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T#1 34:20 TT btn vs BB 3b. Only 4 bet vs SB because of the linear range, then because BB is more polar, we don't want to 4bet TT? We use linear vs linear and polar vs polar when 4 betting IP?

Same hand I'm a bit speechless! Flop you were not liking it vs the XR. But made a comment about you didn't call preflop to fold on a flop like this. Going from close to folding to shoving the river for value in a BC-B-B line feels like suicide. I think this hand demonstrates why its better to call TT vs BB 3B range though. On some low boards where BB has some high-low card 3bets preflop, they end up leveling themselves. There are so many levels to this hand. Most interesting hand of the video mentally I think. Once I face the flop XR, I'm frozen! Just trying to get to showdown cheaply.

19:45 T#1 it's interesting that your ISO size vs limper is bigger than your 3bet size.

24:40 T#4 AKJcc-4x-5x 3BP IP PFC. Is b70 your only river size here? What is the bottom of the value range? Can we bet any AX here for this size? I struggle to pull the trigger in some of these spots because it looks so bluffy. What hand is worth B70 on the river, that is not worth betting the turn? Unless we check all of our AQ/AT/A9s on the turn and polarize to 2 pair+. I think its a really interesting river spot.

*After checking this spot on wiz, 2 pairs, and QcTc type hands are checking back the turn about 1/3 of the time, so we still have plenty of value on the river. A lot naked flush draws were pure checking back the turn. Also BB has to find some hands like KTs, QQ, KQo etc to call the river with. I would want to bet more AX than the solver here as I don't think OOP is going to protect their B-X-X range with enough strong hands.

T#1 17:55 K7s on 743ccc-Kc BvB. Are you playing range check on this low mono board? Ran this through wiz and the A7s, K7s, & Q7s were high frequency bet. If you do play XC, then the turn was high frequency donk bet with 2 pairs, sets, flushes etc. SB range for XC just becomes so condense to strong hands that the draw completing favors us.

You also mentioned you want to lead less often on high clubs. On turn reports most clubs were pretty equal for donk frequency. The 6c & 5c less often as it completes the straight flush. I honestly don't know what to do vs a raise or what to do on the river if my turn bet gets called though. Even with the Jc in my hand I would feel a bit uncomfortable betting the river, which its probably a pure bet with any broadway club.

5:00 T#4 83d when you 3bet jam the river do we ever get called by worse? The 3bet jam vs the XR feels too thin to me. Increases the redline, but idk if it increases the profits. I guess if we find enough 3bet bluffs.

5:45 T#2 88 3BP IP BTN vs HJ. Fold to a pot size donk bet on 763dd. You mentioned "what are the chances he folds the turn?" Can't we just win even if he doesn't fold? Maybe he plays BBX with missed diamonds? Are you folding TT-88 no diamond and continue JJ+ and flush draws?

10:12 T#2 76c on 842dd-5hh why are we depolarizing vs a XR-X line? Wouldn't Co have a bunch of strong hands or draws? I'm viewing it as a wet board, so less likely to have random air that plays XR-XF and I would want to size up on the turn. In villain's shoes when you 3bet the turn does he have a clear fold?

Always enjoy your journal. Checking in for the new year.

my goal is to get the house fixed up as much as possible by the Summer, then rent or sell and move abroad for a year

How long have you lived at this current place? I thought you were going to be there for a while.

Good break down of variance as well. I think people whine about it because living expenses and bankroll start to blend together and they feel the financial pressure weighing them down to have immediate results. Where they might make money over 100k, 200k, or 300k hands, it might not be enough to support their life style. Then reality really starts to sink in.

Hi Hunter. I did some of the work you mentioned above. I also adjusted the stack size to 58.5bb effective with 28bb in the pot as it plays a major difference. When I tested for multiple sizes it never used the 2/3 size, always preferred the smaller size. The EV increases with each change. It doesn't reach a range bet frequency, but small size (33%) with 2/3 of your range seems to be preferred.

Optimal ranges 17.34 EV with a 40% CB frequency and 23% XR
Optimal ranges 17.44 EV with a 61% CB frequency and 12% XR
Loose Co range 17.67 EV with a 45% CB frequency and 21% XR
Loose Co Range 17.75 EV with 63% CB frequency and 12% XR

*Because of the shorter effective stack I also removed the donk option.

Apologies if I annoyed you with my question.

If it was a regular 3BP BTN vs CO, wiz likes B50 as the only size. I thought some bigger sizes would be used as well, but doesn't seem to like b75 either. I'm a bit confused on bet sizing here in 3BP on low boards.

