Varrianda
21 points
I think river is a check as tom said. With no blockers to QQ or JJ, and since you have the both the Ac and Kd I think he had a lot less draws that he calls with here. I guess it's up to V if he's calling with JJ or QQ, because that's almost certainly what he has.
March 5, 2017 | 1:03 a.m.
So the proper way to play this hand should have been x/r flop, bet 25BB OTT so I can shove river and not allow BB to put me in like that where I ultimately have to fold. Was this a good spot to triple barrel though? I still butchered the hand, but if everything went well, is this an okay spot for it or am I looking at bluffs wrong?
V was slightly fishy, so maybe this wasn't the best person to bluff against, but flop is a super standard cbet, but OTT do I just x/f, or is continuing okay here. Also for sizings, is my river bet too large? I wouldn't say I'm "balanced" but I tend to take a similar line with all of my value hands that I want to get three streets out of. 1/2-2/3 OTF, 2/3-3/4 OTT, 80-90% OTR.
Two bonus hands if anyone enjoys reading and thinking about hand histories, these aren't spots that I'm super concerned about as I think I know how I should have played them.
Clear river shove? My only concern was a hand like AsQs/AsKs. He never has KK or AA obviously, so I really think the only hands I'm up against are like AsQs, AsKs, QQ, JJ, TT, and KsQs, and maybe some other shit draws. I don't think I get value from too much more, except JJ and TT. Thoughts? I would shove any non spade, A, or K otherwise. Also turn sizing could be a lot larger. 32-35BB.
Raise turn? I think calling river when the draw completes would be pretty bad. V is a pretty weak player(sat with sub 100bb stack and ran it up), so that was another reason for not wanting to call a somewhat larger river bet.
Feb. 15, 2017 | 5:24 p.m.
I don't have an answer, but wouldn't the proper play be for V to raise OTF if he had a set? Because of how many terrible turn cards there are?
I personally think just judging from Vs sub 100bb stack you should fold. I can't imagine he does this with anything worse than a FH. If he's actually just 100% terrible, he could have like A9/K9/J9/T9. But his line is fairly passive, and then he 2x overbet shoves.
Feb. 15, 2017 | 4:27 p.m.
Agree with brokenstar. Is he really double floating here with a naked king? Way too many draws on this board for me to ever want to consider folding this river.
Feb. 9, 2017 | 7:47 p.m.
Fish is strong when he min raises. I very rarely see fish minraise without something close to the nuts.
Feb. 3, 2017 | 3:42 p.m.
Is there any way you can switch to 2nl? Or do you have graphs showing that you smashed the stake so you moved up?
I'm a US player, and I found I played ignition way worse even though the games are "easier", just because of the money. $5 isn't a lot, but if you run that up to $20 in a session that can be a 20% increase in your bankroll, and losing it is super disheartening. I just found that it's much easier to play 2nl, because I don't have to worry about a downswing ruining my chances to play good poker. I'm a college student and don't currently work, so bombig $200 is a lot.
Feb. 3, 2017 | 3:41 p.m.
With that sizing on the river I'm really tempted to call, but I think V shows up with every combo of QJ, A4, K4s maybe if he limps suited kings, all straights and most flushes. So I think this ends up being a X/F OTR.
Feb. 3, 2017 | 3:32 p.m.
How come you didn't 4b this pre? Should be the second easiest 4b of your life.
Nov. 28, 2016 | 5:59 p.m.
Cry and fold river. Raise flop next time to charge his drawing hands. He's a fish and wants to gamble and you lost a lot of money by not raising.
Nov. 21, 2016 | 8:29 p.m.
Agreed. Call and reevaluate turn.
Nov. 21, 2016 | 8 p.m.
Agreed
Nov. 16, 2016 | 7:01 p.m.
Fold OTT. He has all sets, QKs, maybe 87s. Idk what he would be bluff raising here.
Nov. 8, 2016 | 3:52 a.m.
