ZachZeeBo

I would really like some other opinions on this but from my experience it is mostly a slowplayed set on the flop or a turned twopair hand. Sure people raise some Pair+fd on the turn and we would feel silly folding vs. This but i believe its a made hand most of the time.

Very interesting spot imo.

Folding pre is a mistake. Flop IMO we are to much behind vs a range he goes AI basically if he has hearts we dont doing too good here. I think its a call on this flop and nothing else.

If he is c/r a lot you need to prepare before you cbet and check this back. If he is c/r rarely this is a clear fold as you are way behind vs. His value range.

Well to be honest I would look at his river betting stats and decide if I call it off or not. If he is passive I fold it but snap vs. Some semimaniacs.

Very opponent dependent situation imo.

Always call this. No point in raising.

You need to POT turn with 100% of your betting range. Maybe something like topset+nfd you might bet smaller but with any aces up/set/combodraw a pot bet is best

Im super convinced that you should bet turn bigger and bet river bigger. As played for sure raise his riverraise AI

Fold pre

Fold now

What du you mean betting 60% a mistake? U think he should. Et bigger?....

Well u dont have kk or qq and if he has the other one betting for value his is getting called by a lone 8..., which might fold to a bigger bet. i think its afold on the river and im not sure but preflop might be a fold too... Folding for sure if im playing to many tables but might be a call if 4 tabling.

Jeah I mostly see people donking like tp+kickers type of hands here.

Stacksizes are too short imo and his wts too high. Pre call is fine though. Depends how often the blinds 3bet.

3betting preflop makes no sense with that hand

Like it

Nah... We simly cant imo

Flop c/r would be my default. If he bets and we just calls... Its just not pretty to play. Preflop flatting is better for sure. Turn if we check twice its a fold. We dont have even close to enough outs and no idea about implieds.

As played i really hate the river bet buts this is a ba situation because u got urself inthe spot by betting the flop

What do u do if he bets the flop? X/c? If yes what do you do on a turncard which is not a club or a king?x/c again?

If you x/r flop do you raise fold?(worst line obv lol) or would you simply x/f because you say he is passive?

I like that but for whatever reason I feel rasing anywhere between 16-19 is much better as 24. imo he is folding sets to a 24$ raise but calls a smaller one. Might be totaly off here but thats kinda my gut feeling lol

Im not so sure about the flip bet beeing super neccecery. People might simply fold low fd without backup. But would pay off 1-2 bets when they hit. Not saying betting is bad esp. Because we get more value by getting folds and barreling or hitting the flush as the agressor

X/jam if bu calls? I would assume our avarege equity if we get this in would be pretty low. We would hope for our fd to be live which it will never be if it goes multiway. Also i think we need to factor in that we never crush but are crushed some of the time while beeing ~40-45% most often i assume.

I would think of bet folding probably but im not sure.

Not a fan of the 3bet btw

Also what do you think if villaint has something like kjjx. About x/raising river. I find these often some god plays because its tough to call a river x/r with anything other than kt. Him blocking a k makes it less likely u have one. However if he x/r here he repsKT and kk only which is very well in his range obv. But not to many combinations.

Im not too üositive about that but I thnk we has to bet AT here. The board is a little too bricky imo. I would for sure checkback JT. Not sure about QT probably bet

Just wanted to point out that this is very opponent dependent. Alot of people will simply fold to the Cbet-> just bet yourself and fold if their raising range is too strong.

Some will stab here a log if you check. X/c here and x/r turn or justx/r flop works good vs. These people. 

Sme who like to float with pair+xxx here we can abrrel off also a lot of people call twice here but might fold to third barrel.

Its our job to find out which tendencies the opponent has(either via stats or experience playing with him but preferrably both) and adjust our betting actions to the specific type

Call for sure man. He might check some diamonds and u can bluff. Also you have implieds on some of your potential outs. 

Raise flop and stack off. So much better to play that hand

Whats his 3betting %? Is this a 40bb capped table? I dont get those stacksizes. If he is 3 betting a lot push pre. As play push flop.

Why do you assume that he has to have a madehand here? And why do you assume that bare JT will pay us of on an A or Q turn? I want to push the flop to get it AI vs kqj stuff and to charge other rundowns which have a T in their hand like qt98 or kqt9.

We do have some FE if we push the flop which is another point.

Im on ipad so i make it short:

1. dont think aboutmpositive or negative redline. Think about making the best play vs. Oppenents range EVERY single desicion.

2. there are both winningplayers with positive or negative nonsd line. No need to forcefully be the one or the other.

3. your downswing isnt that big honestly. Eerybody had something like that and a lot of people had runs which have been way worse.

4. how many tables do you play btw?

I am super sure this has to be a push and that folding here would be a terrible mistake

Why u talk about hard to read hand?.. Sure turning the nuts would be nice but that isnt happening too often. Amd if he ships kqj ort987 on any blank turn where we have to fold i think potting here is best.

However i would 4bet preflop