B33 seems to be a lot better here.

Hunter Cichy can you explain why? Some of your previous videos you talked about b33 on A-Q high boards and b66 or X on J-hi and lower boards. Why is this one different?

I also note the CO was a double flatter here, usually pretty PP heavy. I would want to get a thick street of value from all their 33-99 hands here. I think a lot of people call once and fold the turn.

Time stamps might be slightly off but if I'm looking for a live tell between the two hands at 19:30 where you raised J9s on the river you were shuffling your chips. Then with your T8s at 24:40 you end up crossing your arms. It's hard to tell in real time because of all the pausing . I would have to look at the hand without all the pausing. But shuffling your chips could be that you are comfortable with your bluff and then T8s some reason you feel uncomfortable and cross your arms? Just something to look for. Not saying this is your tell.

Overall great content. Wish we could see more hands. Always looking forward to the next one.

7 min Do you not want to use b66 here on low boards? Just playing 1/3 range bet?

that is why I mentioned your idea is more toy-model esque, and was curious if you had ran this through sims in your resources.

Luke Johnson Thanks for the response. Just taking the concept from the course. I will disregard it and focus more on villain tendencies instead.

this "tip" doesn't sound right to me...

Luke Johnson It applies to NL as well. If you are in a 3 way pot, how much does each player have to defend if IP bets pot? BTN pots it, how much does SB & BB have to defend? I probably didn't explain myself very well above. But if MDF is 50%, maybe SB defend 20% and BB defends 30% is more or less what I was getting at. With the 66 hand, does 66 fall in the top 20% of their range? I don't remember the details of the hand.

What resources are you using for your studies?

Resources I was watching videos on crush live poker (CLP), which besides one coach, this site (CLP) is garbage. Their discord is also very toxic unless you dumb down your strategy to fit their beliefs. Then I bought a course for bomb pots as well. Recently Hunter Cichy has started producing more DBPLO content. I think his videos here on RIO do a great job of explaining the strategies. I use dinopoker for equity calculations. Hunter recommends Oracle which I have seen other training sites use as well, just need a little programming, which Hunter has done most of the work already. I'm probably over loaded with content honestly. For 2025 I unsubscribe to a lot of youtube content. Mostly want to focus on RIO for NL content. And apply as much as I can to live cash environments. I have PIO and wizard as well. I feel like I'm over explaining a simple question, so I'll stop here.

2:40 T#2 too light of a peel. Bottom of range is pair + GS or 2 overs + GS. We want to be drawing to a 5 card hand. Naked ace high is just folding since river shouldn't go XX very often.

Wizard link

1:40 T#3 Hero AJo co 2.2 and SB playing 50bb 3bets 11bb. What does the continue range look like vs these short stacks where the 3bet is about 20% of the effective stack?

Definitely a great idea for a future video!

Vote for this video as well. Turn and river barrels in 3BP. In these SRP I have a hard time finding these low equity bluffs like KTo with no pair or draw on the turn. Feels like if we are betting this hand, then the heuristic is just to bet all our air on the turn king high or worse? Then I assume in 3BP where range is more narrow, we don't find these hands? Or we find them more because we are more polar IP? Feels like a lot of BBX or BBB bluffs with pure air needs to be added to my game. Too focused on equity driven strategies.

Tyler Forrester in this anonymous pool any time the board is two tone and we don't face a XR on flop or turn, if the river doesn't complete a flush, do you think its possible to just triple entire range here as auto profit? Unless villain wakes up with 2 pair I assume we can just turn 8x & Jx into a bluff as well? I imagine TPWK is going to have a hard time holding on. Of course this assumes villain doesn't know we are tripling this wide. What are your thoughts on this?

20min with A-high paired board only being 27% weak. 2x pot being over bluffed 40% weak. Against 2x pot we need to defend 33% of our range based on MDF. You said this would be an easy call, but wouldn't' this still be a fold given its Ace high paired board? If they are only bluffing 27% here.

Is A-H paired AAX or just any ace high board that is paired?

Excellent video Tyler Forrester

19:30 with KT triple barrel is there any data on bluffing vs short stacks being more effective or less effective? Maybe we just fire 3 as long as there are enough missed draws available where opponents hand is going to be weaker on avg? On the inverse we bluff catch more often with 2nd pair+ as long as there are plenty of missed draws.

maxer No idea honestly. Vs wider ranges I assume we still bet at a higher frequency because they have so much air in their range. Yes, they have more 8x with these banana ranges, but also have more Jx and AXs that we can get value from. I assume if they don't XR at a high frequency then we get to cbet a lot of our hands. Equity realization is probably key to cbet or not.

