benfiquista
8 points
Ye that's true that this flop is drawy, but not the flop which is more c/raised (9Tx w FD are far more c/raised)
So cbet here could be good here, as value/protection vs BB who can call loose, and make fold equity vs SB which will fold lots of hands I'm happy to make him (medium hands or bare ovp etc... that wouldn't continue here oop vs 2 players)
still don't know about the check back or cbet, but both have merits.
SB tight reg not making tricky things, so i don't see him betting here with pure bluffs or only draw (NFD without pair, 478x/789x without FD etc..), especially vs 2 players and BB can be doing and having anything
But his range is not nuts too. He can have ovp+FD (KKxx + FD, AAxx + FD... as i said he's playing very tight oop, and a good part of his AAxx would be flatted preflop here).
He could have all Qxxx too
But i don't see many Q6xx/Q5xx in his defending range pre (even if he could have things like AQK5 double suited etc...). 55xx/66xx are unlikely too, and he could fold here vs a raise from me
And SB can have anything (FD, oesd, gs+fd etc...).
My raise is for value/protection/fold equity and everything lol.
this board is so drawy that most rivers are changing the structure of the board, and i don't want to let the two players get it free. Especially BB
I think I'm often ahead here, and have good equity vs hands that would be ahead, especially Qxxx no full (Qxxx w 3 OC without FD).
Maybe some FE vs this, and vs 55xx/66xx, which wouldn't have a simple decision here (and against which I have decent equity too)
"To be brutally honest I go for pot control in these situations way too often. I think its a leak but I've raised/been shipped on/am behind/have to call too many times"
I have the exact opposite leak lol.
In average situations like this, pushing a little too much with speculative outs
Jan. 12, 2019 | 4:36 p.m.
PLO100 - 4 players
UTG - 150bb
BU - Hero - 120bb
SB - 150bb
BB - 130bb
Hero Qc 9c Ts 3s
fold, Hero raises to 3.5bb, call, call
Flop (11.5bb) Qs 5s 6d
check, check, check
Turn (11.5bb) Qs 5s 6d Qh
SB bets 5bb, BU calls, Hero raises pot
UTG and SB decent tight regs.
BB big fish
Preflop is a std opr BU with a double suited hand with some connection i guess
Flop
not bad with TP w 2OC + FD T high
Board quite drawy, would need value/protection, but board where i'm going to be c/raised quite often and i wouldn't like it.
SB not supposed to have hit this flop that often, as it's quite low, and I'm blocking a Q and having a FD too
And SB can have any four almost, and can make bad calls oop here (gs, any fd etc...)
So maybe in this case cbetting is correct.
But with medium hand on that drawy flop and multiway, check back seems me better
Turn
Hitting trips, and SB dking 40% pot here.
This board is quite drawy, i ve got some made hand quite weak (if anyone has a Qxxx here, it's high probable that it's better kicker. And my FD is quite low).
SB could be betting some hand for value/protection on this board drawy.
Like ovp (KKxx/AAxx) with or withoud FD/SD (he is quite tight preflop and will often flat those hands oop)
Maybe betting some big combo draws (oesd + nfd, wrap + fd etc...).
But many Qxxx too
BB calls and can have tons of hands here too
Now, I think my raise is not bad but I'm not sure.
It's not likely that SB would have tons of fulls here (Q5xx/Q6xx aren't mass in his defending SB range).
If he got 55xx/66xx (not many in his preflop range too), I still got equity.
If he got AQxx, KQxx, he can play it light against a massive raise from me. c/c if he got 3 overcards and fold river when miss. Or even fold already if AKQ2 or whatever.
And fold his combodraws.
If he gii with 55xx/66xx or AQxx w 3OC, I'm not in a bad shape (except if he got an overFD).
my raise seems me ok but not sure and not sure if sizing are ok (but i don't think my hand is much wider than Qxxx here, so)
Jan. 10, 2019 | 1:10 p.m.
ok thx
what ur betting range half pot here ?
I think NFD and nut blocker are ok. K/Q high flushes seems me good candidates for a catching line or a c/folding line depending on reads
Would you have some pure bluff on your betting range turn, with at least a spade in the hand ?
And thoughts about flop play ?
thx
Jan. 10, 2019 | 12:52 p.m.
PLO100 - 6 players
UTG - 100bb
BU - 150bb
SB - Hero - 100bb
BB - 80bb
Hero As Ac 6s 2c
fold, BU raises to 3.5bb, Hero raises to 11bb, fold,call
Flop (23.5bb) Js 9s 5d
Hero bets 23.5bb, BU calls
Turn (70.5bb) 2s
Hero check, BU check
River (70.5bb) Qd
Hero bets 28bb
BU good reg kinda aggro
Preflop, 3bet seems me std w AAxx ds, even if side cards aren't great and oop
Flop, cbet std w ovp + NFD.
