Ruysvogel
1 points
Hey, nice video. I'm interested in a lot more videos that take this kind of approach esp using CRev cause its a program I struggle a lot with.
Few questions:
At 10:53: you say cbetting is better at 164 vs 131, I assume those are numbers you read of the popup in CRev? Just a tip for future videos, make sure you dont hover over stuff too quickly (or alternatively present the numbers in a simple notepad or something), esp doing math cause its very hard for the viewer to see the conclusions the program makes.
In the 2nd hand, when we say he has no bluffrange and no valuerange(aka never jamming a hand like AQ, QJs, 33 and never jamming AA/KK/55), in the video you make it sound like the two cancel each other out when doing the math for a spot like this. However is this not extremely favourable for our exact hand when determining if we can raise or not?
Cause if he 3bet jams river with a range of AA/KK/55 and 33 and we call we loose a lot more chips on average.
And if he 3bet jams river with a range of AA/KK/55 and 33 and we fold we loose a bunch of chips due to the fact we get bluffed off the best hand a considerable amount where we would have won the pot with a call. Edit: also if we raise/fold we still lose a lot more vs hands that beat us cause we put in a 1000 chips more than we would have with a call.
May 16, 2015 | 10:46 a.m.
PokerStars Hand #134374970879: Tournament #1196751739, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1000/2000) - 2015/04/27 3:36:10 CET [2015/04/26 21:36:10 ET]
Table '1196751739 49' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jambeyang (68056 in chips)
Seat 3: Zackattak13 (40826 in chips)
Seat 4: Stev0L_ (61402 in chips)
Seat 5: harrrrmonica (133168 in chips)
Seat 6: nilsef (30276 in chips)
Seat 7: ActionFreak (107463 in chips)
Seat 8: PearlJammer (27746 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (61109 in chips)
jambeyang: posts the ante 200
Zackattak13: posts the ante 200
Stev0L: posts the ante 200
harrrrmonica: posts the ante 200
nilsef: posts the ante 200
ActionFreak: posts the ante 200
PearlJammer: posts the ante 200
BillLewinsky: posts the ante 200
nilsef: posts small blind 1000
ActionFreak: posts big blind 2000
* HOLE CARDS *
Dealt to Hero [Jd Ac]
PearlJammer: folds
Hero: raises 2200 to 4200
jambeyang: calls 4200
Zackattak13: folds
Stev0L: folds
harrrrmonica: calls 4200
nilsef: folds
ActionFreak: calls 2200
* FLOP [9s 6c As]
ActionFreak: checks
Hero: bets 11449
jambeyang: calls 11449
harrrrmonica: calls 11449
ActionFreak: folds
TURN * [9s 6c As] [5d]
Hero: checks
jambeyang: bets 52207 and is all-in
harrrrmonica: folds
Hero:
My image has been fairly active, they have seen me get involved a bunch and the table has been in this formation for quite some time and we've been trading pots a lot.
We've just hit ITM and I'm interested in this spot not just in this specific hand but how we should approach our overall range play in these type of situations.
Reads:
Jambeyang would flat a wider range than a usual reg here, his 3bet % is considerably lower and he flats more often than others anyway. I have a hard time quantifying what his range would be exactly. If I had to geuss the weakest hands he would flat here are 55/A10s and maybe a few sneaky suited connectors. Including a bunch of strong hands to induce action behind.
harrrmonica had also been flatting a lot, spot where I think he 3bets mostly for value, his range can be extremely wide here.
Actionfreak, not very squeeze/3bet happy - his range is obviously super wide getting an awsome price OTF.
Considerations:
The main difficulty I have on these type of flops is that I can't think of a way to not look very strong and still protecting our hand vs a fair amount of hands. Obviously when we cbet here we just hope to get in vs some straight/flush draw but it feels like a stretch to get value from many hands worse than ours - I think all 3 of them would give serious consideration to folding A10 when I cbet here.
Another option is check/jamming which I dislike for multiple reasons (checked behind often and gives a way a lot of equity). Also I doubt that is going to get us looked up lighter.
I'm interested in your thoughts on this hand in particular (do we jam turn etc?) but also how you guys generally approach this spot where we are in a multiway pot with low stack to pot ratio and a medium strenght hand.
So this two part video was just an elaborate setup for a bad beat story? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
June 25, 2015 | 8:09 p.m.