Yolan
622 points
19min what do you think of bluff raising with 48 in this spot ? I guess bluffraise when the board is 887Q is better, because even if he doesn’t have JT (weak bluffcatcher) you have way less potential bluff in your perceived range, and I don’t think people would call you enough.
15m30
Impressive fold, would you consider folding this hand against a rec without informations ?
27 hand
I prefer to fold on the flop vs rec. Our hand is often dominated , and our two pair out is not great. Also, rec players tend to only use this size when they have a good hand or an high equity hand, which makes the call even worst in my opinion.
I prefer to have a clean dp out (Q2) If I have 2 pairs ott, I don’t want 30% of the river deck to be a bad card for me. I fold Q2 in this spot anyway. Only call Kx and I’m honestly not convinced that calling Kx is +ev here.
Your content is very great, especially when we can see the showdown, it helps you a lot to understand how population is actually playing.
I have the feeling that when people do small river bet , they want to.induce you are make a cheap bluff and when they bet big they just want to value big. Obviously this is a general thought and doesn’t have to necessarily always interact with your thinking process river
Would be nice to see more of these.
Cheers.
April 20, 2021 | 6:31 p.m.
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April 15, 2021 | 9 a.m.
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April 15, 2021 | 8:17 a.m.
13min hand
It seems weird to be that a hand like 6x is bluffing river because you have a tone of other combos to bluff with (QJ J9 etc...). Don’t you think those hands (even if they block a portion of vilain xf range) are not better to bluff shove rather than a hand who has a removal effect ?
I don’t think we ever shove 6x in theory
Edit : thanks for the sim ;)
I don’t think you can bluff all of these hands in 6max (full combo of QJ J9 and even some J5 Tx) cause the number of flushes you have btn vs bb is reduce quite a lot. Interesting to see that it’s not the case at heads up.
KT is only calling because you have KT yourself imo. Otherwise I don’t think it’s a really good bluffcatcher. I agree with you on this spot.
The 53 is very interesting, don’t you think in general people wouldn’t find enough raise on this board especially with the Ax low region ?
Something important here when we look your betting frequency on the turn is that we are in a spot where betting your 87 69 type hands don’t lead to lower your EQR so much (cause your out are mostly clean river against vilain s range when you hit.) By having a « similar » eqr, it doesn’t affect too much the ev or your bet. We can imagine that if it was the opposite, a lot of hands would have more incentives to X.
Are you ok with this statement ?
On the river , don’t forget to add bigger ovb cause it is often taken and there are cool to study.
Nice video, always like your content.
Cheers.
April 13, 2021 | 7:37 p.m.
3:00 You said you have an easy decision on the river, try to bet 1 or 2bb in these spots when vilain is not going to ever bluff raise you. Also, he might be very curious in that spot.i know if he bluffs sometimes this moove is very bad, but in general regs don’t go too crazy in these lines.
9:37 I agree on this point. I noticed the same when people use this sizing.
43 QTcc , never saw a value hand here from vilain. I call 100% and try to make him fold on the river. You can click on the flop also. Anyway fold is not a big mistake overall.
52 This board is a high cb frec even if it’s a monotone board. The sizing you have to use is 15% !! It allows you to bet a lot, if you sim with this sizing you will see that pio use it very often.
March 18, 2021 | 10:24 p.m.
2:47 AT is a clear fold in theory, even KQo starts to mixing some fold, which is quite surprising !
25min QQ , I think betting 2/3 here is a big mistakes, This 3d is one of the worst card in the deck, betting QQ isolate you against the strong portion of his range.
Didn’t see the strat on Pio but I guess it’s a range X or at least small size with a small frec (so we can basically x range and don’t loose any ev).
I don’t mind the river play, but if he doesn’t call 66-55d or other pocket pairs you shove is absolutely terrible given how many flushes he has in proportion.
You often say that you have a 0ev call or « it’s a 0 ev spot » , I advice you to be careful on these assumptions, as most of humans are far from what a GTO solution can be. So in practice, spot are far from being 0 ev. There are 0ev in a human player mind cause he can’t detect any big deviation would make him think his spot is 0ev.
Nice video overall, would be nice to see at least 1 pio sim in the vid ( at the end or during the hand, as Peter Clark do sometimes)
Cheers.
March 18, 2021 | 10:07 p.m.
