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So which one would you go with?
Thanks


Aug. 16, 2014 | 7:12 a.m.

Comment | atton commented on Hole card bb/100. Wat?

I guess we play the sameish style. Style can give difference, but as far as the difference beetween the stlye is not like 35vpip VS 18vpip, I can't 'blame' it when the differences are so big, like AKs is more than 3x, AKo,AQo almost 2x.

July 31, 2014 | 7:41 p.m.

Post | atton posted in NLHE: Hole card bb/100. Wat?

Hello,

I analyze a lot lately bc I lost a lot in last months, I reviewed my game in a lot of possible ways. I lost all my confidence in my game, otherwise I wouldn't consider myself as someone who doesnt beat Nl200. Today just for sake of curiosity, I looked at individual starting hands just to see whats going on. First I just wanted to check out borderline hands, and big loser hands, so I asked someone, an 1k+ player to tell me his bb/100.
Hands from this year, 60% is NL200, other is Nl500, maybe 3-4% NL100.



KQs is 13bb/100, but not in the pic.

The pokerfriend I asked, playing 1k+,470k sample.:

in bb/100

AKs 316(lol, 3.6 times than mine)
AA 1047 (lol I won more with this actually)
AKo 192
KK 870
QQ 485
JJ 278
TT 196
99 151
AQs 125
AQo 103
KQs 100

So I'm very lost in this numbers. I mean is it possible that I play so bad to won as less money with those hands as I did? Difference is like KK 200bb/100, AKo 80bb/100, AKs 220bb/100. If I won KK like 200bb/100 more its half of my downswing. I play a tag strategy, 23/17 8.1 3bet, so its NOT like I play 16/12 3 on SH tables and putting in AKs 100bb preflop and expect to see a profit.


Furthermore, those are my biggest loser hands:


A3s for example I went allin preflop 3 times, so its not like I 3b/5b every instance with lot of hands, 1time was only 8bb lol. With T9s is like I put in 1 smallblind and then always fold lol.



Thanks!


Cheers,
Atton

July 28, 2014 | 11:42 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Breaking bad habits

Thank you guys for the quality posts! I will think about them and write later!

Gl

July 26, 2014 | 9:47 p.m.

Post | atton posted in NLHE: Breaking bad habits
Hello,

I'm chasing Supernova Elite this year, started at Nl500Z and NL200Z(even 1kZ), now I only play 200Z,200 normal, and 1 table of 100Z. In smaller rooms I play 400-600-(1k) since I consider them way more juicy. So I have like 5Z, and 4-5 normal tables.

So lately I have this problem, kind of bad habit that I do everything very quickly, without realizing a lot of things, and this doesnt only happen when I have little time to make decisions. I do things such as not checking the other player's statistics, not start to think about my range and the opponent's range and some other problems, which are quite large problems.


Did anyone experience the same? What can I do against it? I tried to decrease the number of tables, but didn't seem to help and I don't have the time.

Thank you!

Cheers,

A.


July 21, 2014 | 11:23 p.m.

Hand History | atton posted in NLHE: 500Z 99 Good call? Bad push?
BN: $717.64
SB: $1189.49
BB: $738.49
UTG: $500
HJ: $569.70
CO: $500 (Hero)
Preflop ($7.50) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt 9 9
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $12.50, BN folds, SB raises to $45, BB folds, Hero calls $32.50
Flop ($97.50) 5 7 8 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42.50, SB raises to $110, Hero calls $67.50
Turn ($317.50) 5 7 8 4 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks
River ($317.50) 5 7 8 4 A (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $345, and is all in, SB calls $345
Final Pot
Hero has 9 9 SB has K K SB wins $1002.20

June 14, 2014 | 5:05 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Z200 AQs

But I see the whole point, AQ fold is very bad here. I folded though. :(

June 9, 2014 | 3:56 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Z200 AQs

"If you are not happy with TPTK in a 4B pot, just fold PF." I don't like this point because when you 4bet preflop from EP vs CO and villain calls get a flop QJKddd and you have AcAs you are not happy with your hand anymore but this doesn't mean 4bet is not good it is just mean value in poker is dynamic.

June 9, 2014 | 3:56 p.m.

Hand History | atton posted in NLHE: Z200 AQs
BN: $201 (Hero)
SB: $200
BB: $242.71
UTG: $208.42
HJ: $223.95
CO: $200
Preflop ($3.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt Q A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $5, Hero raises to $16, SB folds, BB folds, CO raises to $38, Hero calls $22
Flop ($84.00) Q J 9 (2 Players)
CO bets $41, Hero calls $41
Turn ($166.00) Q J 9 5 (2 Players)
CO bets $121, and is all in

June 6, 2014 | 10:43 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on NL400 KJs float

I think ch/f the only good option here . Thanks!

