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How does not seeing cards at showdown help the integrity of the game? Wasn't there a big collusion ring of squeezing people out of the pot with ridiculous hands? Doesn't this just benefit the cheaters? Now we don't know if they are working with someone else or if they just had a big hand and made a big fold or not.

13:30 is just stupid. Playing a 0.1bb bomb pot!?!?! This site seems like crap! At least do a 1bb bomb pot. I can't understand making the pot smaller than the blinds. Really expect everyone to go nuts playing for a SB?

10min Hero SB vs LJ SRP OOP PFC on T99cc. You mentioned only AT+ is raising, so we want to use a bigger XR size being polar to 9x. I also think of this spot as high bluff allowance (HBA). Where we have plenty of bluffs to choose from that require more FE, so we use a larger size to increase our FE. Smaller XR size just requires us to expand our value region to more TX hands to balance out the value : bluff ratio.

8:30 I was trying to figure out if there are certain suits that are better to delay cbet this turn. SCs do not want spades unblocking AXs hands. Off suit hand like JTo I'm not seeing any betting, but QJo does have some betting. Maybe because ATo pure folds preflop? But QsJx seems to be preferred here. How are you choosing your off suit hands postflop when betting 2/3 or X on this turn?

5min I like the heuristic of turning Ax into bluffs on the turn vs EP raiser on this K84-2 board. Tighter formations require more SDV bluffs.

5:40 preflop BvB on wizard I see 55 checking option at 40% on wizard. What sim are you looking at for 55 to be a pure iso? What Iso range would you use if EP-BTN open limped and you were OOP?

If you are more capped on flop and turn then you need a texture changing river card to bluff.

After grinding a million hands online during covid until mid November or so 2022. It took me a really long time to accept or learn this concept. I still see people over bluffing all the time because they have low SDV. Having a texture changing card is so important. It just makes me laugh when I see someone barreling off a missed draw on a brick river. "I used to do that" I thought to myself.

In live poker, I forgot what video it was, but talks about how live players don't think in ranges very often. Referring to recs at least. They just try and bluff high cards pretty often. If you see a rec take a XC-XC-Donk line when there is a missed flush draw on the board like 962cc-3x-Qx It's mostly just some missed draw.

wizard link really fascinating actually. If we check and IP jams, which villain's hand is jamming high frequency. 55 for hero is made indifferent, JT mostly folding. We just call mostly 88, TT, Q9, AQ, flush, etc.

Where if we donk jam the river now IP has to start folding JJ, TT, Q9s, 97s etc. I do think we get a lot of folds here even in live cash if we take a XC-XC-Ai line.

Solve might be a little off as the main hand that was jamming is a hand like 7c6c, but also some bluffs from 9c9x.

35:30 great sizing by the button on this T85cc-Jx board using something like b125-B125 more of a geo3 size SRP IP PFC. I think value hands like 88/55/97s/Q9s gain max value with these geo sizes. Puts OOP in a blender with entire range. Besides the nuts not a single hand really feels comfortable in this spot. What do we do with a hand like AcQx that floated the flop and now has double gutter or KdQd and even over pairs? Its just a really hard size to play against.

Do we ever want to donk shove this river? As you mentioned we have a lot of AQ or XcXc in our range here. AT you mentioned is a blunder to call the turn with because we have QT/T9 etc. I assume 2 pair maybe sets are made indifferent if we donk shove this river?

20 min on this KJTss-Khh board you mentioned a lot of your strong hands are going to float bet the turn after OOP used a small flop bet, but slow play more often if OOP used a bigger flop cbet size. On wizard trips, straight, & boats are checking back 40% of the time on this turn. I think we should be less capped than we think. A lot of KX isn't too interesting in shoveling money in and facing a XR.

There was an old Gary Chapelle video that talked about when he is OOP and uses a bigger size on the flop he continues to barrel the turn more frequently because he already condensed IP range. When OOP uses a small cbet size, then IP has to float wide, so on the turn OOP will do a lot more checking because IP has so much air in their range that has to bluff. I think this is why we should not bet too many strong hands on the turn. Wizard Link is checking 58% of the time on the turn to the IP player after a B20 flop cbet size.

13:30 on AT5-Q being a range check turn spot reminds me of another spot KQ8-A turn. Where AQ does a lot of checking back! Have to be careful on these boards even with 2 pair hands. This was my hand where I barreled turn and got XR and solver is doing a lot of folding with AQ here. I also saw a video with Nacho where he barreled AQ on the same board as yours and folded to the turn XR. I think as humans we might over value 2 pair hands on these triple broadway boards.

44:10 is this a glitch on ACR? You can top up during a hand? You have 67bb but whenever you raise you have a 100bb.

On the river wizard has your combo as a pure check. -5.94 EV to shove. I don't understand the suit selection here. Are we just not supposed to bet missed spades? But then KsQc pure bets and KcQs pure checks. A bit confusing here.

