brainer
24 points
Good point. It's worth adding that in this specific situation I was almost closing the action as the loose rec never limp re-raises ( he raises all of his good hands and limp calls all but the worst 20% or so); so I was basically guaranteed to see the flop 3-way.
Jan. 27, 2022 | 8:10 a.m.
Stakes are around $1.5 $3 ( different currency). 9 Handed, most players 300 BB deep ( as am I in this hand) with all relevant villains being at this stack depth.
I'm in BB with 6s7d9s9d.
Loose rec ( loose pre and on the flop, tight weak on turn and river if deep) limps MP, good pro ( tight solid pre--capable of bluffing post) is on the BTN and raises to 5BB
Folded to me in BB: I call, loose rec calls.
Flop KT8 with two diamonds and one club.
Check to button who bets 15BB
We both call.
Turn 9 clubs
Check to BTN who bets 60BB. I call, other player folds
River 4 of clubs. I check, BTN checks back.
Jan. 26, 2022 | 10:44 a.m.
Really excellent video, Paul. I especially like the way you figure out the general "rules of thumb" for each situation and summarise it in a summary slide. Really helps recall in real-time when you can simplify to the rules you suggest. So I would love to see more of these; e.g. response to squeeze or squeeze opportunities, for example. Also, if possible, it would be great to be able to download a pdf with the summary slides, as a supplement.
Thanks again!
Jan. 18, 2022 | 3:55 p.m.
For pref-flop: Is there a way of seeing the EV in BB of different opening hands from each postiion (rather than just Yes/No?). I think this would help to understand which spots are borderline.
Jan. 12, 2022 | 4:22 p.m.
I play in a live game where, once per orbit, everyone has to put in 5bb and then immediately gets dealt 4 cards and sees the flop with no further pre-flop action.
On the flop, you can either muck or put in 45bb ( no raises allowed), and there is no turn or river action.
So in other words, this game is basically a 9 way flop situation where everyone has an SPR of 1, and you can either go all-in or fold.
In theory, the BTN can get a walk without putting any money in--never really happens.
Any tips or material on this situation?
Examples of particular trouble spots usually are:
1) undertrips (e.g. Tx no overs, no pair, on KTT) which I
2) Non-nut combo draws, where you are likely to b dominated in multiple ways
3) The good hands (e.g. middle set) on very wet boards
In all these cases, I am guessing there is a positional threshold for calling and I also think that "getting a good price" is given more weight than it should be, unless drawing to the nuts.
Jan. 9, 2022 | 12:04 p.m.
For what it's worth, my intention was to give up rivers if called on the turn, as I had a specific read on the villain that he XR's dry flops and then gives up if called.
If I had been called on the turn I would definitely not have considered a bluff on a diamond river, as I don't see what he would be folding.
Even if checked to on a blank river, I think I'd have given up, as I would have thought it is still too likely he's trapping.
Dec. 28, 2021 | 3:15 p.m.
Same for me
Dec. 26, 2021 | 10:45 a.m.
Apologies for the re-post; just noticed that I posted on an old thread.
I'd like a PLO series that could be called "Deviants" focussing specifically on the most important spots where human players deviate from GTO. Phil Galfond often touches on this, and it would be great to delve into this with more detail, so we can better grasp the spots where we may be misapplying solver-based knowledge. As a predominantly live player, this is very important to me. On that note, I would also like more material on multiway pots.
Dec. 25, 2021 | 11:58 p.m.
Disclaimer: not a pro—just giving my opinion.
As a live player I would definitely call preflop against my standard live line-up, but recognizing that it’s for the purpose of flush over flushing someone in a big pot with the added bonus of having the pair.
Specific reads on the CO are critical , of course.
On the flop I would just call the CO bet. If a lot of money goes in it’s a slightly ahead / flip , way behind situation. Plus you have position .
If the cutoff wouldn’t overplay bottom set then it’s just too likely you’re against a higher set and a big draw.
