PurplePanda

@9:40
We open MP w/ QJhh, btn 3bets, we call.

Flop: 9c-3h-5h (90)
chk, btn bets 48, we call.

Turn: 7d (185)
chk, btn bets 110 (300 behind), we fold.

You talked about check/shoving on turns where you are going to improve equity wise, i.e. { T, K}. What do you think about the game plan of flatting this turn bet and open shoving some different rivers? In order to find bluff candidates you can maybe add some loose peels on the turn to accommodate that strategy. Direct pot odds are ~27.1% on turn and against QQ-AA, our hearts have ~20% equity, so need to make up some of that differential on the river. There is also a potential issue of reverse implied, when we hit Q or J, and end up calling a non zero % against the strong value range of btn, potentially causing one to lose more money. Maybe folding is still the best play under your assumptions, albeit close?

maybe what I suggested is more the fishy live play to make. ;).

I agree that if you do have a flop cbet strategy KQdd is probably ideal to go into that range. but when u said ..(imo we can cbet often) ...seems like a bad spot to go overboard? guess it depends what sizing you use if you plan to cbet often.

Hi mark ... nice video! You are very good at planning ahead before you even reach the decision point.

@11 mins ... co opens, we 3b KQdd 40 in sb, he calls. flop J89r, we chk.

You say you would check a lot of strong hands so you do not mind adding this to ur c/c range. Are you ever still betting this flop or throwing in a c/r? Seems like it would be hard to balance correctly so c/c continuing range (inc. sets + str8s) makes sense and c/f everything else. And go from there. Are the AK combos c/f's on flop and AQ sometimes peel/sometimes fold (maybe call ones with bdfd)?

I am not a 'high school kid' per se but I enjoy listening to a lot of the banter. I can sympathize that some topics on the podcast are not for everyone.

As far as I know, chicagojoey is the only one out there providing a platform for many online pros to get some exposure and just hang out and answer some questions. Some people want more strategy or different topics but unless you think you can do a better job then be very thankful for what joey has already given the poker community. Its a lot of free entertainment with a peek into many top notch poker players approach and lifestyle. If I can fire up a podcast while grinding and watch CTS or Sauce just kick the shit then I feel very lucky. Even if all the discussions/topics are not 100% what I want them to be.

cliffs:
-Be nice to joey
-Give constructive feedback if you want to see something improved

He sure does misclick a lot.

bajskorven87 9xbb open vs kabydf

Nice video Tommy.

When it comes to mental game 'perfection' is not achievable long term. Having a strong mental game is a process where you should always be learning. The black/white thinking in terms of thinking you could have mastered the mental game to the point you are capable of playing perfect poker is a delusion that does not exist in reality. I find using the word perfect in terms of mental game might be something that should be avoided.

I am not disagreeing or trying to argue with any of the content you have posted (like the banjo + pace which you speak). I am just not a huge fan of the title of this video from a technical standpoint.

Hey Sauce thanks for a good video.

You mentioned that katya could bet this flop 100% of time with everything and it would be an okay/decent strategy. The sims you ran all assumed a 100% flop cbet strategy. But you also alluded to the fact that you can add some extra ev by checking back a few hands otf. How would you go about optimizing this // what are best candidates to consider checking? Do some of the smaller pp's i.e. 22-77 seem like good hands to check but that would also mean you would need to be maybe checking back a lot more hands otf so 8x isn't the nuts for ur opponent.

I also liked how you pointed out that 22-44 can become profitable double barrels for katya on the turn under certain strategies (considering a hand like 86dd for you is negative 2-3bb to call turn with), which kind of flipped my black/white perspective on buckets to place certain hands in.

Yoo kevin nice video. Thought last hand was pretty interesting. With QTdd vs AsKc on Kd-Th-4c-Qh-Ks

You said your value range ott for going 2 streets is any hand better then AA. And that you want to play for stacks against his AK/KJ/AA range on blank rivers. Makes sense! You sized it (72pct/1.07pct ) so you are shoving over pot otr not sure if that was a slight bet sizing error? fwiw, 89% every street to get stacks ai by river but I guess when checked to in 3b pots ott usually want to size down.

Which flop floats become attractive bluffing candidates to add to our bluff range ott? I cant seem to think of many.

Initially I thought for heckllen it might be an interesting spot for him to lead river but quickly dismissed that idea. Besides you having QT there (which you probably wouldn't call a river shove with anyway) it makes little sense (assuming you are xb turn with KJ -- which you said you would). He should have some 4x HH combos and maaybe JJ that may want to consider turning themselves into a bluff but I don't think its even worth considering you have plenty of hands that can beat trips?

