blaschenfier

isn't unblocking 88-TT bad for us? aren't those exactly the type of hands that we want to fold out in a bet T, bet R strategy?

i thin i would put in a raise, SB should really only have one combo A5s which beats us. his stack is not full, so he might call a raise with a random Ax. would also not suspect MP having AA/KK a lot.

why is our range not strong? the board strongly favours us. we have way more straightcombos and setcombos

what bluff combos do you think he might have?

if the pot were HU i agree, that we either shove or x/c and hope that he spews it off. basically, that we are not folding. but 3way i think i just give up tbh.

i like the idea of raising turn in general, but I am hesitating right now whether we have any fold equity? i can not really come up with hands that second barrel turn but would fold to our raise...
therefore, i like the call more.

against a competent villain i would prefer checking back the turn, but the more offsuite queens with a spade you think he defends pre, and the more pockets with a spade he calls, the better the turn bet gets. if you decide to bet, i would certainly bet bigger though.

flop is not HU

i would like a check on the turn. generally speaking, the third suit usually is better for the caller and not the agressor, which is why we should do a fair bit of checking. this combo lends itself very good, because we don't have to worry giving KhJx, KhQx, AxQh and so on a free card. i'd rather continue betting our KK combos without the heart.

ps: the preflop size is criminal

for me this line looks like the nutflush (against which we have 20%) and some overpairs with a spade (against which we have 60%). i would never expect overpairs without a spade to take such a line. but i guess we will never know for sure

agree to everything on the above :)

if we are not playing against nitregs, then I would say yes

i might be wrong, but 180bb deep I would not feel super confident getting it in on the flop and like the call of the x/r.
100bb i am way more inclined to get it in on the flop.

nh, even though i squeeze a bit higher

i think i jam turn happily.
as played I probably fold river, on this runout he should slow down with his JTs, QTs, KTs, JJ type of hands and gets more valueheavy. bluffs he has few to begin with

my impression is that rec's rather call down too loose, because they are emotionally connected with their hand, than bluff random vs weakness. of course you also have those rec's, but not on average I guess

as played NH, but against rec there is no reason not to bet/bet/bet imo. you also don't need to worry about balancing or protecting checking ranges vs rec.

i think vs rec i prefer to shove turn myself. you will still see calls from 88-JJ and I see suited broadways more often checking behind than semi-bluff jamming from recs.

i find EP is the position where the play of regs differs the most. while some openraise and 4bet ultra tight, others are quite spazzy. it is not uncommon to see only flats with lets say AK in those position from EPs point of view.
if it is one of those tight players I even prefer to flat preflop only. if you don't want to have a quite face up flatting range (which you can still have at z25 imo), I also don't absolutely hate 3b/f with JJ, even though in most positions it is a no-no.
what helps in those kinds of spots is to observe the biggest hands replayer, for example while you do content. when you are finished with the content, you click throught the hands via the replayer and see how the regs play on your limit.
if you see someone only openraise/calling with a hand like QQ/AK or when you see someone 4bet bluffing EP vs X, make a note and then you have more information on how to play those spots later.

squeeze should be fine, even though it would be bottom end for me.
but if you squeeze it has to be way larger, 4x is my size if there are no coldcallers.
as played, I don't cbet the flop. multiway you want to bet strong draws and your valuehands. with TT we can't bluff on any outrun and have very limited chances to improve -> I would check

i agree that this line is soooo valueheavy on the micros. once he pots it, i think it is a clear fold.

nh imo :)

i don't like the bluff tbh.
for me his range is pretty much Ax and give up busted FDs. the Ax are not often gonna fold and against the FDs we are ahead anyway. i just don't see him delayed cbetting many Qx hands.

yeah, i don't really find a reason why call would be > than jam OTT.
as played i guess we have to close our eyes and call river, once in a bluemoon he is vbetting worse like AJ/A9o and sometimes just random spazzing.

this is quite eye-opening, thanks a ton!
but snowie doesn't give you the 3bet range, which this is based on, right?

don't want too many discussions at once, but now i am confused why some people consider not defending the 3bet (whether by call or 4bet). when we or something like 15%, aren't we folding way too much if we fold AQo?

agreed, the only thing I wan to add is that the J is actually a really bad blocker, because QJ/JJ type of hands are the ones we want to fold out.
i just don't think, that we need to worry about balancing in this spot. I can't really see a NL10 reg thinking on the turn "he does not really have a bluffing range here, so I am going to make a tight fold", when we raise our flushes etc.

preflop you can go either way. what I try to implement right now is to use AQo as a 4b bluff OOP do deny equity against bluff 3bets and take down the pot preflop, EP vs CO f.e. IP i favour flatting the 3bet more, but I might be wrong.

postflop completely fine imo, though I would size up flop a little bit, maybe like 8$