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Ziigsildurrr1

6 points

Nothing you should blame yourself for imo...
We shouldn't be too worried about him having J8xx since we already have the two eights and in addition, he would have raised at least the turn with that type of hand.
He didn't raise pre-flop from the CO either which makes JQKx unlikely as well.

With that in mind I think your play was fine. You should probably take a little note on this guy as he called you down to the river with middle pair (along with the pure gutshot) to make sure you'll be value betting in this spots in the future.

Dec. 18, 2012 | 7:32 p.m.

completely agree with carab!

...the way this hand was played by villain until the river, most of the time this guy is hoping for a check in order to check it back and get to a free showdown. With that in mind the sizing of our value bet shouldn't be too big. $16 is fine - maybe even less, if you want to allow some straights to pay you off.

How did you play the hand?

Dec. 14, 2012 | 6:09 p.m.

all right - I think I got it! ;)

but let's think about a different scenario where you made (top-)set -again without any redraws-
on this flop! how do you continue the hand?
Chances are your hand is probably crushed by one of them - so we're left with 7 outs which means we're getting pretty much the right odds for a call... On the other hand - like you already said - we're going to have a lot of money left on the turn and have to act OOP with a good chance to make a bad decision!

Should we consider to c/f the flop?

Dec. 10, 2012 | 11:22 a.m.

definitely a good point sam!

Dec. 10, 2012 | 10:55 a.m.

hey sam!
first of all thank you for sharing your thoughts in this hand review - some really interesting approaches & ideas! :)
...however, i'm having trouble to understand your shove on the flop with that 97TKds hand at 9:00!
I agree completely with checking the flop.
And I might be wrong but in my opinion it's better to continue the hand with a call instead of shoving it?!
Like you said, jointy33 can easily have some TJQ-combos, FDs...

I think you are casually risking your entire stake in this spot.
You have absolutely no re-draws and allowing your opponent to freeroll you, right?!
Wouldn't it be a better way to just call here and on the turn you can still decide whether to push or not,
depending on what kind of card comes up...
I mean what kind of hand will be calling here on the flop when you are reraising?
Only strong draws or made hands (with redraws)?!

Is my way of thinking to conservative?
Just some thoughts that popped in my mind while I was watching that hand...
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Dec. 9, 2012 | 7:33 p.m.

hey phil!
that's my first video I watched on this site!
You guys are doing a great job I think! :)
I wonder if there will be any PLO rush/zoom session reviews?
Would love to hear your thoughts on that type of game!
Regards!

Dec. 9, 2012 | 4:23 p.m.

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