Not sure about the sizing.
SPR is 3.5, and the board is drawy, so pot shouldn't be a big mistake
But I'm not sure I have a cbet pot / fold range here, so maybe I should cbet another sizing.
c/r could make sense, but Villain doesn't stab much on 3bet pot (with or without ini)
So c/r would miss often and I am going to have lots of turn hard to play oop
Turn, bingo card
But I think it's hard to get value here if I 2nd barrel.
check to let him stab or value thin lower flushes
River.
As played turn, maybe i should check this river too.
he could feel strong with his good flush and vbet it, maybe w straights too (but i don't think he would vbet it)
and let him make some bluffs or turn some hand into a bluff.
I choose to bet to value those low flush that would check back, or value a sticking straight on this Q river.
No idea about the sizing
Jan. 7, 2019 | 9:54 p.m.
ye u right, with this SPR and this spot, I should have a more developped sizing strategy and I have more options than push or give up
i like the bsmall/f vs BB and b/decide vs UTG
work to do on sizing in a general way
Nov. 14, 2018 | 3:59 p.m.
PLO100, all 100bb
Hero - BU - AcAd4c5h
UTG raises to 3.5bb, call, Hero raises to 15bb, fold, BB call, UTG call, fold
Flop (50b) 8s 8d Ts
check, check, Hero ? (85bb left)
Classic spot but I never know what to do on those fcking pairy boards and on those spots.
UTG is a fish aggro opraising 100%, and BB reg
3bet std, and flotp I don't know
i'm burning my money to 8xxx.
UTG can have lots of hands.
BB is more tight, better to have a 8xx flop than a JJx flop for sure, but he can have some 8xxx to sometimes (middle rundowns)
In an other way, this flop is very drawy and i need protection too.
But just pushing <10% equity vs those 8xxx.
HU with this SPR would a push ?
3way, just fucking check and give up (except hitting K letter)?
Nov. 13, 2018 | 6:25 p.m.
Preflop, in a standard game with full stacks (100bb) decent players, this would be a clear flat preflop for me.
You have kind of the worst AAxx possible, and are in the worst position.
But here, as you described Villains, and as BB is short stack, I would 3bet this to get action.
Except if you have the read "BB aggro vs opr, but sticky vs 3bets". Here is ok to flat and let BB enjoy his move. But it's a very specific scenario
Flop, with this SPR you can't go anyway but get all in
actually, this is not such a bad flop for your hand (it's rainbow, the connection flop isn't low (69T would be a worse flop for exemple)
Nov. 12, 2018 | 5:05 a.m.
PLO 100 - HU
Hero - BB - 100bb - KsQcTs4c
SB - 100bb
SB raises to 2.5bb, Hero raises to 7.5bb, SB calls
Flop (15bb) 7s 9d Tc
Hero bets 10bb, SB calls
Turn (35bb) 4h
Hero check, SB bets 20bb, call
River (75bb) Qh
Hero check, SB bets 75bb
SB/BU good tight reg
No idea on what I have to do.
Preflop
seems me ok HU, with double-suited hand, 3 broadway. The 4 is disconnected, but the hand seems me good HU
Flop
pffff, TP w 2OC + GS + 2BDFD.
But drawy and straighty board.
Need value/protection and I got good cards, but board connected and drawy, I'm going to get call often and it'll be hard to play oop on most turns/river.
Maybe a conservative c/c would be far better here
Turn
getting a DP, but no getting a FD...
As played flop, I think it's a must 2barrel here, but not sure.
Decide to c/c, but don't know where I'm going and I'm going to dislike all rivers with SPR ~1
But i've some equity with nut GS + low full draw (TT44) and he giving me a decent price
River
completing QJKx (for exemple).
I make DP but I don't see why I'm beating here, i don't think he valueshove a lower DP
Maybe split vs QTxx (if he got JTQx or KQTx like me) but i don't think he shoves it
std fold i guess
Nov. 10, 2018 | 4:54 a.m.
I think I would 3bet here, because UTG is only 80bb deep (SPR lower on 3bet flop), and in my xp, players which doesn't autoreload are generally not good players (and can make spews pre
Moreover, those AAxx are not great but they're not really bad. Rainbow, sure it sucks, but the K is good card, and there is a little connection here (A4, AK... to flop some ovp+GS)
Here I think i 3bet.
But 100bb deep vs 100bb deep, vs an UTG player standard/good, i would have flat too
Postflop seems me ok.
Terrible river if he decides to bluff here lol.
But he can easily valuebet overpairs or AJxx
Nov. 10, 2018 | 4:11 a.m.
PLO100 - 6 players
Anyone have 200+bb
Hero UTG 230bb
BU has 250bb too
Hero AAA3r
Hero raises to 3.5bb, call, call, BU raises to 18bb, fold, fold, Hero raises to 60bb, fold, fold, call
Flop (128bb) 569r
Hero (170bb left) ?
