annouza
34 points
Interesting video and this Duo works well. It was great seeing you again in Vegas this year, I didnt think you were coming but glad to see you changed your mind and decided to come down for the Main.
49:10 - And Elio is the man, some people have even told me they believe hes not human, but how is this a call against a MP1 6.5BB shove in this structure when we have 8BB and KTo? Especially in this tournament where most stacks are under 10BB. Isnt our stack more valuable because we still have fold equity and theres more value in jamming light then calling off light in these turbos?
Nov. 15, 2014 | 9:06 a.m.
I agree, or atleast I dont think you can say hes shoving "K8s+" or any broadway, I dont think we can assume hes shoving JTo, QTo, KTo. Although were dominating QJo i think we can fold, but with our stack it cant be that bad.
edit: said this before he woke up with QJo, obvious call now.
Nov. 13, 2014 | 8:56 a.m.
11:15, 88 4bet shove all in on 21bb vs a click back, I tend to have trouble in these spots where opponent less than 2X 3bets as its either nutted and they don't want you to fold or they want a cheap 3bet steal/freeze opponent and take control of pot. Any advice for dealing with this sizing etc? Have you seen opponent 3b/f this sizing, does he 3bet bluff vs EP open, or did you jut assume hes a reg? Id like to know the fundamentals on this, your pretty much saying theres a huge difference between his 3bet/f and 3bet/c range vs your EP open on 21bb. This seems reasonable against certain opponents, but against a lot of players and ppl I have no reads its hard for me to comfortably shove this.
Oct. 2, 2014 | 7:33 a.m.
the AJs @ 15:00?
Sept. 7, 2014 | 6:02 a.m.
funny cause i was just gonna ask about this hand. but yo for us not in the know here can you explain more on this i was like wtf when you non chalantly did that and didnt talk to much about it. I understand his getting it in range here is so small here he might even fold AQ and possibly JJ, but why are we willing to risk our tournament life here when we have such an edge of a soft field?
Sept. 5, 2014 | 5:54 a.m.
Really enjoyed the video, will read the comments later. I started playing around with the tournament variance calculator and it seems interesting, thanks for sharing Espen.
Aug. 12, 2014 | 8:32 a.m.
Would love to see a part 2 or a video with brain rast!
Aug. 5, 2014 | 9:40 p.m.
saw that too wasn't sure if it was because he was in earlier position but still seemed odd
June 9, 2014 | 8:04 a.m.
I agree with pierrehusson here, its a 10K villain is a reg theres no way he is ever getting in AK or QQ pre here, ive made a similar mistake this deep live instead of flatting a 5bet (although there is more attachment to a live 5K tournament, this is still a 10K buy in) . In another tournament I would think this is fine but do you think this is optimal in a big 10K like this or a big live tournament and is your standard in spots like this with KK super deep just to be getting in? Or is this more because this is a super tough field and you want to push any small edge?
June 9, 2014 | 8:02 a.m.
Its very annoying he doesn't even set up a pot-sized river shove, but I don't think he was even thinking that far ahead he just didn't want me to fold turn, which makes me want to fold
even more and. I was contemplating whether he would do this with A3s, A6s etc.
but I think its unlikely and although I could be chopping with AK, that may be one of a few hand that he would be willing to 3bet in position here, but I also don't think he would flat pre w AK and then raise me on Axx.
June 6, 2014 | 8:04 a.m.
IMO in a vacuum the BB 3bet should be pretty strong here. I know most pros are going to say flat 3bet, but I can see why Raphael is advocating a fold. I think top MTT pros who are more experienced and comfortable postflop will be flatting the 3bet and be comfortable playing OOP, however most MTT players do not like the feeling of "floating in space" where they don't know where their at, and like Raphael said its hard to have a plan here are we calling down on 96522, one overcard flops etc. I know NeverScaredB would say "flat and just play good poker".
June 1, 2014 | 5:16 a.m.
I am open to discussing play on all streets (even flop & turn, flat or raise) and fwiw my gut feel was he had me, but not sure if that's enough to fold with such a strong hand.