When evaluating mistakes its often common to criticize the former less educated you and develop a results oriented biased. i.e. Right after you click call, the results are revealed, and immediately think; I am so stupid for calling --- I should of knew better. At the time you made a decision and you had some justification for that decision. It may not have been correct or good justification, but there was maybe some underlying reason or tendencies that you default to and its important to be aware of when understanding your decision process.

If you knew what the right play was and you still did the wrong play then that is a different problem that needs to be explored. If you were not sure what the right play was and you ended up making the wrong play, then that's not a mistake that's just not being educated enough or technically proficient enough to know what the right play is and being hard on yourself is just adding unnecessary stress by criticizing the less educated former version of yourself.

Having a good understanding of the learning process is an important step in all of this.

@ 5 mins on table 3. You 4bet out of BB with KK and get the btn who originally cold flatted a 3bet now calls ur 4bet. You debate merit of checking and betting and initially think check but you end up betting.

Pot is $240 with $280 behind. Cant you just toy with him in such a spot? Betting like $20-60. I guess larger bet otf shows you are committed with AK etc etc but thoughts on going really small sizing here with a wide range?

I think when dealing with shaking when you get a big hand it just means you need to get a lot more live experience. The fact you say your volume is 98% online/2% live means you are just not comfortable. If you switched these percentages around and evaluated a few months later I would assume you would be close to finding a solution.

A small issue I can foresee is that if you are going to attempt to pretend you are shaking to throw them off and then you are naturally shaking there could be subtle nuances that make these distinguishable. But I wouldn't worry about anyone soulreading you in live poker unless you are playing against top tier opponents and even then they are not sure.

Just don't sigh and act disgusted and then shove all in over a bet with the nuts. :).

Do you have a lot of hands with this guy?

What is his open % from MP? and his fold to 3bet % in MP open vs bb 3bet or something equivalent. 

I've played a lot of live poker so will just add my 2cents. I think this is a very good analysis and break down combinatorically so first off good video.

you said --
He could occasionally chicken out with some of these bluff combos.

 You maybe have understated this point. Some people are just not bluffing river for 300bb's, the most important question -- does this player even fit description of putting in 6k otr as a bluff. This is  10/25 live (not hard + plenty of weak competition compared to online) and when you are bluffing off almost 300bb's on the river, many aren't thinking gto bluffing ranges, they are very exploitative minded (and maybe correctly so).

 So if it was like daniel at table, and I had to decide what to do with aces, I'd try to deduce based on what he bought in for...how he plays live in general....does he value the 6k....what does he look like....what is his table presence .... does he have a nice watch on ... has he bluffed big before ...is he losing .... how does he perceive me. Then maybe consider some of this deeper technical aspects of the hand. In the absence of any information to contrary, I would just stick with the fact that he probably isn't bluffing that much money off and he can have a lot of potential value combos and think its more likely he has it then he is exploiting me.  These things imo are way more valuable then a technical approach unless you are playing in some very tough live games where you might want to focus on a more refined approach.  A solid understanding of gto and exactly what you did will help a lot but definitely a lot of what I mentioned above needs to be accounted for.

 I would be very worried with AA here against 90% of people at the given stake you listed. The people that are capable of bluffing here, I will make note of. But you need to prove it to me first. Not just going to make baseline assumptions. That is not to say this isn't a good video (I like ur vids a lot), but just that there are other important factors that should not be understated.

But still cant manage to keep my emotions in peace when I bust a deep run..

Still implies an expectation that you are not reaching. You are frustrated because you feel you should have this all figured out. If you had this all figured things would be better. But the reality is you don't. 

 Its not a matter of not just using these words. As the words are just symptoms to the flaw but they shed light on an less then ideal way of thinking and judging yourself instead of a more open mind approach. 

I would advise you to spend a lot of time on your mental game -- with the same focus as if you were grinding mtts.  If you have the money pay for a good coach. You can pm me if you need a recommendation.  

Cool makes a lot of sense. Your strategy gains a lot more potential EV from AA/KK which is the part of the range we want to most isolate. 

you must run a lot of sims. 

@10min mark-- table 2. Q7o on Qc-Jh-3c-Ts-Qh
He 3bets you small (maybe misclick and cbets flop/turn and checks river with 1.1psb left)

I don't really give my opponent to much credit for ever checking a strong hand in this situation
On river my strategy is to shove any Queen or better for value.
I will have missed fd's/K5hh/etc to bluff with

I think we can both agree that he is c/f a lot otr. Why not bluff cheaper and potentially valuebet thinner (AJ, etC) and go for a smaller sized bet?