Preflop
Dynamic is very special here
BU is a huge fish, who is on tilt after having running god (+1000bb on the table at a time) and then give it all back to all players.
He's on tilt right now and is 3betting 100%
Other players are chasing.
I see those terrible AAxx.
Hard to make worse AAxx (triple A, rainbow)
I know BU will 3bet all the time and I could play a big pot flop with those AAxx.
But in an other way, other players smell the blood here and want to play against BU too, so it will be hard to get a HU pot here, and my AAA3r play awful multiway.
And another thing, even in raw equity I'm not good here, being a little behind kinds of double suited here.
Maybe it's just an openfold here
Flop
With this SPR, std pot/call I guess, on this flop that looks favorable here (rainbow), even if BU can have any4 here
Nov. 10, 2018 | 4:02 a.m.
PLO 100 - 4 players
All 100bb
Hero BB with J66Qr
CO call, BU call, SB cal, Hero check
Flop (4bb) Qs Qc 5d
check, Hero bets 2bb, CO calls, BU calls, folds
Turn (10bb) : Qs Qc 5d 6s
Hero bets 6bb, CO folds, BU raises to 30bb (68bb left), Hero ?
CO no reads but seems me passive fish
BU good aggro reg
Preflop
std
Flop
don't know what's the move here.
Betting 4way oop on such a dry flop I'm showing my hand... J kicker is not that high.
Not sure about the play, the sizing, so I did this halfpot bet
Turn
sweet.
vs 2 calls on this flop, i wonder which kind of hand could have call flop here.
There must a Qxxx for sure, or 55xx. Sometimes an overpair (KKxx/AAxx, which should have raise preflop) calling for a good price, maybe sometimes (rare) ahead, and big implied odds
So bet here for value/protection vs Qxxx (lots of river can kill me). Giving a price to FDs/Straightdraws in the case someone hit this turn.
When
BU raises here (quite big).
I think at least a Qxxx.
Maybe a big Qxxx (AQxx) that want to protect vs Qxxx + draws that are coming with this turn.
It's unlikely he have Q6xx (one combo left)
I don't see "bluff" here, nether big draws (which kind of draw turn could have call that flop) ?
I'm nut here, but in an other way, a lot of river can kill me (all rivers > 6 except J), and I need protection vs this.
If I'm calling here (for trap), it'll be dangereous on most rivers.
And for him, when I'm calling here, he's not going to bluff rivers (even if i think he's not bluffs).
And with is value hands (Q5xx, 55xx, AQxx), he should be careful in most river too and check back a lot with no-nut river
So, just reraise allin turn and pray that he got 55xx/Q5xx or feel commit with Qxxx w 3OC ?
Nov. 10, 2018 | 3:52 a.m.
PLO100 - 5 players
All have 100bb
Hero is BU 8s9cTsJc
UTG raises to 3.5, CO calls, Hero raises to 14bb, fold, fold, UTG call, CO call
Flop (43bb) 2d 3d 8h
check, check, Hero ? (86bb, SPR ~2)
UTG very tight reg
CO loose fish
Preflop, I could have flat this, as we're already multiway, and UTG is really tight (like 20/10/2) and his opraising UTG range is full of AAxx or big Axxx dominating me (AKQJ etc...)
Flop
erf... low SPR, but 3way, just top pair w oc.
Totally miss the flushes.
UTG should have miss this baby disconnected flop, except some KKxx + FD, or like AKQ4-AKQ5 + FD etc...
CO is quite loose and could touch more often.
It's not likely I'm facing often sets here (22xx, 33xx, and I'm blocking a 8)
SPR~2
If bet for value/protection, just pot/call ?
Nov. 10, 2018 | 3:32 a.m.
every move turn have arguments for it except fold ^^
depends on reads and history you have vs UTG
Preflop ~100bb deep I usually never flat AAxx ip, but i don't say it's a mistake.
And if you have a flatting AAxx range preflop ip, then this AA8s3s is a good candidate as it's a very poor AAxx
Flop
This low dry flop (a little connection, lots of card are turns are making straights in an other way) doesn't smatch very much his UTG opraising range.
It connect a little more your range.
Depends on your reads vs him, but against an aggro/barrelish player I would often call here for induce/value, in plan to call most of turns (and bet sometimes where he check).
He can be cbetting here with complete air (like 4 overcards 9TJQ+like) or value/protection with overpair (QQ+xx). if you raise here he folds all his air obv
Try to let him get his top pair turn and let him value/protect
Raise flop (~10bb i'd say) has arguments too, for value/protection.
not high cards but he allways can have some pair + ovc here (79TJ-like, AKQx ds with x being 2/5/7 etc...), or draws (678x).