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27:45 Definitely a blunder to call with villain's hand. Folding 60% of the time on the turn as well.

mx404

Do you play limp-raise?

I tried this only for a couple of weeks. I am playing in a 9 handed game, so similar to over limping or iso raising I would also use some open limps. AsAx-2s2x I would RFI, no spade I would open limp and then mix in limp raises with AA-99. Red suited broadways open limp. Black ones RFI. But majority of the time I wasn't able to limp raise. They were just limping behind me. Some times someone would make it 10bb squeeze and now I felt very unsure about limp raising with AQ, JJ, KQs etc. I didn't think it was working too well. And I think most people just get scared of limp raises, so probably better not to do it with AA/KK actually. The one time I got AA to work was I over limped LJ, HJ over limped, Co made it 10bb. Initial limper cold called and I wasn't sure how to 3bet to a size that was less than 1/3 of my stack, so I elected to just shove and everyone folded. So once in a great while you pick up 10-20 extra BB. Maybe I could of made it 30bb still. I thought 30bb was a lot stronger than just shoving.

19:30 Given UTG player doesn't fold to 3bets, previous hand he called with K3c. You thought it was better to flat here and play a small pot vs the fish. Any merit to 3 betting to get the fish heads up to yourself? Avoid playing 3-4 way and stop one of the regulars in the blinds from 3betting and and squeezing you out of the pot?

If we flat lets pretend BB comes a long as well. So now we play a 9.5bb pot 3 way. If we 3bet, we can go smaller like 7.5bb (2.5x) now we can play a 16.5bb pot HU vs UTG. Which situation is better?

17 min I think I have asked you about this several times as well as some other coaches. I have had a mixture of advice on this spot dealing with limpers.

1st coach will say iso entire range.
2nd coach will say iso roughly a CO range and trim the fat, some thing half way between CO & HJ.
3rd coach will way iso only hands you will usually 3bet with and fold other wise. Treating the limper as if they raised 2bb.
4th advice is 1st one limper ISO CO range, vs 2 limpers ISO HJ range, vs 3 or more limpers iso LJ range.

None of the advice has really been to just over limp this spot, which I started doing about 2 weeks ago. I would iso a 3bet range pure, then hands like QsJx I would iso and QxJx (no spade) I would over limp. I started doing stuff like iso off suit hands with a spade and suited hands spade or clubs for SCs.

In reality I'm probably just making it too complicated. I don't want to face a 5x iso if I over limp. If I iso 3-4bb the person who ISO would just call, but they feel obligated to iso themselves with hands like A7s KJo 77 etc. It gets tricky with a hand like 66 where if we ISO 4bb they will only call or fold behind us majority of the time unless they have a top 5% hand. Where if we over limp a hand like 66, now they only call 4bb and we save ourselves 1bb from limp calling.

Would you say we can just pure ISO 77+ AJ+ KQ+ 9Xs+ and over limp everything else that is in our CO range? What about hands like A6s, 97s, JTo, K5s, etc? Are we over limping these and folding if someone iso behind us?

Would you say I can iso everything that is top 12% (100% frequency in yellow) then over limp everything that is 50% frequency in this chart? Would you go wider than this for your over limps? I'm basically taking the top 50% of the CO range to ISO with and over limp the other 50%.

11:35 In this straddle pot where CO iso to 13bb or 6.5 straddles what would be your 3bet size? How are you approaching this spot if you know the CO will iso to 8bb (4 straddles) with weaker hands and this 13bb (150% PSR) is only the stronger portion of cutoff's range? I hate giving these players extra money where most of their range is JJ+ AK when they go this big.

When you talked about the 4bb opens being bad and you have to play really tight to use that size. Any merit to using that size to bloat the pot against people that don't 3bet very often and you get to realize your equity? If they call too much and play more fit or fold postflop. Then raising larger and cbetting 33-50% pot is just auto profit right? Get to play more 2-3 way pots rather than 4 way pots.

99% of my volume these days is live cash. The one spot I found straddles to be appropriate is when you have a whale in 1-2 spots to your right and you are looking to play more pots vs them. Other than that the straddles just make the game much tighter. People are willing to call 3-5bb say $15-$25 in a 2/5 game with 88-22, SCs, AXs, etc. But when the straddle is on they are not calling $30-$50 with that same range. The straddle tends to tighten ranges and makes people play better.

Thanks for the explanation on the board pairing card vs a river ten.

The two charts though are the same runout but one has 353% pot and the other one is capped at 100% pot. They look very similar in range construction even thought the size is 3.5x bigger! I expected the betting frequency to be a lot less using a 3.5x size! Using 350% pot or 100% pot doesn't seem to matter too much.

