
Adam Burke
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Another thing is you have no sd value so when all the draws miss if(when) he leads river you have to fold most likely except for an A. So if we check back and the river is a Qh and he leads for half pot do we call with A high? Genuine question. I feel it's close due to all the random 68** 89** random flush draws he can have with his preflop stats and how rarely lower limit players try to thin out value/slowplay flops.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 11:29 a.m.
Yeah I think you're right. He probably never peels a queen twice. But I think he peels most draws being that you 3 bet technically (vs the min raise) so in his loose fishy mind he probably thinks you have AA a decent amount and just judging by his preflop stats isn't likely to fold often in general.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 11:15 a.m.
Not sure why I can't reply directly to your reply. I'm new to this site.
Ah I see what you're saying now. I think the range of hands you're trying to fold out is too narrow (exactly AK) and your hand mildly too strong to make up for the lack of value the bet gives.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 11:07 a.m.
It's hard to get a flush to fold HU at these stakes I've found regardless of action for 100bb. You can get them to timebank, which is a mild consolation. Also I'm not advocating c/c twice as I don't know if opponent turns jtq draws or top and 2 pairs into bluffs. I'm interested in what better players think though about this spot as it seems to be a pretty common situation in general and a problem for beginners.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 9:40 a.m.
c/c'ing twice(turn and river) has to be better than shipping the turn. You want to keep his bluffs in his range and there is nothing he bet calls with that you beat it would seem.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 6:02 a.m.
I doubt he folds AK on the turn so I would just be trying to get to showdown. I don't think you should be so concerned about him having an optimal bluffing frequency on the river at these stakes.
Sept. 15, 2014 | 5:57 a.m.
Preflop seems loose to me especially with the co stack size. I'd bet turn half potish to get value from draws and queens.
His range is way too wide to fold here I feel. He should have all sorts of random shit that tight ranges dont have like Ak45:xxyz and can be value betting/blocking worse like 66,77, AK. Also you're getting >3-1 with that sizing so you have to be "right" <25% of the time. Also the flush draw missed and one would expect even a loose-weak player to raise the flop with 89 most of the time with the flush draw out there.
I do love paying people off though so I'm interested in alternative perspectives.
Also I agree that it's a weird/bad spot for him to bluff also given the flush draw missing and it being sort of hard for him to rep the nuts and therefore a decent spot to lead value I guess but he doesn't seem to be the type to be on that level.
Sept. 26, 2014 | 6:24 a.m.