First hand, 4B pot you say that you didn’t expect people to fold QQ JJ very often vs a jam. So what do you think with a Kx to use the X turn in order to leverage these Hands river ? The xc xc region seems not well construct by the pop.
3min J9 , what do you think of a 15% betsize on the river ? You don’t have a lot of bluff in your perceived range, and a lot of players are super sticky in this line.
35min do you tlike the xmin raise (2x-2.2) Q9 at a high frec ?
Especially vs someone who ranges cb, you are able to make fold hands like bws or low pp (10 to 15% EQ against you) and get called from’ low EQ hands. That’s uncertain but as deep a large amount of player are just going to range bet.
Also, x Minraise allows vilain to make mistakes and potentially raise his very strong hands , so our EQ when we get call is high in the bet call line from vilain.
What do you think ? At 100bbdeep and 150deep.
March 8, 2021 | 4:07 p.m.
13m30
I really don’t like this call here on the flop, did you ever see someone raise folding here ? I advice you to click or jam this spot, to avoid 14% of the deck which can freeze the action.
36min If you think people are overfolding against river block on AT3T7 board, why are you not trying to bet smaller than 33% ? Something like 18% or even 15% might be fun, forcing him to call a lot of hands, and I don’t think x would be specially better than this small size.
The ev of this bet goes up in a pool too passive, because people are not finding enough bluff raises, so we are going to see the showdown more often.
Cool format, thanks.
Jan. 13, 2021 | 9:56 a.m.
1m04 I think gu river is a mistake here, I understand the reasons to x, but keep in mind you can block KdQ, all Kxdd and even some A9 Q9, 58seems to be a pure bet for me.
5m30 Q4cc
Honestly I would prefer fold turn this one, even if that’s not gto approved, OOP doesn’t have to use a such a big size turn on a board like that, his bluffing region doesn’t seem to add too many bet xf combos, as most of his gu or going to bet on the river, and even if it’s not true, he still have plenty of vb, which I feel I have to massively fold here facing a big bet to maximize ev here.
8m50 I really like your play here, do you think pop in general has enough Jx with this size/ timing of bet ?
10:39 « more value than bluff when people are snap betting the river»
I disagree with this quote, it’s difficult to be right on a such subjective topic, but from my exp , pop generally want to rep strong when they snap jam. And often , bluffing (if you only focus on your hand) sometimes don’t need too much times of réflexion, whereas a part of the value region do (thin region, which sizes picks, super nuts, etc...)
25min WHich sizes can we used on the turn here ? T8 spot.
Thanks for this one, always clears thoughts process.
Cheers.
Jan. 13, 2021 | 9:27 a.m.
56
Your tree is not complet here, the minraise is missing, the raise frec with the small raise size might be 20%-25%~ instead of 8%.
At the end you said « good call by me », but you go into the small turn line river donk shove, and used a more geometric betsize IG, which may be affected the way AJ is playing turn by OOP, and so it might change the river play and the equilibrium by a lot.
Nice video overall, I found you sometimes a little bit too cs but at least we can see more showdown.
Jan. 13, 2021 | 8:26 a.m.
On 732ss , you only put the 3x raise for OoP, do you think on some boards we have incentive to develop some smaller xr to prevent IP to bet a lot ? I already noticed PIO like to make those moves. How do you think adding the opportunity for OOP player to XR 2.2x and 2.5x is going to change the tree ?
Awesome video.
Best regards.
Nov. 25, 2020 | 4:27 p.m.
18:02 K7o OOP is folding 100%, it makes sens, even against your hand he doesn’t have a lot of equity.
Great video again.
Nov. 25, 2020 | 3:39 p.m.
Great content ! Thanks .
Nov. 25, 2020 | 3:06 p.m.
First hand is very interesting, as you said, Pop is generally missing these small size OTT and flop high xr frec vs range bet .
Thanks for this one, i learned a new stuff !
Nov. 24, 2020 | 2:52 a.m.
This format is really gold , thanks !
Becareful on your postflop tree, you dont allow oop to raise bigger than 52%. This is an issue, especially on this AKxx spots (1rst hand) where IP player starts developping some small bet IP on this boards, this is not a thing in theory (at least not at 15%).
It will change your simulation drastically on certains spots where because of the cap raise size from oop , Ip can bet small OTT to controle the pot and avoid getting prob ovb river.
Nov. 24, 2020 | 2:28 a.m.
