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@30.40 - you open AQ in HJ and fold to a btn 3bet. I couldn't see the specific 3bet stats but villain looks like a 21/17/8 and possibly 3bet% on btn is 4.5%. I figure we aren't doing to well against a 4.5% range OOP, but if we are folding this, wouldnt this be a good combo to turn into a bluff? Or do you not have a bluff range against these type of villains? If not, what does your defending range look like in this spot?

Do you really think ATs is too weak to defend in the CO to a 3bet from the SB?? I thought that was a pretty standard call there? SB is usually playing a 3bet or fold strat and 3betting a 12% linear range. ATs has almost 45% equity against a 10% linear range here and we have position.

same here

That's a really really good point. I guess instead of using 12combos using 3 different combos of suited hands provides more variety. But what type of hands would you substitute for say AJo or KQo in these spots? Would you just chose the best suited versions you're folding say A9s or smaller Axs. Or the suited Kx/Qx

' I would just fold and never tell anybody' - comment made my day!

Another great video. I have a question about your comments regarding range and unsuited blockers. I tend to use these a fair bit both in 3betting bluffs in later positions vs EP opens and also as 4bet bluffs in EP. AJo is a good example where I'd flat the suited version and raise the offsuit version for these reasons. However your comments suggest you don't like this approach and I'm wondering if you can expand a bit on this?

at 20.00 min table 1 you 4bet KK and hit an Axx flop. Surely by cbetting here aren't you just folding out worse hands? Are you cbetting your entire range here if this is the case?

loving these videos - speed and format is great

Looks like villian has a lot of SD value hands when he checks this flop.
Turn could go a few ways I like a c/r with some frequency or the bet bet line.

I agree that the overbet not great on river. looks very bluff heavy. I prefer an overbet on turn more than anything.

I like this a lot. Considering flop x/r Betting turn seems best. Hero has like 9.50 behind on turn with a $7 pot. Considering any bet we make pretty much commits us and makes river sizing awkward i think its a jam on turn. Unless you think betting something very small will induce a shove but i highly doubt that.

Once you get postflop all the money is going in its beyond pointless to waste time worrying about a nuts vs second nuts cooler 3 handed. Just be safe knowing that you get the money when it goes the other way.

This is exactly why you don't post results.

Will watch in the next day mate. Do i just post feedback here?

Yo dddog I'll jump in on this too. Great idea.

So in for this!

Shut up and take my money SB

I don't mind betting turn with some freq as i don't expect villains to have too many qx and it's a card we'd bluff a lot so think at 50nl we can start expecting some calls with worse. I would use smaller sizings though and as the others said c/c is generally preferable.

You look like you just convinced yourself he had a fd or were scared of it. As bad as the turn bet/call was his play is spectacularly bad. How does he call kqo pre to a 4x and float that flop bet???? Wow

I like how you played this hand. There are virtually no kx in villains range and believe jj + gets it in pre. I think generally only losing to a flush and you win more by betting to get called by Ax/99 than you do by checking as those hands that call probably check behind.

Gold!

As a side question, playing so deep, what size would you make the 5bet? And what would you do if villain 6bet/shoved?

Interesting you discount his 4x; considering he looks like pretty fishy (not full stacked and 30/10) i would give him more 4x as he's more likely to open all A4o (edit - actually given the '10' maybe not).

However I don't expect him to have really any 4x on the river, i think he cbets anything that he gets to the river with that contains a 4 (like the above hands A4 and 45). Because of that i think you always have the best hand, and he's range is likely an ace, which given this type of player is never folding to any size, or a busted flush type hand that's not calling anything. Therefore i think just taking an exploitative line and going huge on the river.

Size up pre!!

I think your positions are out of whack? Are you CO??

Wouldn't be calling kjo against utg open from the CO if so, 3bet or fold.

As played size up each street so you have a nice easy river bet to gii.

Agree with Samu, I would just call for the same reasons.

And you don't have to call ever river raise to get reads. There will be other/better spots.

Also - you can review your database, depending on how big it is you might not get much of a sample, but start with looking at river re raises. What do you see? Is it extremely value heavy? Are there many bluffs? Even then dig deeper and do the same while looking at the similar lines and dry vs wet flops etc and similar spots. My own conclusions at the time, based on the evidence in my database, were that river reraises were nearly always value, sometimes people were incorrectly value betting worse hands but there weren't many that were bluffing or turning a hand into a bluff. And the few that were, were basically calling with draws on wet flops and missing. But suggest doing the same.

Sorry can't really understand you. But I've decoded that semi resemblance of a language and you're disagreeing with me and that's cool, we will agree to disagree. Sick knowledge? More like simply looking at the board texture and action in conjuction with experience with the population play coming to a conclusion. Poker is a game of incomplete information you realise?

To the OP, i would caution just looking at the absolute strength of your hand only! Stuff like 2p is hard to beat!! is just silly. It's the same as having the 2 of hearts on a 4 heart board and saying oh a flush is rarely beaten so call!! When really if you look at your 2p here, the only hand that you beat is a single pair hand and it's hard for villian to have single pair hand that plays this way. Instead of just calling to find out, i think a much better way to make decisions, is to look at the flop/board and ask yourself what worse value hands can I beat (in this case none), what bluffs can the opponent have (and here if you look at the flop and turn and the action, the fact that he calls your turn raise for instance, you can see there's very very little bluffs he can have here on the river) and then is the villain capable of bluffing (evidence/reads), from my experience 5nl zoom is much more value heavy than bluff happy ESP on the later straights. Reads to trump all though so if you know he spews then that changes things.

Gaucan i never said bet folding 2P was what caused my winrate to explode i said learning to fold to raises on late streets esp with just holding a bluff catcher.

Also it might rarely be that 2p faces a better hand but its not usually going to be the best hand where you're holding bottom 2 and get re raised all in on a river completing a draw at 5nl esp where villain has pretty much no bluffs. Id look at the action again. As i said heros bottom 2p is a bluff catcher here, villain is not shoving worse for value so if you think its more likely a villain at 5nl is shoving 67 as a bluff on the river here where it looks like hero is strong, over villian just has a better hand well, ok but long term think hero will see the difference.

Fine until river where you should fold to the raise. He's not raising a worse hand for value on this river and hard for him to be bluffing with this line. In fact at these stakes you can fold pretty much 100% in these spots and not worry about being exploited. Seriously was playing these stakes last year and as soon as i started folding to reraises on later streets especially with essentially bluff catchers my win rate exploded.

You could also think about leading turn or even raising flop depending on villian.

As noted bet bigger on flop. 2.20 or there is fine.

But then in saying that if you bet that amount and CO was still to raise 3x it would be 6.60 and there'd be like $11 in the pot and he'd have 3.50 behind so clearly it would be a shove or fold scenario.

Shove.

Clearly you cant fold in these positions. If you're folding aks to a min 5bet.....

You could call but then the SPR is less than 1 so not sure what being in position is going to do. You're going to want to see 5 cards.

Agree. I like it. Although not too sure on the river. He doesn't have any sets as they would gii flop or turn. His only two pair is 98s or k9s but even if he's calling allcombos pre theres literally one combo k9s of two pair he has now. He may call pre with some freq of ak. But he's range by the river is going to be pretty flush draw heavy, may be some JT and top pair (if he was terrible). So Basically think on that river you only get called by worse by shoving. But you set it up nicely so.