June 5, 2014 | 5:55 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on NL400 KJs float
Thank you for your kindness and constructive comment. Glad you were here!


June 5, 2014 | 5:29 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on NL400 KJs float

The opener: 15/10 80% c/f as PFR; nit

June 5, 2014 | 1:01 a.m.

Post | atton posted in NLHE: NL400 KJs float

Hello,


This hand is not mine, I had an argument with a guy about this hand.

He wrote:
"mp3: avg reg, morelike weak, straightforward 14k hands
 CO:Good reg, 24/18 (FR&SH mixed),wide coldcall range, in normal coldcall situation it is 14% from CO, I think it is even more with a fish behind, 86% bet vs mcbet IP flop 7k hands

 SB (50/25 fish, -50bb/100 winrate after big samplesize)
I'm sure CO  will loosen up a bit because the presence of fish, one hand ago  he opened 64s from MP. The other guy wont have wider range than normal."

What you guys think?

I think it is not a good spot to float.

June 5, 2014 | 12:57 a.m.

Comment | atton commented on Nl400 JQhh

@Dan: its nl400.

June 4, 2014 | 12:12 a.m.

Comment | atton commented on Nl400 JQhh

Worst option between what? push>xc u mean, or xf>xc?

June 3, 2014 | 10:05 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Nl400 JQhh
No bluffs? :) AdJx, AdQx, AxQd, 8x, 7d7x just to name a few, or even turn some Tx into bluffs rarely, because most of my overpairs have hard time calling on the river. When our strategy is to ch/f the river with this, which hands we ch/c and which we bet?

I don't say xc is okay, I only say he should have bluffs in this spot.



June 3, 2014 | 10:02 p.m.

Hand History | atton posted in NLHE: Nl400 JQhh
CO: $785.18
BN: $400
SB: $400
BB: $428.92 (Hero)
HJ: $550.34
Preflop ($6.00) (5 Players)
Hero was dealt Q J
HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $8, SB folds, Hero raises to $32, BN calls $24
Flop ($70.00) 8 T 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $42, BN calls $42
Turn ($154.00) 8 T 2 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets $104, BN calls $104
River ($362.00) 8 T 2 9 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $222, and is all in, Hero calls $222

June 3, 2014 | 1:24 p.m.

Post | atton posted in NLHE: Non SD winnings

Hey,

In my last 250k hands I lost 10bb/100 with nonsd and my WR is pretty low, like -3bb/100 in this stretch. Before it I won in bb/100, now but still lost with nonsd, but about 6-7bb/100.

So I'm kinda curious what you guys think how many bb/100 loss is considered okay. I know the overall winrate is the key, but I somewhere read a number which you are below you have pretty big leaks in your nosd game, I remember 8bb, not sure though.


It doesn't matter that much, I know.

Cheers,

Atton

May 30, 2014 | 4:59 a.m.

Post | atton posted in NLHE: It is a HH actually... 200Z AA



20k hands, 16% ep open, 45% overall f3b, fold to flop cb 46, -II- turn cb 26, fold cb 3bpot 45, -II- turn 23%.

It is pretty annoying. He doesn't like folding, but which worse hands/bluffs can he take this line? I don't see much. I think it is a fold afterward, but I'm a nit (that was in my mind when called this).

Cheers!

May 30, 2014 | 2:24 a.m.

Hello,

I'm rebuilding my preflop strategy, I made simulations and calculations etc.

My default strategy is to open ~20% from MP, 16.5% from EP.

So in EP I'm sure 4bet/broke AKo against most regs will be a mistake (we are talking about 'default' strategies here!)

But what about AKo? I see this very very hard to choose whether I should put it into 4b/broke or just flat 3b default.


Cheers,

Atton

May 28, 2014 | 10:38 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on 200Z AJo

I agree with you if you strictly look at GTO ranges.

"-you are very restricted to the amount of bluffs you can 4bet with OTT before you become imbalanced

-you perceive me to be full of shit when i 3bet turns after checking back flops"


Yes, you know that because you read what I wrote. :D Seriously, my POV in this spot is that, if I think he is not balanced, why bother balancing my play? And if he personally catch me here I can change my strategy and be somewhat more standard in the future, at least for a while, and get a lot of value, furthermore then he will chback more strong hands, or when checked back some medium hands he won't want to bet it anymore etc, therefore I can realize more eq in spots. Yes, we don't want to commit a bad play which has -EV, I only say that if he catches me here it is not the end of the world really.

