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I didn't run the sim for for that long. I had it run until exploiatable for 0.11% of the pot though. This produced an EV for OOP of $6,122 whereas Paul's sim produced an EV of $6,079.

So you are right that the difference in this case is negligible, in which case it's definetily easier to employ a pure strategy.

Hi Paul, thank you for your reponds.

Personally, I I give Pio the option of multiple bet sizes in order to figure out which one is the prefered one/the one with the highest EV.

Like you, I'm not really trying to employ a stratigy with multiple bet sizes myself but rather simplify and going with one size, obv depening on the preflop action and board texture.

You are right that in some situations it would then make sense to do a resim with just that one bet size. However, often/some times it is not really neessary as Pio will have the other bettting options approximate 0% usage and thus those parts of the game tree will be almost empty anyway. Obviously, this depends on how long you run the sim for.

In the hand between Berkey and Garret, Pio rather quickly had the 33% and 50% bet size options that I gave it, drop below 1%.

In the sim for the hand that you show in the video, you had only given the option of a half pot C-bet, which I thought seemed off and would produce vastly different results than when/when also given the option of a small bet size, which I mostly see and use in this situation.

Now you could argue that I'm also limiting the game tree by not giving Pio even more bet sizes to choose from, and that would be correct. In fact, it is very likely that Pio would find an even smaller bet size to be higher EV in this spot.

In generel though, I try not to assume to know what the right betsize(s) is(are) and thus give as many options as my 64 gigs of RAM allow for.

I really like the idea of these kinds of videos and I enjoyed the content.

However, you need to allow for multiple bet sizes, especially smaller sizes for the OOP 3better. Otherwise you risk the good old, garbage in = garbage out.

The first hand between Berkey and Garret for example, you say that you were suprised to see that Pio wants to check almost the entire range. However, Pio actually wants to use an overall mixed strategy of close to 40% cbetting and 60% checking, when given the option of betting 25%, 33% and 50% on the flop (and Pio unsurprisingly prefers the 25% bet size).
These results are based on the ranges that you show in your video and allowing for multiple betsizes across all streets for both players, including overbetting the turn and river (I used 50%, 67%, 100%, 150% and 200% plus all in for turn and river).

So just be wary that you risk drawing false conclusions, when you limit the game tree too much and don't allow for the most natural cbetting size.

I hope this doesn't come off too negatively - Keep it up :)

Hi Phil,

On the 252r flop you C-bet about 1/5 pot and thus give your opponent about 6 to 1 pot odds on a call. I think I really dislike this sizing because we give our opponent good odds with his double pair hands. Of course, he would need more than 6 to 1 to hit four outs but with the implied odds he can very comfortably and profitably call with two pairs in the hole higher than fives.

So when we do flop trips or better I think we set ourselves up to lose a lot of money this way. In fact, even when we “only” have the big overpairs he can probably also play double pair hands passively (just calling the flop) with a profit, since he most likely will get us to put the required ~1300 dollars more in the pot in order to make the call on the flop profitable.

True, he will lose a lot more when we hit a bigger boat, with say a queen on the river, but I think that is made up for by the money above and beyond 1300 dollars he wins when we have flopped trips or better (excluding quads obv).

For these reasons, I prefer a bet sizing here with my entire range of 35-50% of pot here. What do think about that?

I am definitely no poker genius so my thinking might be way off. I should probably also mention that our opponent can of course also play these hands aggressively giving him more ways to win the pot. What the consequences of a say 40% C-bet are in that regards are, that I am not really sure off. It obv makes bluffing costing more – although it might also look more credible when he raises.

Oh and btw - excellent videos :)

I completely agree with the above. Recording and then commenting after the fact seems to be the way to go. It also seems to give a more honest and well thought out commentary i.e. the hand at 26:00 vs. Kimokh.

I would probably crai on the turn.
As played, I excatly think you made a good fold on the river.

Apparently you are right against the ranges I assigned, but folding KJT9 double suited just seems so wrong :(

Thank you very much for your answer.

It seems that you are absolutely right about the range domination and different hand equities.

In the actual hand I was actually drawing to my dangler in order to scoop.

Whether the river bet is good or not obv depends on whether it will BB fold better (flushes). We are turning our hand into a bluff.

It is very unlikely BB has a boat the way it the hand was played and given that you block all of them.

Since you have the As and block all boats and BB is nitty with hero calling I think the bet will succed in making him fold medium flushes often enough to make the bet good.