Thanks for this one, a lot of interesting pot.
6:12 vs OOP3B . You are allowed to raise 18% against the small size, and even more if he bets his entire range.
10:01 KTs on AA2 3B POT OOP is pure folding KT in my sim. You have a hand which doesnt interact well with vilain s range, you are blocking the BW region you will target by bluffing later. Also you cant improve against an A, thats why PP are better than Kts to call (or to raise) .
I dont think blockbet makes sense here OTR, your value region is Ax+ , and these hands have enough equity to bet bigger than block bet. I didnt have an other size on the river in my sim, but something like pot or ovb makes more sens, PP cant vb for this size because vilain comes with too much TT JJ QQ KK. Do you agree ?
About AT hand bvb on A74J4 . AT is mixing on the river, this Ax is calling at low frecs for obvious reasons, A2 A3 is calling 100%. I liked your thinking and your fold here, nice job.
Edit : You solved it at the end of the video. ^^
15:53 vs 1/4pot cu bb Qxxss , you fold KsTx vs a range bet. Is it an exploit on the pool here or you just decide to fold considering it is close ?
25;30 These spots are super hard to play IP OTT here, we see the solver calling a non linear range, prefering a hand like 99 rather than some Ax combos. When vilain is polarised like that, equity vs Value region seems to be more important.
I didnt run this one , so i dont know if what I said is wrong, but from my exp 99 may be called on the turn here. IG , I prefer to always call 99 against my 1k/2K pool, but the ev of calling is never super high, and can even be dramaticaly low against some opponents
A42 is not a range cb, but even vs cb range, the high xr explo strat is hard to execute.
30min I dont think bet 33 w/o d is good here. EQR of this hand in the betting line is really low, I think check 100% is fine in theory and in practice. You really prefer to have the 3d to have 2 clean outs + blocking some continues to bet here. 3/4 is fine, OVB seems fine too. What do you think the best size is OTR ?
Nov. 24, 2020 | 2:22 a.m.
K76 is a different board , because on this run out (6turn 7 river), you are going to chop against pocket 55, which is a high frec cb xc x hand. I expect the ev of xing with 22 to be slightly higher. But I think bluffing is still fine here.
About whether or not you are incentivized to bet small pp on the turn, it depends mainly on 2 things :
- better hands to fold
- Difference of your equity with these hands between checking line and betting line.
The 6 is a good cards to bet Ott because you are getting call by AQ AJ, but be careful with those small turn bet with pp, sometimes ev bet << ev x , and you can face people xr you aggressively on the turn, even if I think it’s not going to happen a lot by the pop.
15m AJo is a pure fold pre normally at those position. I guess on the river it could change a lot of things here.
Nice video , it’s nice to see someone not afraid to share his mistakes.
Cheers.
Nov. 9, 2020 | 1:17 p.m.
5min
On this board QJ7fd , don’t you think a polar cb strat as IP makes more sens here ? Our value region is basically a good TP, and we are not incentives to bet a lot of hands as protection.
37min30 K7hh , what are you bluffing on the river here ?
Nice video, thanks !
Nov. 4, 2020 | 10:35 a.m.
17:52 You said KJcc was a better combo to bluff than KJdd. However we notice in the sim you maid that KJdd is bluffing at a slightly higher frec .
How do you explain that KJdd>JKcc ?
42min last hand
I don’t like your thought process here, you started by arguing this river is not good to bluff because of your bad removal effect.
I’m convinced that to begin by thinking whatever or not the spot is good to bluff by focusing on what his call turn fold river range looks like is a better approach to maximize ev.
On a spot where vilain only have a few nuts combo and it’s likely that a rec doesn’t have top pair here due to your flop size , + he has too much weak bluffcatchers (Jx 8x), it’s from my perception and experience, a gold spot to bluff with a big size.
It would be difficult for a rec to reach mdf here, which going to make our bluff +Ev, and finally which makes the removal of our hand secondary.
Nice content, this format is pleasant to watch and study.
Cheers.
Nov. 2, 2020 | 11:21 a.m.
That was a super content. You are definitely better than last year (from my perspective) well done !
This format with pio in the background is really appreciated.
29min
How many sizing do you use on the turn/ river ?
Are you also bluffing ppS which don’t block to much of his folding range ? (Hands like 44-55 might be the greatest candidat I guess). Because Bwcc blocks Qx but also block a bunch of KK AK you are targeting.
