges of both opponents that have position on us. It's just such an inferior position to put myself into. And also we can't defend against occasional squeeze by BB.

Furthermore, I've noticed most regs on anon go quite out of line with 3bets which means you will face BB squeeze more often than you would on regular tables.

And last, in the hand in question I haven't had information about either of the CO, BU or BB being weak. If I thought BU and/or BB would be weaker players then I would have a calling range.

I play on MPN anonymous tables.

The problem is that opponents will often leave when they get to deeper sizes and/or they get to showdown with some big bluff where you can get a valuable note on them. So, situations like the one above usually won't happen more than once with one individual opponent making such notes quite useless.

I did fold in the hand. However, on NL100 I've started to notice some good thinking opponents who will put you in tough spots and thus I posted this hand, since "folding because people underbluff" by default might be costing me money. And I wonder if I'm making a potential mistake by folding here too much.

That looks to be about 15% of hands which seems really wide to me in a squeeze spot. You're going to have to defend a wide range versus 4 bets squeezing that wide. Also, do you still squeeze that wide at 200bb effective as you are in this hand?

I'd personally be squeezing a far more polarized range in this situation.

I tend to squeeze the same range as I would resteal vs CO and usually would 3b the same range 200bb deep as I would 100bb deep. Probably in this exact spot I will have more like 12% 3b, folding some KQo, AJo, SC and lower PP combos, still, not too tight.

If you would 3b polarized range, does that mean you have an overcalling range in this spot preflop? I think without having a calling range I should be going a bit wider with my 3bets/squeezes.

I would bet about $25 on the flop. It's enough to stack villain by the river on good board run out and it gives you more manoeuvrability if board goes bad.

Alternatively, you could just potsize flop and make it a 2 street hand. In that case, you probably want to shove turn yourself on pretty much any turn card.

My line would be to c/c turn and c/f river.

Against a rec I would prefer to check flop for SD value and call one street with AK unimproved. I expect most recs to bet once with air and give up and also to play rather passively in general.

As played, turn and river seem fine to me.

How wide are you squeezing here?

55+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AJo+, KQo

I believe this should be around my range considering I 3b or fold preflop. But sometimes I will tighten up depending on table dynamics folding out KQo, 87s-T9s and 55-77.

Would you recommend a different range?

I'm folding turn expecting him to have TPTK+ and making a note of his line. If he does it again in a similar spot, I will look him up.

From my experiences recreational players don't like to bluff off light when fully stacked therefore he could easily play his strong hands this way for protection. Also overbets in general are value heavy by default on low stakes.

You will sometimes see a desperate turn shove with AK by a player who doesn't know exactly what he's doing, but for that you'd need some notes on him first. To make this turn call you need info that he's a maniac/spewy type of rec player.