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andr3w321

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Hand1:  Villain is a russian reg.  People tend be be more showdown happy in 8game and it's obviously softer than a straight 25/50 plo game.  I realize I have the second nuts, but the K is one of the worst river cards in the deck for me.  I'm not sure how much value there is in betting and I'm really hating life after he jams over my bet.  I think it's probably just a bet/fold, but would like to hear others opinions.

PokerStars Game #115136123711:  Omaha Pot Limit ($25.00/$50.00) - 1970/01/01 12:00:00 ET

Table 'Orma III' 10-max Seat #5 is the button

Seat 1: russian ($5839.80 in chips) 

Seat 4: hero ($7216.00 in chips) 

Seat 5: reg ($5207.55 in chips) 

russian: posts small blind $25.00

hero: posts big blind $50.00

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Seat 4: hero dealt [Ac 9s 3h Qs] 

reg: folds 

russian: raises $100.00 to $150.00

hero: calls $100.00

($300) *** FLOP *** [9h 6h Ad]

russian: bets $200.00

hero: calls $200.00

($700) *** TURN *** [9h 6h Ad] [Ah]

russian: checks 

hero: bets $500.00

russian: calls $500.00

($1700) *** RIVER *** [9h 6h Ad Ah] [Ks]

russian: checks 

hero: bets $1400.00?

russian: raises $3589.80 to $4989.80 and is all-in

hero...?


Hand2 villain is a good solid reg at all the games I would say.  He can definitely show up with the nuts and slightly better or worse flushes.  It's possible he may CR bluff me, but I think that's a very low % as people don't turn showdown hands into bluffs too often especially in 8game.  I'm not sure how suspicious he'll get with a set or straight here.

PokerStars Game #115133051155:  Omaha Pot Limit ($25.00/$50.00) - 1970/01/01 12:00:00 ET

Table 'Orma III' 10-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 4: hero ($5351.67 in chips) 

Seat 6: reg ($7473.73 in chips) 

hero: posts small blind $25.00

reg: posts big blind $50.00

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Seat 4: hero dealt [5d Qh 7c Jc] Jack high clubs 

hero: raises $100.00 to $150.00

reg: calls $100.00

($300) *** FLOP *** [3c 6s Tc]

reg: bets $194.67

hero: calls $194.67

($689.34) *** TURN *** [3c 6s Tc] [Kd]

reg: bets $447.74

hero: calls $447.74

($1584.82) *** RIVER *** [3c 6s Tc Kd] [5c]

reg: checks 

hero: bets $1200.00?



April 23, 2014 | 11:02 p.m.

After he bets he only needs 23% equity to get it in so I doubt he's folding.  Any line you take that doesn't involve folding has to be good.  

As far as EV difference between getting it in now vs donking turns I'm not real sure how to work it all out but here's some stats to get someone started.  The board will pair ~20% of the time on the turn(6.6% chance for 9,7 or 5).  He'll have trips or fullhouse some portion of those times.  KQT9 has 8.3% equity on a 5 turn vs AA so he absolutely should be folding this if he puts you on AA.  Calling would yield him 39,000*.083=$3237.  Folding would leave him with $8900 so its a $5k "mistake".

I think the more interesting decision is whether checking or betting is best on the flop, because giving him a free card with a hand like AKQT or 6622 that he would fold to a bet and letting him turn equity and get it in is vs you is an absolute disaster.  

I'm also curious how you would actually play AAxx on this board.  You said you would occasionally checkfold dry AAxx, but how are you continuing with the worst aces you would continue with - AA23 with backdoor flushdraw?

Aug. 30, 2013 | 9:58 p.m.

I would fold and wait for a better spot.  I don't know why people knowingly put their stack in vs Aces in PLO in these spots.  You have 41.5% HU vs aces.  George and utg also likely have big cards in their hand giving you fewer outs.

Aug. 27, 2013 | 8:36 p.m.

If called then you get play poker :).  What's his continuing range?  What's the turn card?  I'm pretty sure we are not always behind when called on all turns so no we are not always shutting down and checkfolding.


It's not really a raise for information, more like a range merge where you have something between a draw and a strong made hand.  In hold'em it's kind of like check raising middle or bottom pair which I think you should do occasionally.

Aug. 16, 2013 | 9:56 p.m.

Do you think we should be folding 100% of our hands?  Playing PG oop deep is going to be difficult, but clearly there are SOME hands you think you can play profitably here vs him, or at least lose less than 1 BB which is what folding does.  K763ds falls into this top x% of hands we should be playing here.

Aug. 8, 2013 | 3:56 a.m.

In Phil's spot with bare AA with spades, say As9sAh8d would you always be betting the turn or would you check back usually.  Does your answer change if you are deeper?

Aug. 8, 2013 | 2:07 a.m.

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