Moreover, with some (aggro) history and guessing games, he could be leveling himself a little (he knows that disconnected flop doesn't hit his range, and you could be bluffraising - not totally bluff raising but raising light (TP w over etc...) and call lighter (ovp, 7xxx w OC etc...), maybe calling turn too on blanks and pairing turns
So I'd say
- call vs unread
- raise vs loose (calling/catching) player
- raise vs a player against who you got some aggro history
Oct. 5, 2018 | 5:36 p.m.
PLO200
SB - Hero - 100bb
BB - 100bb
CO - 100bb
BU - 100bb
Hero As Qs Jc Jh
fold, BU raises to 3.5bb, Hero raises to 11bb, fold, BU calls
Flop (2 players, 23bb) : Ac Ad 7c
Hero bets 12bb, BU calls
Turn (2 players, 47bb) : Ac Ad 9c Kh
Hero bets 29bb, BU calls
River (105bb) : 5h
Hero ? (53bb left)
Reggish table
BU good aggro-reg vs who I've history.
A little sticky/catching
Preflop
Not an auto-3bet oop, but my hand is a good hand
3bet doesn't seems me awful, but calling oop with a hand with playabilty ok but not awesome, A suited, good pair (not that big) and make some nut straights seems me ok
Flop
Trips good kicker.
cbet it obv, for value, for protection vs FD, vs Axxx low kicked, for the times I'm not having Axxx but rep it etc...
Not sure about the sizing.
paired locked board when I'm repping strong, I put a ~55% size bet, but maybe too heavy, I could have bet lighter (7-8bb)
When BU calls, he's not that heavy as ip, and vs me in a board I'm cbetting very often, he will try often to catch etc...
Good flush draws, intermediate pairs catching (especially if he gets FD with), all is Axxx obv
Turn
not the best turn of course.
I'm dead (and oop) vs AKxx
He could have some KKxx that bink this turn
But I've still value/protection vs FD (which he would fold often here now), midpair (same, even if he doesn't have much because with my QJJx I'm blocking lot of them. Stay KKxx that is full now)
River
SPR ~0.5
not the scariest river
I'm giving my money vs AKxx
I'm valuing / giving him some headache vs undertrips (even if here, with my AQJJ, I'm blocking lots of trips with big kickers)
I may hope he fold / giving an headache vs A5xx. Not this 5 is the most terrible river. But as he's aggro preflop and he's opraising almost all his Axxx and not fold very much oop vs 3bet, if he has Axxx he would have any cards with it
check/decide doesn't seem me a good option.
check/calling, I think I don't have much value (bluff catch) with check/calling as if he's catching to here with some middle pair, he's not bluffing now.
And he wouldn't bluff with draws (who are very rare here I think).
check/folding seems me not possible with that SPR and that hand
so bet for value lower Axxx
Oct. 2, 2018 | 8:35 p.m.
SB is a player playing some 95/20/5.
Not gambler and love see and play flops.
I mean he can easily call a 3bet with JJ92, A467ss and trash like it to see what happen flop.
But wont gamble a whole stake preflop with trashy hands
Not a profile standard, i confess, but I'm quite confident on my reads on him
Ye problem is BU having connected hands that are automatically dominating me, and wouldn't fold here (I can just except him to fold his Axxx and not good KKxx hands)
In this particulary table dynamic (two very passive players, and SB being spotted by others which will play more hands to stack him), the best would be openfold my hand, as it look sexy but very low and ultradominated.
And on a table we're allways playing multiway and my hand just playing very bad and with awful reversed odds on multiway spots
Sept. 17, 2018 | 6:30 p.m.
i play with ~1000 buyin of my stakes, so i'm not that we can call "scared money" lol
Call ip can makes sense in some situations with gamblers, or in an other way if i can expect a call from SB.
But here my two opponents would play quite tight in this situation
SB some passive fish (preflop play some 65/12/3, entering games with 50bb generally), and he's almost never dking in this situation (deep, oop vs 2 players)
and HJ tight reg (24/18/5) being even more tight postflop.
I suspect both to be ultrastrong here, and my call being raised and gii by the two players, and i would be commit
just put 3.5bb here. If i gii, I think i make fold one opponent maximum (if the two calls it would be better with my NFD ofc)
And I'm putting ~147bb for a ~325bb pot (between 340bb if SB gii and HJ folds, and 310bb if SB fold and HJ gii).
So needing ~45% equity HU, which I wouldn't have here (playing mostly vs sets, and some DP+draw. And one of the player would have probably fold a hand cutting me some outs)
If it gii 3way, need 147/451 = ~32% equity. Which would be ok vs two sets but not enough vs set vs combo draw
Sept. 17, 2018 | 6:24 p.m.