Apologies for interjecting on this one. I think people's strategies get messed up because they care more about winning the pot than gaining EV. There is a lot of value on a turn A or Q when you have your opponent dominated. Yes, it sucks when the turn comes a J or K and they apply pressure and you lose the pot, but when you both turn top pair it offsets the negative emotional feelings you had of losing the pot. You'll see a lot of checking from AJs+ AQo+ because we dominate so many other suited broadways. I think this was a big improvement in my game to not over cbet some of these spots just because we want to win the pot and there is some over fold %. Curious if Luke has the similar thoughts.

I've been studying DBPLOBP recently. One tip I got was using MDF for these MW pots. If we face a PSB we have to defend half our range, but its divided among the players. So maybe 3 way we have to defend 25% of our range, where does 66 fall into that range and drawing to a 5 card hand?

I have a similar question to this. Where we don't have a ton of value in our range that wants to take a B-X-OB size here, so it doesn't make a ton of sense, but people still over fold to the large size. Do we ignore the fact it doesn't make sense and just bet big anyways?

I think a large part of it is that people haven't invested a ton of money in the pot, so they are more likely to fold. If you OB in a BBB line you are more likely to get called because they are financially invested into the pot, even though your range is stronger.

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26:44 I watched it over and over again. I can't figure out why Gman checks back KK on J88r.

If you wanted to review live cash game footage. Please just pick any line up with Garret in it. He has a huge fan base as one of the top NL live cash game players. He even used to battle your game, HU high stakes, pre Black Friday. I don't think there is any footage of this though. I know people that literally miss work to watch Gman play.

19 sec on how to prounce Garret Adelstein

49:30 Solver wasn't bluffing the river if hero used the 200% turn OB and gives up a lot of bluffs, but if hero did use B100 on the turn, we can see solver is still bluffing K6s on the river. Turn is more equity driven, so only diamond combos available, but it is following through.

24:30 T#2 Simon Draper you mentioned you are defending every pair CO vs BTN 3B? On wizard there are some 66-44 folding and then 33-22 calling pure, but also 33/22 were not opening pure preflop. I think hero has to be incredibly good postflop in order to defend small pairs OOP in a 3BP. I would defend if villain is more passive and we realize our equity easily vs AK-AJ type of hands where they are one and done. As a default I would just fold 44-22.

35:00 AA on QJ8-2-7 the check back on the turn I think loses a lot of value. I think we just want to b75 turn and river. As played I like hero's 2x river because BB in their XC-X-X line is going to be SDV driven. I don't expect the player pool at 100NL to find bluffs in a XC-X-XR line, so I think hero maximizes value with his river size here. I could see the B75 working well at 500NL against more competent opponents where you induce a bluff raise. Same hand 44:00 I have no idea how hero calls the river XR after using 2x pot. If hero is checking back some strong hands like 2 pair, sets, & straights at some frequency, then AA seems like a fold? Idk if we ever have a hand like QTs or JTs in this line, but wouldn't they make better calls? Great job of picking up on the timing tell though. You said you would never fold this in a million years, where I don't think I would ever call this in a million years lol.

5min Hero flats A3s in the SB vs BTN RFI. You like the flat because BB is a rec. If there was a limper and BTN iso 4bb, would you still flat the SB to keep the rec in?

9min A3s on 764-4-7 would you ever XR the river to get IP off a chop? Allow him to bluff King through jack high hands and get him off a chop if he chooses to bet ace high. I was also wondering if we want to feed the rake, where if we only get called by ace high with a river block bet, is it even worth value betting with rake considerations?

21min AsAh on 9c9d6h I would bet AsAx every time and check without the ace of spades in my hand. Allows you to get some floats from AK-ATs type hands that have bdfd. When I'm bluffing with a hand like AQo I want two suits on the board and check back the flop without two of the flop suits. I think range bet on 99x is great simple strategy, but if I were to split my range it would be based on blocking bdfd when bluffing and unblocking when value betting.

24:30 A2d BvB 4 betting 9bb to 25bb, I think the size would be fine in other formations like BTN vs SB, where the SB has a more linear range and you have less FE. BvB the BB is going to be more polarized, so a small 4bet works best against polar ranges. Get hands like J5s, K8o, A4o etc to fold.

Absolute sickness. Taking "all bluff catchers are +EV vs redliners" to the extreme!