Also, by betting, you make KJ near 0% equity against vilain s calling range. So this hand seems to play also well as a x turn, and let hands with 0%equity like 22-55 bet turn bet river.
I will check that one on PIO.
46min Notice that at equilibrium he has to call some frec of pp77-88 he was bluffing on the turn. Make sense but I never see someone doing that.
Related to the suits of QQ and 66 hands. Equity against calling range (you also have a blocker effect on strong calling (like AQcc on the QQ hand or 67hh on the 66hand)) seems more important than EQR and protection issues. That why Ev of xr without a heart < Ev or calling imo.
I agree those spots are pretty tough so, because if you change the spr of these 3b pot a little bit, protection becomes way more important, and not having BDFD also becomes important.
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Oct. 13, 2020 | 9:12 a.m.
Agree with that !
I was talking about the record, I found the sound quality pretty poor for this one.
Oct. 10, 2020 | 12:28 p.m.
I thought for a moment that you were honest :p .
I also think this video would be much better if simulations were add for other interesting hands (the 46dd for example), or other hands where only commenting is not enough for a good understanding.
Oct. 10, 2020 | 10:47 a.m.
This video is one of the best I saw this year.
Thanks !
Oct. 10, 2020 | 10:43 a.m.
Hey ! Great content as always !
11:13 Why you didnt include sizing <50% for oop player ? I think OOP player can definitely have some incentive to develop small bet Ott.
You let some some frec of 99/TT in the bb range, it is way too loose right ? Especially in rake environnement , but don’t think this is Going to change significantly simulations because it’s only few combos.
I personally like this format, but I think talking on all the turn and river on a specific spot is better for overall comprehension and learning.
Questions like that are always subjective. You have my thought on this one.
Sept. 28, 2020 | 3:13 p.m.
23 I like this sizing with AA. I think it’s a genius play to size up against good opponent, because for most players , it’s decrease your perceived value range : population tend to size normal AA , and size bigger AK when they need « protection ».
Also, it can turn some fold/BE rejam to +ev rejam If they think AA KK is not in SB range for this 3B sizing.
31 love this size. I agree with you that it looks quite suspicious (does AA really want to reraise?) but it seems more an exploit than a clear strat form C.darwin2 . If SB thinks that IP use too much trash hands to iso, imo : min reraise is a good sizing , allowing to have the best RR , and make your perceived range (against most opponent) stronger.
33:30 I don’t know how Sam plays his AJ Ato région pre flop,
but I think betting KQ here is not good. You only have one street against Qx and it’s the turn where you only want to bet polar. Also, when you x the turn you let an opportunity to Sam to drastically overbluffing, with all his JT T9 region on a blank and it’s for me the first element in the turn decision .
Notice that I play mid/high cashgame, so it’s possible that I messed up something or I don’t consider enough dynamic in tournaments.
Cheers.
Sept. 26, 2020 | 10:26 a.m.
Tx for this one !
21:57 You only construct your tree with a small ovb, can we use huge overbets here ? I guess if you let oop using 3xpot or AI on the river, it would change IP strat flop and turn, to avoid being exploited by OOP who can develop a huge betsize on some card.
48:21 Do you think an other raise size for oop should be use here ? Something around minraise or 2.5x , this strat allows us to put more pression to marginal hand , and also allows us to have a raise folding range. But on the other hand , I don’t think it’s a strat at these pos/spr.
Sept. 26, 2020 | 8:34 a.m.
Yes ! Thanks I corrected it.
Sept. 23, 2020 | 8:36 a.m.
How did you find this software ?
I really enjoyed this video also, this format is appreciated , and useful.
I learned some new stuff !
Thanks !
Sept. 23, 2020 | 6:29 a.m.
I’m always wondering why there is only a small proportion of mental content, whereas mental part is as important as technical part, and why it’s not as popular as some other videos. Maybe because it’s not something « funny » ? Or maybe because it shows us some default we don’t want to face ?
Really great video, your content is really a +ev part from RIO’s video.
Keep it going !
21m40 what did you think of Ovb / shoving here vs a fish ? You have a better fold equity on his 8x 77-66-55 and he doesn’t have so much 4.
I except him to think to donk with a trips sometimes, and also lead some 4x from times to times.
Aug. 20, 2021 | 7:08 a.m.