As played: vs the way most of the regs in my game play , I would sigh fold to the shove ( though with specific reads vs the maniacs / over players , there are instances I would call ).
Dec. 24, 2021 | 1:58 p.m.
I'd like a PLO series that could be called "Deviants" focussing specifically on the most important spots where human players deviate from GTO. Phil Galfond often touches on this, and it would be great to delve into this with more detail, so we can better grasp the spots where we may be misapplying solver-based knowledge. As a predominantly live player, this is very important to me. On that note, I would also like more material on multiway pots.
Dec. 24, 2021 | 10:41 a.m.
Thanks; makes sense. My thinking was that I was mainly repping the set on the flop and thought I was likely up against a flush of some kind, so figured I needed to bluff. But didn't think about the SD value nor the possibility of repping the turn slowplay and raising river if bet into--which seems much better.
Dec. 11, 2021 | 5:52 p.m.
It was Paul Toda in this video:
https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/paul-toda-brolin-ep-2/
Dec. 8, 2021 | 8:20 p.m.
I recently saw a video where either Emty or Paul Toda pasted the Monker solver range into vision and then were able to practice PF ranges.
Dec. 8, 2021 | 4:33 p.m.
The villain is a tight reg. No specific reads other than 4 tabling rush PLO and usually has around 20 VPIP. No information as to whether he tends to flat AA OOP.
My gut was telling me that in theory, I should be 3-bet shoving the turn, with this being one of the best candidates. But in practice, I don't see anyone XR fold here; nor could I figure out what XR-folds or bluffs he could have.
Dec. 8, 2021 | 12:35 p.m.
Can anyone point me to any material that could help with this type of tournament?
It is PL pre-flop, NL post.
Thanks in advance
Oct. 24, 2021 | 1:29 p.m.
Thanks Mikey and Cory. Will check out Zach's stuff and look forward to Cory's video.
May 1, 2021 | 5:49 p.m.
I am an Elite subscriber because I find the material very important and instructive in short-handed environments.
Many of the games I am playing at the moment are live, and very splashy--often with 4-5 people seeing a flop in a 3b pot, even more in SR or limp pot.
Is there any material on RIO for this sort of situation?
Thanks in advance.
April 28, 2021 | 6:30 p.m.
thanks boutthreefiddy !
The main issue I am struggling with is this: why is the money you gain from bluffing in these spots not offset by the amount of value you miss-out on when you have a value hand?"
After thinking about this some more, it seems to me ( and I may be wrong) that we are ignoring any extra money (over the size of the existing pot) won by bet itself ( we are supposed to make villain indifferent), so betting boards that are good for us is more about taking the pot down than getting additional value. Is this correct?
April 29, 2020 | 10:51 a.m.
thanks all!
April 29, 2020 | 10:42 a.m.
I agree that we should lead the turn and then choose the K diamond blockers that also have pairs ( to block sets) to balance.
April 28, 2020 | 12:36 p.m.
What I do think I understand:
1) This is GTO and ignoring exploits from reads .
2) When you don't have the strong portion of your range, it tells you when you can convincingly " rep" a hand.
What I do not understand
1) Why should you bet larger with all your actual holdings? In other words, why is the money you gain from bluffing in these spots not offset by the amount of value you miss-out on when you have a value hand?
2) Why should you consider leading on flops that are good for you--same considerations as last question)?
Thanks for any help on this!
April 28, 2020 | noon
I have heard this concept countless times both in relation to NLHE and PLO.
What I do think I understand:
1) This is GTO and ignoring exploits from reads .
2) When you don't have the strong portion of your range, it tells you when you can convincingly " rep" a hand.
What I do not understand
1) Why should you bet larger with all your actual holdings? In other words, why is the money you gain from bluffing in these spots not offset by the amount of value you miss-out on when you have a value hand?
2) Why should you consider leading on flops that are good for you--same considerations as last question)?
Thanks for any help on this!
More of these please !
May 15, 2022 | 2:51 p.m.