What you think? When we look at someones range and see that he is very exploitable shouldn't we do anything about it, other than slightly change our strategy from "GTO"?


I agree with you when you say not to attack any suspicious line, because most of the time the other dude is trying to mess up with hero's head, but I don't think anyone would chback this flop holding a strong hand and then bet 0.5psb OTT just to trap me. We played some hands together, but nothing crazy or special, so he has no incentive to think I will punish any weakness. I don't even know a guy who I think crazy enough that I want to check back strong hands and then making a small delayed cb on the turn in this nasty runout. I see this a very huge mistake doing this when have no history or anything that indicate this.

May 28, 2014 | 10:33 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on 200Z AJo
He would never 3b turn with 2 pair.


May 28, 2014 | 5:48 a.m.

Hand History | atton posted in NLHE: 200Z AA
BN: $655.29
SB: $901.69
BB: $200
UTG: $200
HJ: $156.72
CO: $480.14 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A A
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $5, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $3
Flop ($11.00) 5 2 Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7
Turn ($25.00) 5 2 Q 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB calls $18
River ($61.00) 5 2 Q 4 8 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $43, BB raises to $170, and is all in, Hero calls $127
Final Pot
BB has 8 8 BB wins $398.20

May 27, 2014 | 1:28 a.m.

Hand History | atton posted in NLHE: 200Z AJo
BN: $200
SB: $221.15 (Hero)
BB: $200
UTG: $451.11
HJ: $98.04
CO: $442.96
Preflop ($3.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A J
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $5, BN folds, Hero calls $4, BB folds
Flop ($12.00) 8 T 6 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks
Turn ($12.00) 8 T 6 K (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6.64, Hero raises to $21, CO raises to $48, Hero raises to $92

May 27, 2014 | 12:30 a.m.

So what is the reason to call flop? Why are we calling there?


May 27, 2014 | 12:28 a.m.

What kind of range do you put him after he xraises this turn with this size? Do you think there is any merit to use this size here(~minraise)
Whats the plan on blank rivers like 2d?


May 26, 2014 | 7:20 p.m.

Oh and the river:
He mostly ch/back his AA,KK, and some rare bluffs, and he wont fold those to ordinary betsizing, nor bluffing on this "safe" river, because our range doesn't have any air, maybe the bottom of our range here is exactly TT. And he can easily have some blocker AsAx,KsKx basically and our xr won't show succes that often. So ch/fold river.

May 26, 2014 | 7:14 p.m.

Flop is close, I don't see too much bluff on this particular flop along with his nitty 3bet %.
The main reason to flat his 3bet preflop is to setmine and the smaller reason is that we will be able to ch/c some flops, which doesn't hit his range (it is very hard not hitting when having 3% 3bet though). This flop hits our range fairly hard, so I don't think he will cbet very often, and if our outs hit we wont make too much money. And we fear some cards (A,K,spade), and not every out we have are 100% clear outs. And when he cbets this flop as bluff(mostly semi bluffs, sometimes with like AsQx KQo if he turned them into bluff) I don't think he will giveup on safe turns nor bluffing on cards when we hit.
I don't see how this guy could exploit us if we "overfold" here.

May 26, 2014 | 7:07 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Calling 4-Bets OOP

Do you think it is correct to have a 60/40 ratio? Why? I'm rebuilding my preflop strategy, and I try to figure out which strategy is the "best". I now have 52/48 from BU. Is it too bluffheavy?

Sorry, I am slightly offtopic here

Thanks for your response and the spreadsheet!

May 26, 2014 | 6:53 p.m.

Comment | atton commented on Calling 4-Bets OOP

Around 36:00: you show a chart with 3 different 4betting strategy.
The first I think is too valueheavy. And AQo>99?

A8o
is better than A5o in this situation? A8o doesnt have better
equity since villain won't 3b/flat 4b 55-77. A8o advantages: block 88(this is huge),
if villain 3b/flat 4b A5s,A4s etc we have better eq (it is more likely
to 5bet push or fold those). A5o advantages: if called, it has little
bit better equity, little bit better nut potential(small spr so thats not a big factor), and we can flop more
gs which is not that bad, furthermore  blocks A5s,55(sounds kind of a
silly idea, it depends on the villain whether he 5bet those or not). So
which one is best? A5o or A8o really?

The second one is way too
bluffheavy therefore a very bad and easy to exploit 'default' strategy,
like 40value:60bluff, that means when opponent 5b pushes he needs around
25-28% equity to be break even with common sizes.

What do you think?


Good video, great content to think about! Can you post the spreadheet please?


Thanks,

Atton

May 26, 2014 | 5:38 p.m.

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