Poker Stars, $1,000 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 20
ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27559061
MP2: 2,281 (15.2 bb)
Hero
(MP3): 15,270 (101.8 bb)
CO: 11,666 (77.8 bb)
BTN: 6,304 (42
bb)
SB: 19,965 (133.1 bb)
BB: 12,655 (84.4 bb)
UTG+1: 21,734 (144.9
bb)
UTG+2: 24,566 (163.8 bb)
MP1: 19,131 (127.5 bb)
Preflop:
Hero is MP3 with K A
4 folds,
Hero raises to 300, CO calls 300, 2 folds, BB calls
150
Flop: (1,155) A 6 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets
475, CO raises to 1,234, BB
folds, Hero calls 759
Turn: (3,623) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets
1,655, Hero calls 1,655
River: (6,933) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 8,457 and
is all-in
June 1, 2014 | 4:19 a.m.
I would love to see what stevie444 has to say, hes possibly the best person to ask. Theres no question im ahead of his range but im not sure what its worth to be shoving instead of calling off in sattys and these structures.
May 19, 2014 | 6:29 a.m.
Thank you for the response raphael and putting in the work, I think derharrys shoving range is a little bit tighter but it doesnt matter much if he needs to be shoving 6-7% for it to be unprofitable.
Im also curious if there are any other factors that need to be considered because it is a satellite, and if it is worth it to pass up on this because we have to call off our stack, and if it is better to shove somethign worse then call off with AK
May 13, 2014 | 5:14 a.m.
The sample is from this tournament only, and I dont think I have any read on how hes playing the top of his range but I agree that he might not be jamming AA or KK here and we could safely take out atleast AA.
May 10, 2014 | 11:22 p.m.
$1000 888 WSOP Main Event satellite for a $14,000 package. About 86 runners and theres 16 players left, 9 get paid with 9th getting $400, 8th $600, 7th $1000 and 1-6th get the 14K package.
Original raiser in HJ has been playing very aggressive and has been abusing since hes gotten a stack, playing 20/17/9 over 103 hands, the cutoff is 21/16/6 over 71 hands. I think the original raiser will be raising really wide here from the HJ as he has been and the cutoff should be shoving AJ+ ATs+ 55+ and possibly hands like KQ. Im not a satellite expert and I know it sucks to call it off, but based on the HJ raising wide and hardly ever being able to call here once we overcall and the all ins shoving range, can we make this call correctly based on structure and dynamics.
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 583250637 *****
$1,000/$2,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 04 05 2014 19:18:43
Tournament #57420923 $1,000 + $50 - Table #7 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: HenkIvey ( $95,494 )
Seat 2: piripiri1 ( $36,521 )
Seat 3: SirFreshness ( $43,062 )
Seat 4: WlkRambo ( $86,533 )
Seat 6: derharry69 ( $41,250 )
Seat 7: 9Tofdiamonds ( $40,602 )
Seat 9: rajb3 ( $7,263 )
Seat 10: ImaLuckSac ( $23,202 )
piripiri1 posts ante [$200]
SirFreshness posts ante [$200]
WlkRambo posts ante [$200]
derharry69 posts ante [$200]
9Tofdiamonds posts ante [$200]
rajb3 posts ante [$200]
ImaLuckSac posts ante [$200]
HenkIvey posts ante [$200]
rajb3 posts small blind [$1,000]
ImaLuckSac posts big blind [$2,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to 9Tofdiamonds [ As, Kc ]
HenkIvey folds
piripiri1 folds
SirFreshness folds
WlkRambo raises [$4,000]
derharry69 raises [$41,050]
9Tofdiamonds?
May 7, 2014 | 8:21 a.m.
Deep in the Big $22 on a saturday, 4300 runners $13K to first. Theres 12 left at this point and villain is a 20/17/9. As far as this hand I think it is really close, but when 6 handed villain has 3bet a utg open all in w 22 for 20bb, which isnt bad by any means but it kind of swayed my decision. UTG villain was a maniac, whos been 2.5-3xing alot, so im sure he wasnt too worried about his open. Getting almost 2:1 here on a call w JJ 6handed seems hard to fold.
