blindhippo
13 points
x/f river. flop play is too thin. turn bet becomes very tricky because of it and seems even too thin to barrel. overplaying the hand
July 27, 2014 | 1:38 p.m.
It seems pretty dependent on how villain as constructed his x/c range. If he has done it so that on this river he still has all boats and strong hands i think AQ is pretty thin and agree 60 or so would be good.
As for your range we have more flushes then villains range i think and all nut hands as well so we dont need to bet call this hand.
The only hands i can see bluffing this river and it being okay would maybe be 67s, which is only two combos but blocks full houses and puts a ton of pressure on some of your middle flushes. Hard to come up w/ more bluff combos, prob weighted more to value then anything.
Im not sure what to do here if we had 5x, seems like a real gross spot
May 14, 2014 | 6:42 p.m.
Lefort has a good vid on this i think
i constructed my defending range by constructing a total range that i can defend profitably vs a typical btn range. I then took out the top portion of my value range to 3b and added enough of the bottom parts of my range also to 3b to balance that out. (making sure to have hands that cover most boards etc.)
I dont think someone can give you the proper frequency, its up to you to decide what parts of your range work best as a 3b and what parts work better as a flat/ fold.
I then just adjust for different villains (opening range, fold to resteal, 4b range, 3b calling range)
vs different btn raise sizes i dont think it matters that much
May 13, 2014 | 12:41 p.m.
raise smaller and jam turn.
March 26, 2014 | 2:09 p.m.
looks fine, well played
March 18, 2014 | 12:23 p.m.
well... if you checked the flop to induce bluffs, you got it. so call.
flop check is not good. bet flop, turn, riv
March 14, 2014 | 9:26 a.m.
vs a reg betting is always fine since you will be bluffing this flop a lot.
Checking flop to induce bluffs/ rep QQ/JJ etc seems like a good play. Betting 1/3 pot sets off warning bells to me at least and think its the worst of all options.
March 14, 2014 | 9:23 a.m.
if youre 3b'ing K6s, youre 3b'ing much too wide.
Flop is a call. Keep his bluffs in, his worse flush draws and draw vs a Q or a badly played A.
March 14, 2014 | 9:20 a.m.
that turn is great for your range, bet, bet
as played river is prob a fold, no one bluffs this
March 14, 2014 | 9:17 a.m.
I bet flop here often but it is very close. Vs the raise I think fold is probably best. Half the deck on the turn we can't continue on. If we are continuing I think 3b flop is better then calling.
Would like to have a better read on villains flop raising range... Vs a lot of players putting any more money in Vs the raise is getting it in very bad.
March 10, 2014 | 1:45 p.m.
call pre, vs his somewhat tight opening range and low fold to 3b youre 3beting to wide.
i think the turn is good and now im just check folding.
soooo pretty much what upupandaway said.
March 6, 2014 | 5:45 p.m.
x/r is bad, villains never folding a boat or a flush 100bb deep
I would bet/fold around half pot (maybe even less) targeting the weaker parts of his range (10x, Kx floats that have a club to call turn) Not betting big because of how many stronger hands we have in our range but i still think its a vbet. Blocking the Ac is pretty relevant too
March 5, 2014 | 1:50 p.m.
x/f.... Villain river range is much stronger then yours and we don't block any of the draws that call turn. I think it goes x/x and we win some but betting seems too thin.
Feb. 24, 2014 | 2:11 p.m.
ops i didnt see riv was club as well. still dont like bluffing
Feb. 18, 2014 | 4:03 p.m.
i dont see him folding any club and we beat some hands (not at the bottom of our range) so i dont like bluffing this hand
Feb. 18, 2014 | 1:40 p.m.
lot of cards kill action on this river, jam turn. bet turn bigger. Once he checks river i want to bet small but its prob too light.... but i want to haha
Feb. 18, 2014 | 1:36 p.m.
3b pre, call turn. you have showdown value and lots of outs, keep your range as wide as possible
Feb. 13, 2014 | 12:14 a.m.
janda for sure
Feb. 6, 2014 | 4:43 p.m.
i think you played it fine and probebly best
Feb. 6, 2014 | 1:06 p.m.
raise flop, if you had the Ac i dont mind flatting. His preflop range is strong and a lot of turns kill action, get in some money now
Feb. 6, 2014 | 1:03 p.m.
I 5b this more then not (either small or just all in, depending on your gameplan). its btn vs sb...
calling turn, I think its close but Im not ready to fold QQ on two flush board. I dont think we get bluffed on rivers very often either when we call.
Feb. 6, 2014 | 1:02 p.m.
call river, rest is fine
Feb. 6, 2014 | 12:56 p.m.
raoul,
lets give him range for calling 22
all sets, straights, 2x K10s combos and some flush combos (doesnt have to be many) maybe AA and maaaaaaaaybe AK but i think this range is being way to generous...
his range for calling a bigger bet (35-45)
all sets, straights, 2x K10s combos (most of time), and some flushes
pretty inelastic looking to me, the smaller bet gets called by speculative hands that in all honestly have no business calling ever anyways.
to be fair i think all your theory is good and i agree mostly, i just think your range for villain getting to the river and then calling any bet is way to wide.
this is definately exploitable but i dont think players are folding enough on this river vs any bet size (my experience at this limit)
-good discussion though
Jan. 28, 2014 | 7:04 p.m.
if villain is only calling or folding and has all sets, straights, two pairs and AA in his range why would you bet small? We arent blocking any pair combos and if hes folding all one pair or worse hands and calling all better, why would you not bet big?
i dont see there being enough value in squeezing out crying calls from a weak K or 10 over getting in a big bet vs a hand that is calling often.
i dont think this is gto and i do think its exploitable as we do not have that many bluffs in our range (which makes betting smaller better), but i do think it gets called enough to make it worth it
Jan. 27, 2014 | 7:04 p.m.
bet turn, call riv, vs an unknown and rec looking player get some value on this turn.
Jan. 27, 2014 | 4:59 p.m.
call turn, bet river big. vs a bluff catcher range you want to maximize. hard to see villain turn a pair into a bluff or x/r something hes giving up on
YES!
Oct. 17, 2015 | 2:21 p.m.