Terkel1896

Find the River spot messy SPR wise, I tend to max pressure Turn in these spots with the gutter and nfd with an overbet after the CR to set up River 75% pot shove.
With no reads on villain I tend to stick to this plan.

I guess generally not a fan of stacking off 177bb eff with QQ in this spot and will be folding River without more reads than what you have given. Whats villains 4bet stat, his 3 barrel stat, his bluff River frequency?

interesting line too, I´m torn :)

omg I´m such a noob, first I delete my comment when wanting to reply and then I flag DDogs comment when wanting to reply to his comment :)))
Find it interesting that you guys don´t have a 4bet shoving range 100bb eff with 23bb out there in dead money, guess there is some merit in not letting our opponents play "perfectly" pre vs us but having a hard time to imagine that there aren´t loads of guys out there who call off with JJ+ and AK.

3bet oop pre is too small.
Why check call a flop you almost can't hit better? If check then to CR him big. Your hand has so much equity >50% against almost any of his holdings that playing it passively is a bad idea imo

The small Flop bet is fine imo on a dry flop like that. You would want to be all your misses with overcards equally small.

For what reason are you checking T? I´d rather bet T and check back R when you are going for 2 streets of value. On the T he can have picked up a FD, call again with small pp or e.g. 78s becomes double gutter. Lot of River cards that will not make him pay a bet with his small pp not to mention his draw misses.

@ Dddog, read through your thread. As you know I don’t get when you guys are trolling or not and if, for what reason.
Hence I won’t comment on that. :)
On the hand I´d actually shove Pre instead of 4betting 3x as we aren’t that deep and I wouldn’t want to give the guys, especially BTN who already shown he likes to call a raise a look at the flop and being able to fold JJ+,AK on the Flop. With the expected Flop SPR to be less than 1 I don’t have any/much post flop playability anyway

The early bird catches the worm they say :)

yeah, his shoves makes zero sense with value. I´ call any day of the week ending with a y and be pretty happy about it. GG :)

With the eff stack size, if you call T you cannot fold R. Hence don't really dislike the Turn shove as he won't fold his draws, A9x, some pp smaller than yours on the Turn, but might do so on River. Sometimes you run into higher PP or Tx but nothing to do about it.

Same here, very interested. send me a PM NL50-100 6max

Hej DjuNKell,
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Keep up the good work

BvB and you state no history, don't see much merit in "trapping". Barrel through. BB has plenty on Tx with backdoors, Broadways, random floats that may turn equity.
As played, I´d keep trapping Turn and cc any 3,7 or spade river. CR all other run outs

Yeah, have fun and if not comfortable doing all the european style 4-5-6 bet pre stuff take those guys to the streets as a certain jcarver tends to say ;) GG and GL

TT+ I´d shove

Gotta fistpump shove this, assuming you shove whole range here.

if the guy is a resident in nittown, fold. :) Otherwise ship it pre, can´t see the merits in flatting. If the big stack doesn't push you off pre, you will find yourself in tough spots this shallow on the flop just like you did, not knowing what to do and most likely making even bigger ICM mistakes by folding or calling.

This is a prog KO. ICM is not really interesting in this spot specifically and generally first very short handed on FT in my opinion, way more interesting are the KO bounties on the shovers and BBs head, as those are the two you cover. How much were they?
Depending on size you could get a better idea of villain shoving range (bigger bounty on the BB bigger incentive to shove as its the only guy he covers) , I´d assume though that they´d be big enough to more than justify a call/reshove as villain should be shoving his whole range maybe apart from QQ+ (lot of players try to get cute with big pairs even as shallow as he is), so AJo becomes a fist pump call in most cases with the overlay in chips you get from the bounty imo

agree, if you call pf at least peel his 40ish% pot cbet and reassess turn. You have backdoor sd and most likely two 9s and three Ks as clean outs additionally to potential diamond bluff cards. Especially against a thinking player like you seem to say he is. If villain would be a recreational guy or unknown the fold is way easier.

Salute,

I´m on boat with taking the craising line on the turn, on the flop vs two players our hand is not strong enough to do that and we will more often than not be looked up by a better tp or an op as we will be often perceived as having a fd with gutter or oe.
As played I don't know if I can find a fold on the river vs his rip, on my good days :) I´d cry and fold especially with a guy behind you still to act, as villain is repping boats, 67spades or air only.

mmmh, you get me thinking....right, against a nutted range we only have ard 41% equity otf and roughly 1.5 potodds when shove gets called, so it might be closer EV wise than I first thought. Nevertheless there are AK and AQ combos along with smaller pairs with or without one diamond I wouldn´t be unhappy to fold out. So agree that its thin vs his calling range, but should be enough fold equity to be gained from the hands that beat us/chop with.

you close the action pre, have pos on the sb post flop and need to call ard 5500 pre to win 14300, if you add AK,AQs to sb range apart from only QQ+ you have more than enough equity to make the call. Obviously not loving life :)

Hej,
I think I´d be pretty unbalanced in this spot.
As the tournament is the nightly I would assume that your opponent (Sifosis) is not playing a massive amount of tables anymore and will be able to focus more on his remaining tables.
Hence if I lead with your exact hand or similar small flopped flush I´d overbet pot or actually better rip it in, yes this might turn my hand face up (what is villain gonna do about it? and leading 2/3 actually does same), but there are 13200 chips out there, which is almost 1/3 of what you have behind.
I´d be happy just to add those to my stack right now and denying my opponent to realize any of his equity (real or implied bluff equity).
Against a player like Sifosis who I think is very proficient and aware one needs to deny him the options to win the pot apart from showing down the nuts or very strong holdings.
When you 2/3 pot lead on the flop, he can float flop and realize some of both parts of his equity. As played, when the turn brings another heart and you check to him, he can bet small and in case you call jam most rivers as he has more Ah and Kh in his range.

I like your line more if this would be in the middle of the MTT shedule where you can be sure that most regs or in your case crushers :) will be auto-piloting due to heavy multi-tabling and make less plays against you.

Anyway, lets discuss.

Cheers

Squid always has to shoot for funniest guy at the table, easy win :) gotta love it