PLO100 - 3 players
BU - 60bb
SB - 100bb
BB - Hero - 100bb
Hero Ac Ad 6s Jd
Preflop : fold, SB raises to 3bb, Hero raises to 9bb, calls
Flop (2 players, 18bb) : Ah 4h 9d
check, Hero bets 11bb, calls
Turn (2 players, 40bb) : Ah 4h 9d Js
check, Hero bets ???
BU fish
SB tight reg
Preflop
std
SB tight reg but don't know why he opr tons bvb vs me
3bet standard here with AAxx ss
Flop
Good flop.
Top set, disconnected flop (not affraid of wheel wraps here), but this FD heart.
Don't want to bet too loud. Give him prices to call at least one street with Axxx, and hit DP later.
Turn
Still nutty on this board, but it's turning quite drawy now.
I need value/protection, and SPR is turning quite low (SPR ~2)
Just pot it ? With the SPR and the drawiness of the board, it doesn't seem me a mistake.
In an other way, I'm never bluffing here when I pot, and on this spot maybe I need a range of bluff (I'm ip, I can try to rep AAxx if I have some 5678-like that missed, and I have some FE turn and place to put the 3rd barrel bluff river if needed)
And how would you play turn with a medium hand (like bare DP A4xx or A9xx) ? line, sizing ?
And with a good straight draw ? wrap ? pot it too
Sept. 17, 2018 | 1:08 a.m.
PLO100 - 6 players
HJ - 150bb
BU - Hero - 150bb
SB - 150bb
BB - 100bb
Hero As Tc 7s 2c
fold, HJ raises to 3.5bb, fold, Hero calls, SB calls, fold
Flop (3 players, 11.5bb) 3s 8d Js
SB bets 8.5bb, HJ raises to 35bb, Hero ?
HJ some decent tight reg (a little weak, bumhunt and doesn't play a lot vs me)
SB some passive fish, able of tricky moves ip, doesn't gamble
Preflop
Not such a great call preflop.
Double-suited and an A, but quite disconnected and low cards except A
But this A suited, SB and BB being quite bad players playing too much hands.
And HJ decent player, but quite weak postflop, avoid to play vs me and HU ip I think I can't outplay him quite often.
Flop
Good flop, with no-nut GS + NFD, ip vs 2 players.
But now both are giving action on this dynamic flop.
SB, oop almost never dkbet, especially vs 2 players. Strong range here
and HJ, tight reg and 150bb deep (and with me to be playing after him) has a very strong range here, moreover vs SB who he knows that he is passive.
Back to me.
I think my no-nut GS is too often dead here (wraps 9Txx are often here).
The NFD is good ip multiway here.
The problem is that both of Villains are showing strong ranges here.
If I call, I believe that very often it will turn in a reraise from SB etc... and 3way allin (maybe HJ would fold a middle/bottom set here if SB reraises)
We're playing 150bb and I only put 3.5bb in this pot.
Not happy to put 147bb here.
Dream scenario would be allin 3way and playing vs two sets (I'm ~37% equity)
But on this board, I think if it goes all in, it will be vs set and a big combodraw (9TQx-like + FD, DP + FD + GS), dominating my GS and cutting two flushy outs (I'm ~25% equity)
Fold seems me weak. But I don't know.
Calling ip and praying for a call from a SB no-gambling with a combo-draw ? And push and pray if action goes allin flop ?
Sept. 17, 2018 | 12:38 a.m.
PLO100 - 6 players
HJ - Hero - 100bb
CO - 70BB
BU - 150BB
SB - 150BB
BB - 100BB
Hero : 3457ds
folds, Hero raises to 3.5bb, CO calls, BU raises to 14bb, SB calls, BB folds, Hero raises pot...
CO some passive weak fish
BU good aggro reg
SB ultrapassive whale
The table is very sticky.
SB being a fish vpip preflop almost everything (vpip ~95%)
I have a good-looking hand, but on this dynamic table, not so sexy as it looks.
I opr it, called by CO, and BU squeeze.
BU range is strong, but he's a very aggro reg, high %3bet preflop (~11% overall), especially against me. we have some history.
SB calls as always.
Then back to me.
If I call, CO would call often, and we're going to play 3way or 4way more often.
I really don't want to play flop this hand against 3 players with a SPR of 1.xx, as I would be dominated so many times
I decided to 4bet for some reasons :
- CO will often fold (cs preflop but not gambling)
- BU has a strong range, but not allways AAxx. I saw him 3bet/fold quite often. I think he will fold most of is Axxx (non AAxx obv) and KKxx. Moreover he's 150bb vs SB.
If he has AAxx, my hand is quite ok vs him (40-50%). Let's hope he doesn't have some 6789-ish
- SB wants to see and play flop (he calls any raise and lots of 3bets with really trash), but won't put 80bb here with trash.
Does my play look ok ?