PokerStars Hand #115677158435: Tournament #901051276, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XLI (12500/25000) - 2014/05/03 19:36:07 ET
Table '901051276 77' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: lipeabruzzi (932013 in chips)
Seat 2: Hubertus91 (663697 in chips)
Seat 3: Edgecrush3r (2272440 in chips)
Seat 6: annouzac (952367 in chips)
Seat 7: igotnutsbaby (777007 in chips)
Seat 9: mashek (467835 in chips)
lipeabruzzi: posts the ante 3125
Hubertus91: posts the ante 3125
Edgecrush3r: posts the ante 3125
annouzac: posts the ante 3125
igotnutsbaby: posts the ante 3125
mashek: posts the ante 3125
lipeabruzzi: posts small blind 12500
Hubertus91: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to annouzac [Js Jd]
Edgecrush3r: raises 44315 to 69315
annouzac: raises 102185 to 171500
igotnutsbaby: folds
mashek: folds
lipeabruzzi: folds
Hubertus91: raises 489072 to 660572 and is all-in
Edgecrush3r: folds
HERO?
May 3, 2014 | 11:55 p.m.
Im curious about the A9 @ 4:30 lol cause my standard is to rip there, and im confident your standard is to rip as well, and @20min you contemplate calling A8o in SB to HJ's 15bb shove on about 20bb, which I think I would fold on your stack.
"I'm gonna raise call this KTs here... cause screw it, but he has the stevies which is a very powerful hand and he ends up with perhaps too many 4s for me to beat"
April 21, 2014 | 11:29 p.m.
Hilarious video as always Dave, was wishing you luck in the warm-up when we were talking in the 11r, pretty funny I ended up coming back and taking that down this sunday too :) (mini-brag)
We met in vegas last year playing the little one for one drop on Day1 and we had some really hilarious conversations about life, politics, the bible, gurdle etc. xuan liu and the rest of the table probably thought we were insane haha
With the AJs there I think your being to hard on yourself I know its questionable and painful but I can see what you were thinking, and now your thinking you levelled yourself. Even though hes a maniac you were probably thinking because the flop is A33ss he bets you call, turn completes the flush he bets again and you still call.
You might be thinking that hes should very possibly be putting you on have A) A flush or B) An Ace thats called down and because theres a Q on board for the chop you wont be folding much, and he should be aware of this no matter how LAG he is, therefore you end up folding.
But lets try and hand range him; b/c As and Qs on board the most likely flushes would look like KTs, KJs, JTs and maybe some lower suited connectors, and unless hes super ambitious at this point I think hes going to be flatting these suited hands for often then 3betting and potentially getting blown off when he wants to see a flop, so im not convinced he has a flush very often. The click back definitely includes the top of his range and of this realistically he can only have AA, AK, AQ or QQ that is beating us now. Because hes not a standard player its up for debate how he plays all these hands and its tought because we have an Ax blocker to someof these. I can see him doing this with QQ or AA and his story checks out where he cbets A33 flop tiny, bets turn tiny to keep in your weaker hands and bets "bigger" on river looking too get paid. He could also do this with AK with K of spades, but he might bet bigger with AK w/out Ks and AQ. And ofcourse your chopping with all his AJ-AT and lower suited aces unless he has A5s or A3s.
Interesting spot either way and please dont commit suicide, drop yourself, null your contract or divorce yourself, WE NEEEED YOU!
April 2, 2014 | 8:13 a.m.
I frequent souther california pretty often and ive been to commerce, pachangas and san manuel, the later two are 18+, extreeeeeemly soft, but dont ever really run games bigger then 5/5. If you like limit then your in luck.
March 11, 2014 | 7:31 p.m.
I love the no overlap with tables, what resolution is your monitor?
March 9, 2014 | 7:58 a.m.