Hero is MP with 8.56 stack
Villain is UTG with 8.11 stack
UTG opens 0,1
Hero Flats
CO folds
BTN calls
Both blinds fold
Flop(0.37) 7d 2c Kc
UTG checks
Hero bets 0.23
I'm not sure if flop bet was good or not multiway, but my thoughts were UTG is probably weak (22-99, 67s+,A2s-A5s) given a minclick, and my plan was to barrel on any non club turn expecting UTG to fold a lot.
BTN folds
Villain calls, which I expected given the range I gave him.
Turn(0.87) Jh
Villain checks
Hero bets 0.51
UTG raises to 1.27
This is where I made the mistake of calling, and I think it's an easy fold considering I have only 2 outs that will give me the nuts, my other 4 outs(10c, any ace) can be dead to weird 2p hands, sets, and flushes.
River(3.37) 10h
UTG shoves
Hero snap calls obviously rivering the nuts.
Right after I won the hand though, I realized I was thinking results oriented, because I just stacked him with a 2 outter. Calling this turn raise is always -ev, correct?
Nov. 7, 2016 | 5:18 a.m.
Would it be check/call flop, bet turn, and check back river? Or do you think betting the river in this spot is the most +EV decision?
Nov. 6, 2016 | 5:52 a.m.
I'm currently reading grinders manual, and it basically shows a little chart that if a board is dry, I.E Qc 5d 7h we should bet a different sizing no matter our holding than if the flop was say Ad Qd Th. Let's say on both boards we hold AdAc, the first board (Qc 5d 7h) should be bet around 1/2 pot, while the wet board(Ad Qd Th) should be bet at somewhere around 70%-pot. Am I interpreting this right? Let's also say on both boards we have air, would we still bet 1/2 pot on the dry board, and 70-pot on the wet board? My bet sizings have almost always been 1/2 pot no matter the flop, so this is a new concept to me.
Oct. 22, 2016 | 1:50 a.m.
Well, the plus side to all of this is it really opened my eyes to how terrible I am lmao. I never thought I was THAT bad, better than your average fish. I guess I really need to focus on studying more, and doing it properly.
Oct. 19, 2016 | 4:27 a.m.
I mainly stay away from theory, and just watch live play and pause throughout the video and make decisions, then see if they made the same decisions as me, and if not, hearing why they made that decision. Steve Paul and Paul Atwal both do a very good job at talking through their decisions, only issue is a lot of it doesn't apply at the micros. Mainly bluffing after missed draws, and a lot of plays made to balance a range. I think my biggest issue is lack of volume. I've probably only played something like 15k total hands. I've read through a bunch of modern poker books, watched tons of theory videos that I can understand, looked into math, browsed poker forums daily for the last year just going through HH, I just haven't really sat down and committed to putting in volume and studying at the same time. Trying to change that now. I think in the mental game of poker he related poker to driving, you can read all the books you want on driving, and study all the laws, but until you actually go out and drive, you won't know what it's like. No clue why I went on this tangent, but I don't feel like deleting it now that it's typed out lol. Definitely going to check out that dudes channel though, because RIO lacks a lot of micro videos. Paul Atwal is really the only pro who has micro limit videos.
Oct. 19, 2016 | 1:13 a.m.
That's the gameplan. Planning on spending a few days every week not playing at all, and just going over hands and reading theory/watching videos here while taking notes. Like I said in an earlier post, I just started taking learning the game more seriously.
Oct. 18, 2016 | 1:56 a.m.
Lol whoops. I just always thought donk betting meant betting first into a pot OOP.
Oct. 18, 2016 | 1:10 a.m.
I should have rephrased how I said that. I've been working on paying more attention to stealing/defending more on button steals. Obviously I didn't shoot up in skill overnight, but I think being more aware of a potential issue has helped me work on what I need to improve. I was only playing something like 9% of hands from the BB which I think is a huge issue. It could be due to the small sample size, but I think that being more aware that I've been overfolding to steals has made me play at least a little bit better/aware from the BB/SB.
Oct. 18, 2016 | 12:14 a.m.