Sept. 17, 2018 | 12:12 a.m.
ye you understand what I was saying
thx for your answer. It's logical and explained this well.
even if this doesn't fix my problem of making monkey calls river ^^
thanks
Aug. 23, 2018 | 4:38 p.m.
Hi
I play mostly PLO50/PLO100/PLO200
I was looking at some stats on my PT4, and i filtred on River opportunities - River calls.
Lifetime, I am loosing ~80bb/100 on those spots (on ~23K opportunites of calling river)
It shocked me. It's a stat indicating a major leak isn't it ?
I confess that I'm too often fuckcalling river in dirty spots, like i got a monster all way long but see terrible river completing lots of draws, but with low SPR (~0.3, 0.4), i almost never success to fold even if I'm beaten like 90+% of the time.
I confess that, these last weeks/months, I used to be maybe leveling myself and got too sticky on the river, searching apologizes to make stupid calls river (and that's why i looked at this stat)
but -80bb/100 on those spot seems me absolutely terrible.
What are your results on this stat ?
I guess I should be AT MINIMUM breakeven on this stat ?
Other stats river that maybe could be relevant here.
WTSD : ~26, W$SD : ~50, River call efficiency : 1.85
Thoughts about this ?
Aug. 22, 2018 | 8:12 p.m.
SB - Hero - 150bb
BB - 150bb
Hero Qc Td 9h 6c
Hero raises to 3.5bb, BB raises to 9bb, Hero calls
Flop (18bb) 3s 4s Tc
check, check
Turn (18bb) 3s 4s Tc 9d
check, Hero bets 14bb, BB raises to 60bb, Hero raises allin
Villain is a decent reg, tight most of the times but versatile, and sometimes goes on much more aggro style for a period
At this moment he was 3betting a bit higher than usual
Preflop
std i guess
Flop
Well, he uses to cbet a lot (except very specific boards), and with à 60% pot sizing
This flop doesn't hit his range, but it's a flop low and not that drawy, and he use to cbet often here
When in check on such a flop, I'm waiting him to try a c/r here
Anyway, I don't have such a good hand to bet it and make him pression (TP w 3OC + BDFD) and check would be std even in vacuum I would say
Turn
He checks again, DP max now, let's bet for value/protection on such an heavy drawy board
When he c/r.
Well got DP max here with a board non-straigthy, non-flushy
But the SPR is quite high (>10 before I bet)
Could have some sets sometimes : TTxx connected (TTJQ, 9TTJ), some pp+pp that made sets etc. But i'm holding 9Txx, and so 99xx/TTxx are fewer in his ranger
Could have massive draws too (KQJx+FD), or some hands which were trapping on the flop (KKxx/AAxx + FD) and still can be c/r here for value (putting me on a draw on this turn, and still having big equity vs DP etc...)
Reraise shove this turn seems me logical, but the SPR is high.
Calling ip could make sense, but I'm not waiting many card, he can complete so often his draws, and if he bluffs on brick it'll be difficult to be
The good thing would be that he would shove on my outs (9/T)
May 9, 2018 | 5:45 p.m.
PLO100
UTG - 100bb
MP - 400bb
CO - 300bb
BU - 65bb
SB - 200bb
BB - Hero - 220BB
Hero Ks Kc Qs Qd
Preflop
fold, fold, call 1bb, calls, calls, Hero raises to 5bb, call, call, call
Flop (20bb, 4 players) Ad Kd 8d
check, Hero bets 8bb, CO raises to 35bb, fold, fold, Hero raises to 110bb
BU passive fish, SB tilting/gambling fish, CO tricky reg
Preflop
Std I guess
Flop
middle set + nut blocker.
Bet 40% on this flushy flop.
Thing I would do with nut flush, good flush (2nd) (maybe not betting 4way) and sets.
good for balancing i think, and i give me "a good price" to chase my full outs
I think I'm going to 3barrel most times (except on A maybe). maybe not the best plans with SB especially, and BTN too, who are bad/passive players who can too often nobrainer calldown with any flush
Now CO is potraising me
I am surprised here.
I can't see with what he's raising here.
Totally bluff 4way vs cbet seems me sick
A raise with a low flush (and this heavy sizing) seems me weird too, with another player behind and 3 others players on the pot. Maybe some "raise for value/information" xD
Or maybe some AKxx + random flush (call would be better i think)
He doesnt have nut blocker since I got it.
I can't eliminate AAxx in his range.
I saw him many times coldcall AAxx preflop, even ip and even with AAxx not awful.
Moreover, SB is tilting, opraising/3betting everything and CO could be trapping here
... now I have this nut blocker + 2nd set.
Calling oop would be difficult to play for the suit (even if i think i would play this way with nut flush).
Moreover, turn A and even pairing turns (except K) are not "safe" for me.