In six max I found these spots to either bet nutted or hands like Jh8h for a combo draw. Where they won't bluff the river with hearts so they play B33-B150-X unless they improve. Then more naked draws like KJo they will just use B33-B75. Great spot to deny equity if you have a set or straight yourself. Where we know we are not playing any folds on the river, so given the SPR on the river it's best to just deny equity now. Maybe only slow play a straight with a heart.

How much EV do you lose if you just range bet K22? Only lose EV if OOP plays a heavy XR frequency?

there are even some 9 high calls going on at equilibrium.

Kind of crazy to see so much mixing going on from King high to 9 high here. I think I would want to unblock all 8 high and lower cards. Maybe J9 and higher for calls. Mainly 3x with a low card that gets counterfeit being turned into bluffs.

Mentally do you think you try and make more of these hero calls on the river given there is no more action on later streets compared to not being a hero with 55 on 762dd? I think I have this hero call problem on the river where I know I wouldn't defend correctly on earlier streets. Idk if its mental or strategic adjustment.

I tried to compare the custom Ai sim for the b25-b100 line with river being b67 or Ai 353% as you ran in the video for btn vs bb. Then trying to answer my own question about using a smaller size only B100 or X. The range construction on the right seems to be the same as the left even though the size is smaller. The frequency only shifted from 46% checking to 50%. You can see some hands like K9o, Q5s, & K2s not bluffing any more, but not a huge shift. Both ranges were still betting 43-44 combos.

I expected the range construction to change a little more than this given the size is 3x smaller. Can you explain why the bet size 100% didn't have much of an impact on the range construction compared to 353%? Or was it because the solver was using 2 sizes 353 & 67 before? Where only 353% had 31 combos in it and 67% had the other 14 combos.

22:45 you mentioned because we are bluffing a lot of QT JT etc on the turn that we drill this river T! So we are allowed to bluff a lot more. If we are not valuing betting Ax or Tx on the river, it's a bit confusing why this Ten is so good for us besides J9 & 96s making a straight or some 2 pairs. Top pair is checking back 100% here.

Is this only a good card to bluff when its 350% pot? If we chose a smaller size is the solver going to not bluff as much? Because we are not making top pair indifferent for 100% pot?

8:30 the toy example of AA/44 vs 99 on 22223 is a fantastic illustration of how bluff catching works. The fact you ONLY increased it 1% to make 99 a pure call or pure fold is eye opening!

Many years ago I saw a video where the coach talked about facing a PSB we have to defend half our range for MDF. We can see a slight over fold here on wizard at 53%. The coach said when bluff catching we don't just call the top 50% of our range, but 50% of it is based on the top half of our range and 50% is based on blocker properties.

In this sim there are about 132 combos where we have to continue with about 66 of them to avoid being exploited. We would call the top 33 combos that dominate some of their value, then defend another 33 combos based on blocker properties.

Have you heard of this before?

matlittle thanks for the screen shot. Betting 6h5x 6x5h here makes a lot of sense as OOP will XR-X with a lot of bdfd and having a rainbow turn unblocking all the XR-XF hands where they don't pick up equity is a simple heuristic. IP usually barrels the turn suit unblocking bdfd that XC-XF so vs XR-X it appears to be the same. If Tyler played XC-X I'm sure having a heart on the turn with your OESD is best with both lines.

I just wanted to point out that HCL switched companies and no long has access to hole cards in real time. If you check the HCL Tracker website. You can see Luda played consistently on HCL and no other stream up until the point that Ryan no longer had real time access to hole cards.

January played 5 times
February played 3 times
March played 2 times
April played 6 times
May played 3 times
June played 3 times
July played 3 times
August played 3 times
September 0
October 0
November 0

Some time after August HCL no longer had access to the hole cards. Why did Luda stop playing?

Just an easy 28 sessions for nearly half a million in a $25 ante game. Each stream is roughly 5hrs long and Luda makes a pretty consistent $3k+ per hour. $25 ante game is similar to 50/100. Does 30bb/hr seems like a normal win rate to you playing 2/3 of your hands?

Maybe Garret was right 14:40 of spaces.

32min 4BP with QsJs on 5433sscc with QsJs PFC XR-B line. Are you barreling flush draws very often in lower stake games? I find they rarely cold 4bet and when they continue to a XR its just AA-QQ or AsKs type of hand. Feels very uncomfortable barreling this turn and just getting jammed on with a flush draw. I'm fine with the XR on the flop, but once OOP filters IP range and our FE is very minimal. I don't see the point in barreling. I was thinking we XR-XC-donk on certain rivers.

34:40 3BP OOP B50-X-B50 line. What do you think about playing B50-X-XRAI on the river? I assume Qx is probably going to make a value bet. Do you think the line is so ridiculous that we don't get any folds or so terrifying they only call flushes? If you did face a B50-X-XRAI line in villain's shoes what hands would you call off with?