Vatal

“Going Deep on LLinusLLove” led my brain to some weird places…

Hey Teunuss,

you can't really use a sim for standard 6max non ante games and get reasonable conclusions for this 3bb+ante structure just because the rfi ranges look somewhat similar.

For example at 21:10 you use a 200bb sim CO vs BB to analyze the largely different spot you just played. The result was you trying to draw conclusions of a 36 SPR spot with IP having a CO 30% rfi range while in game you only had 13 SPR and a GTO BTN range for this structure is around 40%.

The strategy for your actual spot is a lot different. IP only cbet big or check, does not split sizes. In the check check line OOP leads your exact AhTc combo in this 6cc turn 82.5% of the time for half pot or bigger while in the sim you used it rarely bets. That's only two examples but you get the idea. You also analyzed a complete rainbow turn while in game it was a 2nd club but ok this is minor issue.

I don't want to sound too negative because in general I like your videos and your exploitative approach and it's nice to see some content on those ante games that are becoming increasingly popular, but I think it would be better if you were more conscientious and thorough in your analysis.

Cheers!

please record in higher video quality next time

Great vid! Elite content! Keep up!

Nice vid!

Please don't cut the pot size from the original video next time!

Great analysis as always! Keep up!

Hello,

in your first 5/10 misalignment window example(47:36):

For the backer to lose money, the stakee's winrate should be less than 5bb/100(backer gets less than 0.4*5bb/100=2bb/100 while pays 2bb/100).

The stakee can profit while the backer loses money between -3.33bb/100(the stakee loses 0.6*3.33/100<2bb/100 while gets paid 2bb/100) and 5bb/100.

In your second 25/50, misalignment window example (51:57):

The stakee has 17% of his own action and gets paid 1bb/100 or 50$/100.

He he will be profitable if 0.17*x +50>0 ⇔ x>-294.1 or if his winrate is more than -294.1$/100 = -5.882bb/100.

The backer loses money if 0.83*y-50<0 ⇔ y< 60.2 or if the stakee's winrate is less than 60.2$/100 = 1.204bb/100.

So if the stakee "breakevens" at -5.882bb/100 the backer(who also pays 1bb/100) loses 5.882/100*0.83+1bb/100=5.88206bb/100 or 294.1$/100.

Cheers.

Hello Elias, nice video! At 30:30, 84bb deep CO vs BTN, can you explain why you don’t want to have 4bet range that is not all in?

Thanks.

also interested guys, skype name: vatal-

thx

mb you should just ask them??

6:15 : Equity realization is not how often you get on the river, you also get denied equity on the river.

"If" is the key word dude. I didn't say he should always call exactly 1-A. You said :

It seems like Oddsen's bluff catchers should start at a hand like 88+ or perhaps A76 and he should 1-A from that point in his range in order to make EV(shove)=EV(check) for your bluffs.

So I just said he should not call the right frequency from that point(or from any point) in his range but from his whole range. Anyway I find your first post a bit ambiguous, so you may mean something else.

If he tries to call approximately 1-A frequency, he should call x% of his whole range not x% of his bluffcatchers.

Nice read!

Best of luck Phil!

Nice video Steve! It's a pleasant surprise everytime you release a theory video!

Hey Juan,

nice vid, nice concept.

Do you know if we can set a fixed strategy in PIO to calculate the EV against another fixed strategy like in Crev and if we can set a fixed strategy and let it calculate the maximun exploitable strategy against it?

thanks

19:00: In the method you are describing about deciding if we can valuebet, I think we have to count the flush combos he is raising on the river, then find the bluff combos he is also raising in order to make us indifferent, add the bluff combos to the flush combos and subtract them from the total combos he has to defend in order to prevent us from autoprofiting by betting any two.

If the difference of the substraction is less than the sum of the flush and the bluffraising combos we can't valuebet.

i.e. if he has 20 flush combos but he c/r 12 of them along with 6 bluffing combos, then he has to call 26(not only 20 since we lose our bet the times he is bluffing if he is balanced) or more worse combos than our hand in order for us to valuebet, therefore he needs to get there with 78 or more combos total.

If he has only 60 combos, he is calling 8 flush combos, raising 12 flush combos, bluffraising 6 combos and calling 14 worse combos than our hand, we lose the bet 26 times and win the bet 14 times.

Nice video, keep up!

Why we assume our opponent does have K-x when constructing our range, when he only has it some % of the time? That doesn't mean that we 're underbluffing the times he does not?
Shouldn't we assume that he has K-x the % of the time he actually does(in this case 42/75 or 56%)?

In this example doesn't matter since our opponent never calls when he doesn't have a K-x combo, but if the K-x combos weren't enough and he needed to add some other combos, he could exploit us by not doing that.

We can probably pay with skrill/neteller cards.

I will miss rio for some days, till I get them tho.

When you assign 4+ for range B, does it also include any pocket pair higher than 4s?

Nice to see some non plo stuff from you Phil, I miss that a lot.

49:26 KTo, it's a limp btw

If you are playing "your unexploitable rock paper scissors 1/3 of the time strategy" you are breaking even no matter the opponent's strategy, doesn't have to be the same.

I think stevejpa got it right here. 

In the last 3 examples of situations #4 and #4b we are making a flat out mistake by calling the shove w/o having the odds. It's like dropping the ev of the play on purpose to conclude to our point easier. 

That said, i obviously agree with your conclusion and I also enjoy the video as most of your videos.

Keep up

Nice work dude.

Keep us updated if they add the right stat or something.

At 33 min , QQJ9. I often use this check back turn , bet river line too but it seems quite transparent to me as a mid strength flush. How do you balance your river bet ?

Please always use headset when you record , sound quality is so much better.

Hand where you 3bet QT98ds and donkpredator 4bets you and you say he probably recognizes you isolating often the BU , is it more profitable that he 4bets you light rather than flatting and keeping the weaker player in the hand?

The ratio offsuit:suit is exactly 3:1 (12 offsuit combos and 4 suited for every hand).

Great vid tho!