Could c/c flop and c/r turn on blanks when/if he 2barrel, to make him fold low flushs. Problem is that if he 2barrel with AAxx, he would feel commit and Im fucked
So I just 3bet shove it, to make him fold low flush (Having good equity if he decides to call) and make him fold AAxx too, which would be almost sure to bet against (nut)flush here and doesn't really have equity enough to call
May 9, 2018 | 5:13 p.m.
PLO 200 (5 players)
UTG - Hero - 400bb
CO - 150bb
BU - 500bb
SB - 750bb
BB - 100bb
Hero Tc Qd 8d Tc
Hero raises 3.5bb, fold, fold, SB raises to 12bb, BB calls, Hero calls
Flop (36bb, 3 players) 9c Js 3d
SB bets 30bb, fold, Hero calls
Turn (96bb, 2 players) 9c Js 3d 4s
SB bets 75bb, Hero calls
River (246bb, 2 players) 9c Js 3d 4s 8h
SB check, Hero ?
CO good reg, BTN passive regfish, SB tight reg sometimes playing weird/tricky, BB aggro-fish
Preflop
Decent hand
Maybe opr quite loose UTG that deep and on a table with 2 loose players playing lots of pot, and big stacks.
Vs the 3bet, not sure about the call.
Not the hand we are very happy to play 3way with big stacks (no nutiness, big reversed), but good hand in vacuum and I have position
I mean, 100bb deep it would be standard, but in this spot I'm not sure
Flop
Wrap 17/11 + 2BDFD
Not bad.
Maybe could raise/broke that flop
But don't think SB has just bare ovp here (AAxx etc...).
Maybe some AAxx + GS/oesd (AATQ, AA8T, AAKQ), p w oc + gs/oesd (AKQJ, ATQJ etc...), DP + GS/oesd etc... (9TJQ), wraps (QKTx)
But getting myself TTxx, it block a lots of combos and decrease the Txxx / straightdrawing hands he could have
Some sets are possible too (99TT, TTJJ, JJQQ, AApp/KKpp that made some set)
Raise/broke could make him fold some too light hand (TP/OVP + GS for exemple), but he's going to call with sets (not a big problem since i have big equity against it) and some and that are dominating me or splitting with some of my outs (like p+oesd, or p+overwraps)
So just call ip seems me far better, with those 2BDFD in more
Turn
Blank.
not the color I wanted to see
He bets heavy again
Not the better board now (FD i don't have and he can totally have, big straight draw but far for nutty, and very few implied odds when I'll hit them
But I still have equity enough I would say, and position
River
Bingo
I think i've to bet now xD
But now this river is so scary (most scariest river with K) and completes all straight draws (nut oesd, wraps) which are composing mostly my range when I'm calling that flop+utrn, that's hard to value
How much would you bet here ? (~320bb left)
"Standard" sizing bet 60%-70% pot (~160bb) ?
Some small sizing to give him good odds (~70-80bb) ? An extra small vbet to make him fuck call with DP/sets (~30-50bb)
A "suspicious" massive bet like pot, try to make him level himself and make some herocall ?
May 9, 2018 | 4:44 p.m.
yes they say they're working on it
thx
April 13, 2018 | 5:30 p.m.
hello
hand played on ipoker
saw that with RIO support (sending the original HH) but it seems there's a problem of compatibility
I edited the hand a little to try to make it more easy to read. not sure it worked well :)
Is there no way to put "manually" the symbol flush of the card in the text ? (heart, spade etc...)
April 13, 2018 | 2:29 a.m.
PLO100
SB: 125 BB (VPIP: 73.29, PFR: 15.44, 3Bet Preflop: 3.34, Hands: 592)
BB: 108.05 BB (VPIP: 40.35, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 9.03, Hands: 9,884)
Hero (CO): 212.51 BB
BTN: 133.18 BB (VPIP: 37.88, PFR: 23.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 4,372)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Preflop
(pot: 1.5 BB)
Hero has Th Td 4d Qh
Hero raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 14.5 BB, Hero calls 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB
Flop
(44 BB, 3 players)
7d Qs 7h
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn
(44 BB, 3 players)
7d Qs 7h 6s
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
River
(44 BB, 3 players)
7d Qs 7h 6s 3d
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 30.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 30.8 BB
Hi
BU and BB two good regs, esp BU.
BB can be more often tilting and overplaying/spew
Preflop
Opr ok from the CO I guess, even if i wouldn't like to play oop vs BU (which can call wide on the BTN)
Vs the 3bet, i think it's a call ip vs 3better, even if my hand is not great playing multiway and BU almost never folding here
Flop
Random TP here, just check it
Turn
played it passive.
The board gets drawy now.
No idea how my QTxx is here.
Not sure BB fold an ovp here (he squeezed oop vs 2 regs, that means strenght imo, even if he could have some high connected cards no pair. He can have AQxx too against which i run terribly and not sure he folds)
BU could call a bet too with draws (numerous here)
River
mmm
This "3" doesn't mean much things
He's not likely to have much 33xx here, or even 45xx.
