analihilator

this thread is fire.

hyper agressive bankroll management strategy for teh win

very beatable. recent results @ PLO10z:

another day another ~1000

these games are still crushable.

my suggestion: run both HUD-friendly and HUD-free games.

know your enemy. try barreling them, then make a note on whether they like to call or fold, and what their idea of you might be after seeing you barrel them.

small edges count, and they add up. if you are using a HUD with custom colour ranges on the stats and labeling player types and taking notes and playing a robust strategy and grinding volume, you will win if your opponents aren't doing all those things.

but seriously, the only answer is to PLAY MORE VOLUME, embrace the variance, let it corn hole you a few times and then you can always ease back and play less volume and the variance wont feel so bad as you've already had your corn hole widened.

uh maybe i should think of a different metaphor

what do you do with the dog to make you feel less tilted ? kick it ? im dont understands

fresh sighting: "IALLCALL"

that's good ... how about a picture of this guy and name 'frozen in time' and do the same thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM0r3t55-Rc

uh my understanding is short stacking and playing tight is the correct adjustment to seeing a lot of flops with 8 call happy maniacs. wait and push your equity and get 3:1, 4:1 or whatever on your 50bb. you always see all 5 cards. i really don't know what you mean by saying their 'edge is bigger'. do you mean compared to postflop ? poker is a game of small edges - unless you are a genius, tilting will totally erase your edge and turn you into a losing player. the proof is in the pudding ... 40buyin downswing ? that's drastic. you gotta do something different and i'm not sure playing more hands is the answer.

damn. variance is a bitch then i guess ! if you can't win or avoid tilting when you are short stacking maniacs, hard to see how you're going to win any other way 9 handed live. you're just playing into the maniac's game. their strategy is to reduce your edge by increasing variance, whether the dood derping it off with his naked queen high flush draw knows it or not.

its making me feel better about not playing my own local 9 handed maniac 1/2 game, really !

can you buy in for less than 100bb ? 50bb ? once you are below 50bb, can you reload small without having to go all the way back to 100bb ?

i know we are all taught to believe that shortstacking is cancer, but 9 handed live is a very different game to 6handed online. have you thought about how the strategies of the 200bb maniacs who are targeting each other's 200bb stacks would be affected by the presence of a short stack playing a coherent strategy ? they are much more comfortable with you sitting at 100bb and trying to run up to 200bb and then playing 200bb poker with them ... you may have an edge but they are in their comfort zone. maniacs love this game !

there is low blind pressure 9-10 handed. you can afford to wait for decent hands, and it makes sense to do so because there are so many hands out there. sit with 50bb and keep limping and waiting for your premium hand. when you catch AAxx or AKKx etc. you can limp/reraise and get most of your stack in. if you can sit to the right of an aggressive maniac with a high 3bet %, its actually great because you can sneak in with your AAxx limp and expect a raise/3b from him which will trap all the sticky stations in if they are never folding. you might even be able to then 4bet all in preflop ! it will be a real annoying amount for them to call and they will have a crazy pot where they of course can never exploit you with a bluff and you don't have to worry about any more decisions or have anything more at stake than your 50bb. they might know exactly what you have but they can't really do anything about it and they will still be licking their chops looking at the other 200bb maniac across the table. even if you can't get all in pre, you are guaranteed an SPR that you can shove on any flop, and good things can happen like the 200bb maniacs bluffing each other off hands that would have beat you.

AND of course, losing your 50bb obv hurts 50% as much as losing your 100bb. the times you hit, you are suddenly playing deep stack poker with maniacs using their own money, with a tight image.

why limit yourself to one strat ? being able to adjust will provide you with an edge if your opponents cannot similarly change gears and/or don't suspect that you can.

and if its 100bb minimum buy in... just dont reload your stack :)

+1 on quality over quantity.

something to consider is starting your session with 4 tables and cutting back to 2 for the long grind once you have built up big stacks on 2 out of 4 entries.

deep stack requires more focus and thought than 100bb, both in terms of technical deep play and in terms of utilising your image effectively in the zoom environment.

a common scenario for me multi tabling PLO micro zoom is that i go up and down for the first thousand hands or so, and wind up at about even but with a deep stack or two in play. this is usually when i will sit out of the entries i haven't gotten ahead on and focus on my deep entries, looking to stack those random fish who have stumbled into a deep stack by winning a 40/60 or whatever.

in NL maybe you will be looking to intimidate them to death instead, depending on their tendencies. havinga 1000bb stack to push people around with is fun in any case, and in zoom they cant really avoid you :)

yeah +1, this is the paul chek i mentioned earlier. his youtube channel is very extensive.

not sure about the spots you're picking to bluff :) spots where you're blocking the hands they might fold and not blocking their value combos OR their bluffcatching combos, like that T93fd hand ... sometimes we just gotta give up because we're not repping anything or they're not thinking about what we're repping or both.

and he just took 6 months off to do nothing but yoga ... :)

awesome level

elliott hulse is a beast, awesome reference !! look up paul chek's channel as well.

the jogging+exercise goal is so much more +ev than the arbitrary 100k hands]one :)

Time Lord with a picture of an hourglass.

then every time you fold a big spot, run out your timebank first

a few points ...

pre: agree with it not being a mandatory 3bet ... at these stakes it will often be the case that we're not getting the folds we need to get it to HU often enough to justify 3betting a holding that is gonna make a lot of marginal hands post. if i had enough hands, i would glance at the fold to 3b stats of the players still in the hand - if one of them is foldy i feel a lot better about 3betting here. being this deep we can pretty much count on the CO never folding and we are bloating a pot oop super deep with a relatively marginal holding. i would just flat and look to play a small pot in this scenario.

flop: if you're not cbetting with AAxxdd, what are you cbetting ? :) once the flop comes out 2tone and we are multiway our hand loses a lot of value. bet/gii is not great on this texture - feel a lot better about it on a rainbow board that gives us two backdoor flush draws. even with our decent top wrap, the diamond draw kills so many of our outs and means we could get freerolled, which just sucks this deep. worth a call but i wouldn't be getting too excited.

turn: we are facing a very, very strong multiway barrel that is setting up to shove the river and we need to fold. the number of combos he has that crush you vastly outweigh the number of combos you could possibly be beating. you need to put a lot of crazy bluffs in villain's range to call down this deep - like, a ton. we need to fold and its that simple. need a strong read on villain to ever consider calling here.

river: its time to cry in the shower and reflect on past decisions :) welcome to PLO !

my friend, being affected by downswings only means one thing: you're human :)

we are creatures of habit and creatures of emotion. the resilience you need to weather the downswings can only be cultivated one way, and its the long, hard way.

don't be afraid to step away. time away from the game can be spent studying (very important that you don't stop studying) and getting the rest of your life balance straight.

your gym talk indicate you have intuited the truth that routine is key: have your things that you are doing, which you do whether you win or not. eat right, sleep right, exercise right, relax right. do all of those things so that poker isn't your all and everything and when the milk turns sour you won't feel quite so beat up :)

wp posting when things are bad, not just when they're good. anyone can win successfully ! takes real character to lose successfully.

you want to learn the emotional toughness to handle downswings, play some PLO ... the two card game will seem relaxing by comparison ;)

anyone can win well. takes real character to lose well.

if you want to play a game where shoving equity makes more sense, you could try PLO ;) four cards means you've almost always got some kind of backdoor bullshit going on when you get it in !