How do you feel about X/R OTF? And would you say donking is the best bet here? I usually refrain from donk betting, so I don't really know when to do it.
Oct. 18, 2016 | 12:03 a.m.
I've been working on defending blinds more, and stealing, and it's brought my win rates up. Still down, but my red line isn't crashing as hard anymore. And I know the sample is small, but I remember hearing you can spot major leaks in 2kish hands, so I didn't know if that was the situation here. Thanks for the indeptj reply!
Oct. 17, 2016 | 11:55 p.m.
Hero is BB with AA and a 2.32 stack
Villain is UTG with 2.5 stack
Villain opens to 0.06
Folds to hero who 3b to 0.18
Villain flats
Flop (0.37) 9d 2h 6c
Hero checks
Villain bets 0,24
Hero calls
Turn(0.86) Tc
Hero checks
Villain bets 0.54
River(1.93) 8d
Hero checks
Villain shoves
Hero calls
77+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,AJo+,KQo is the range I assume V is calling with. I ran equity test on this, and apparently I'm a little less than a 5.5 to 1 favorite. The only hands that really beat me are QJ, 77, 99, TT. I really feel like this is one of those spots where your hand is too good too fold, but it's a super marginal spot to call. Thoughts?
Thinking of it now, I should have raised OTF. Thoughts on that play?
Oct. 17, 2016 | 11:44 p.m.
How deep was he? 25BB? I don't have much experience in MTTs, but if he is only shoving AKo+ and any PP we only have 37% equity with AK . And if he is only shoving 88+ and AKo+ it's 41% equity. Obviously if you were short stacked, say 15BB I think it's a snap call, but being so deep, it's just not worth it. Still a chance I'm wrong though, because like I said I don't have much MTT experience.
Oct. 17, 2016 | 1:31 a.m.
I think shoving AKo with 35BB left is a mistake. I think if you're short <15BB it's on okay shove, but you're flipping too much, when you can just raise, and maybe call verse a jam from a short stack.
Oct. 16, 2016 | 8:55 p.m.
I had a 3k session of non zoom today, and I played profitable from every position, but the blinds absolutely smashed me. I have started taking poker a lot more seriously the last two weeks or so, and before this my longest session was maybe 400 hands, so putting in 3k in a single day was a lot for me. Anyways, I've been keeping track of how i'm playing using poker tracker, and from every single position I played profitably, but the blinds smashed my win rate to the point where I'm down 3BI. My red line is almost linear downwards, while my blue line is positive. I noticed what would happen is I would play in big hands, win a fair amount, then lose almost 25BB by just getting slowly blinded out as the hands went on. . I'm thinking I'm not stealing enough from the SB, and overfolding to BTN/SB steals,which may be my issues. I'm just curious though, is it common to get slammed by the blinds this much? Or am I just making too little from other positions to be profitable? Any help is appreciated, because I think this is a huge leak in my game.
Oct. 16, 2016 | 7:12 a.m.
lol variance is killer. Ran into this exact same spot just now, but I think I played it more optimally. It was runner/runner though for both jacks so it made decisions a bit easier. Still got slammed by quads.
Oct. 15, 2016 | 10:27 p.m.
Hero has 2.45 UTG
Villain has 1.35 BTN
Hero is UTG with KK
Hero opens to 0.06
Folds to villain who is button and he calls
Flop: Jd Jc Jh
Hero leads 0.07
Villain flats
I think almost any PP is calling here, and I think we can rule out aces because they will 3b.
Turn is 2h
Hero leads again for 0.14
villain flats
River is 6d
Hero checks
Villain bets 0.54
Hero calls
Now I got beat by quads, but this is never an incorrect call, right? We lose to AA and a J, and beat every other PP and A high which might just be calling with trips.
Oct. 15, 2016 | 7:18 p.m.
Checking is fine OOP. If hero was IP and be checked, that would be an issue.
I don't hate the call but I still lean towards folding.
Jan. 30, 2018 | 10:49 p.m.