A 7xxx would have move before, turn at least
I strongly believe that BU thinks i'm out here.
He can try to steal the pot from BB which sometimes is 3betting too loose and can have some A high etc...
I don't think he vbet with some good Qxxx (AQxx, KQxx) for the same reason (BB would often call with AAxx/KKxx, and Qxxx is ahead is AKJT-like)
So BTN could often bluff this spot at good price, good odds thinking I'm out and BB could have juste A high or something
April 11, 2018 | 2:59 p.m.
PLO100
Hero : 102.75 BB
BTN: 148.34 BB (VPIP: 57.44, PFR: 17.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 592)
SB: 325.69 BB (VPIP: 45.95, PFR: 30.29, 3Bet Preflop: 6.33, Hands: 407)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Preflop (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:heart: T:diamond: 5:club: 8:diamond:
BTN raises to 3.5 BB, SB calls 3 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB
Flop (10.5 BB, 3 players) 4:diamond: 7:club: 5:diamond:
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn (10.5 BB, 3 players) T:club:
SB bets 9.35 BB, Hero raises to 38.55 BB, BTN calls 38.55 BB, fold
River: (96.95 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 96.95 BB,
Hi
Sorry for the format, i didn't success to convert properly from PT4
BTN kind of weak reg(fish)
SB ok preflop but make big mistakes postflop i think
Preflop
Got odds in BB but my hand is quite bad, not like my call very much even if it's may not be terrible
Flop
Ovp + GS + FD T high
Board quite wet, my hand hit very things but weak things
Decided to play it passively here, even if dkbet can have sense here (make fold BU fold a big part of his large opraising range, make fold weak overFD, OVP etc...)
Turn
Raise for value here.
Have seen lead turn some times in these spots with some "weak" hands (random DP, FD etc...)
Top set + FD I'm quite big here. Even if he gets nuts, I still got my ~40% equity here (if my FD is clean)
Moreover, this board is very heavy on draws and I'm happy to value/protect vs some wraps w/o FD etc...
River
meh
Got second nut straight here, but this river hits just so much BU range.
I mean, when he call the bet + raise on this board, his range is strong and heavy on draws (he's not only NFD)
I think he's not sets here (since i block top set, and set even don't have directs odds to call here).
And nut straights turns should softplay here, but he would have cbet it flop so i don't give it him
His range is maybe something like :
- DP + (N)FD (which is rare since i block TT)
- nut oesd/wrap + FD (Nut GS + FD, i think he fold because of odds and SB could backfire)
- not sure he would call a "bare" nut wrap on a double FD board, but idk
- double FD (with one NFD)
Now this 6 river complete mosts of straight draws, which are heavily composing his range
April 11, 2018 | 2:38 p.m.
thx guys
"sounds like a classic case of eats like a bird shits like an elephant"
haha, true
"Do you playing longer sessions when you are down or up? This is usually a big indicator off why you have more BIG loosing sessiong then reverse"
ye this
I can have long winning sessions as long loosing sessions.
But sometimes, when sessions are running good but I'm done with my day want to do sthg else (or go sleep or whatever), I easily do it.
But when session is turning into bloodbath (and as i feel my game isn't too much deteriored), I can't leave the tables.
indeed, it's a logical reason for that fact
"Maybe if you have a stoploss then you end up being down more often."
I don't have stoploss because I don't think it's very logical.
I really was a tilting guy in my first years, but worked on it some years ago (thx Jared's books) and improve a lot.
Now I play and don't stop loss if things are going bad, for good logical reasons ("my game is still ok", "tables are juicy", "the fish is on fire and will give back it soon"), some "bad" reasons (can't give up vs those morrons) and some irrational/bullshit thoughts ("luck has too turn", "ok I'm running terrible, I'm just going to eat all the shit now and 'll have my quota for the month" etc...)
I still think that stoploss is a mathematical (as your game is a the same level), but indeed each I was getting in a terrible session, I almost never turn it back (or return to reasonable loosing session).
Maybe it would help.
thx
ye quarter blocking is like i have done (35% pot size here, but the point of view is the same)
we have history, and ye he saw me barrel nut blocker here.
I would say that barrellingdown with nut blocker is more or less my standard
It's definitively an argument for 3barreling here
In an other way, here this is a 3bet pot, and the flop is quite drawy, with SPR ~4
I mean I'm not potting this flop (very not sure about the sizing btw, in a balancing point of view it seems me quite bad as I'm not likely to have a pot/fold range here) with only As xs xx.
But in my 3bet range SB vs BU, I could have some high A rundown that could more or less hit this board, even without FD (AQKJ, AJTQ, A9TJ etc...)
Jan. 12, 2019 | 4:43 p.m.