I was really surprised, but I dont want to comment much on the 9Ts hand because ive read through the comments and im satisfied with your response, and to add to Beladarion's posts, that even though its a tough field, we obviously have to factor in your skill edge and the obvious fact you can find a much better spot or situations to use 18BB (9 opens, 4 opens and continuation bets (2x and 2.5x), luxury of having your stack etc.).
I would like to add that I love how you were hand ranging the last couple hands you played in this video and I think thats something you should continue to implement as it opened my eyes alot at how easy you break it down. I really enjoyed the way you analyzed his range @ 26min w/ QTo, especially when talking about his possible FD combos based on his preflop calling range etc. Its so easy to just play autopilot when multitabling and sometimes I just autopilot-range players as recently Ive been reminding myself to range at every street so this was really refreshing.
March 8, 2014 | 9:08 a.m.
+1 that's what the 6 bet is bad, he's not calling worse enough to make it profitable, all it does is simplify the hand by narrowing his range further
Feb. 28, 2014 | 12:38 a.m.
Thanks for the respone paul and that makes lots of sense. This means it is obviously player dependent as I think only the better part of regs are 3bet inducing AJ on 20bb stack sizes while alot of midstakes regs would rather make things easy and shove preflop to avoid future decisions, so in a $22 1r1ais this optimal? I play tons of small and mistakes and I understand were 4 handed but also the pressure of being on the final table could cause him to just simplify the hand and shove. Considering this im not surprised at all that he jams AJo.
Feb. 26, 2014 | 8:38 a.m.
bump, know youve been busy :)
Feb. 26, 2014 | 8:24 a.m.
Your right and Im probably not being creative enough, but how often are we going to see the SB cold calling OOP when he flops a straight draw or flush draw with the original raiser still left to act (i would rather 4bet then call OOP). Most likely scenario is it gets raised or folded back around to the original raiser. With no other info, if the original raiser proceeds with his hand and ever has a draw here its most likely going to be a flush draw if not the top of his range.
Feb. 26, 2014 | 8:20 a.m.
I late regged an hour into the Main Event (despite watching sam greenwoods live tips) and was lucky enough to get drawn on one of the few 10-handed tables in the room with mike watson, shannon shorr and DannyN13. The hand happened within 25-30 hands of me sitting down and im still on 28.5K from my 30K starting stack while Danny has already doubled his starting stack, sitting on roughly 60K.
Blinds at 75/150 25ante and were dealt KK in the SB, older man raises UTG+1 to 325, DannyN13 sitting mp3 3bets to 900, i tank and then cold 4bet to 2500. Ive played with Danny before at WPT Events and just spoke to him before I registered so it was pretty funny when I got seated on his table. So it gets folded back around to Danny who smiles at me, and then thinks for a little before 5betting 6000. I tank and 6bet to 11,000 and within 30 seconds he shoves all in. We are left with roughly 17.5k, Hero?
FWIW danny has already shown aces twice since i sat down.
I also want to discuss flatting the 5bet, and how I should proceed from there based on bet sizes we will likely face on flop and turn on different board textures.
Feb. 26, 2014 | 7:42 a.m.
20:40 did you consider that because frenzuh is a reg and minraises b2b instead of 2.5x+ raising, tell you he has a stronger hand and is more likely to call
Feb. 24, 2014 | 8:47 a.m.
tried google chrome, still the same problem, ive been trying randomly for over a month and I still have the same problem
52:30 - Always shoving here w A6o, and feel even better about it against cal.
53:45 - Can we also talk about discussion about checking back Ace high here on this flop. Elio mentioned earlier when discussing if you should barrel KQo on the T23A board and he made a similar comment like "the only thing is you dont have many aces in your flop betting range" and that threw me off because I think most people are betting AJ-AK here over 65% of the time. Because you said it, I wouldnt doubt checking back these hands could be a superior play but Im just trying to understand why. And is there any merit to the idea that even if your in the top percent of players that play so well postflop your comfortable checking back here it doesnt mean other players think like that as well (therefore we have Ax in our range etc..).on this 884cc Im more likely to check back AA for value later on than check AK, because he simply doesnt ever have much in this spot and is gonna check fold alot.
Nov. 15, 2014 | 9:23 a.m.