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good content boss!

as mentioned, you should not be able to bet all your air here otf. You are assuming he is playing very exploitable by being able to do so. so +1 for giving up on the flop. 86o has very little going for it on turn cards (best thing u can do is turn a gutshot). At least a hand like JTo has a 3 card straight draw and potential overcards if he is cc weaker pairs.

Look at videos from Eraser, and see how strong his checking range is in the opponents spot.

Small recommendation -- maybe mess with the ratio of good calls to bad calls or tight folds so we aren't completely sure until you reveal results what ended up actually happening (i.e. always call and win happened a lot and might influence decision to just automatically think CALL  ...cant win if you fold...lol).  Maybe just throw in more of the occasional curve ball like you did at the very end where you lost or maybe made a tight fold.  Very nice format and video.

bauce1234

Hi Daniel,

Excellent content.

Semi late to the party. I ran thru the same exact #'s. Just want to point out some random findings.

On this Ks5s4d-8s

If we look at buttons turn betting range of ~70pct, if we get rid of the btn barreling all of the high cards that 1) dont have a spade 2) that dont have any kind of straight draw we are left with..... 

AdQd,AdJd,AdTd,Ad9d,QdJd,QcJc,QhJh,QdTd,QcJd,QdJc,QcJh,QhJd,QhJc,QdJh,JdTd (15 hands)

These are the most border line hands to make assumptions about in this sim and its really tough to say whether he always bets/checks them so its probably good to do a few runs.

What I found interesting was if we assume opponent is not betting these combos ott his turn bet % goes from 70% to 56% and our EV on turn call goes from +1.6bb to -3bb (assumes 0ev river decision). By removing these combos, our opponent is theoretically allowed to bet 75% of his overcards with one spade to make calling on the river for us 0ev. While in your sim, he could only bet and only <15% weight of overcard combos> to make river 0ev. So he is essentially giving up with a much larger amount of his overcard combos which have 0% chance of winning this pot. This would seem to indicate 1) he is getting to river with a lottt of bluffs 2) he failed to use appropriate river sizing (he should be betting much larger like u said). Let me know if you disagree or have any thoughts? :). 

wow good stuff kev

Hi... I only watched some of the first video. We have way different styles and approaches but interesting nonetheless.

Lets just talk about opponent --

#1 QT play is pretty iffy on his part... cr and called  flop 4bet.. He gets a Q-Q run out and still loses (I think some strong arguments can be made for you shoving).

#2 on hand you had KTdd once you raise him I think the sizing he choose of cib would make me pause and consider what he is really repping....and fact river action went he leads/you raise/he re-raises/you call and 1pr hand is good means was wayyy off in his assumptions.

At this point he is probably pretty tilted....

#3 Then he proceeds to run a 3street cr bluff on KQ4-4-K with J7dd. Which is rather a bad runout to bluff.

Who said there is no money in HU, :).

nice

Great video, very educational.

Do you think its bad to ever cc flopped two pair here otf in opponents shoes? 4.5bb on the flop with 22bb.  After we call cbet otf, 20bb eff. stax with a 9bb pot oop going into the turn.  Which seems pretty awkward and not something I would want to be doing to much. But some 77/KJ/K7 maybeeee wont always checkraise? It would be to exploit hero/btn from betting two streets with impunity.  The better the btn plays and the better ranges you have the less value it has I guess in terms of slowplaying. But it would severely change the equities in our calculations if this were ever the case and they ever showed up with a few nutted/strong combos. I dont play CAP so could be completely wrong and the value of cr will always exceed potential value of the slowplay.  

My only gripe is if you could show the preflop stuff first. So we could try to crunch thru this with you. It wasn't until the 30 minute we saw his defending range preflop, which is pretty important. Apologies if you've reviewed preflop in your  other videos.

Right on, thanks for a fresh perspective. Cliff notes I took from the above ---

*Try to be a healthy human specimen

*Develop some sort of routine (even if that's getting tea or quickly reviewing hands/notes from prior session)

*Monitor your levels and be self aware of where you stand. (i.e. just work on your mental game)

Hi Lucas, nice video.

When you talked about strong focus/concentration while playing ...does a lot of that have to do with the mental game side? i.e. having web-browsers up,  playing with a wrong frame of mind, playing hungry, etc. I think developing some sort of an effective routine is probably the solution to some of the problems listed ? Do you do any sort of warm up?

Personally its a struggle I am working to overcome, i.e. my last nights session I kind of just lazily put in the hands and not happy with my overall focus levels (and thus quality of play).

My game has very wide margins depending on 1) how I am running 2) how prepared I am to play 3) other external factors to long to list. So I've been working hard as of recently to both recognize these problems and find solutions. I am always interested to hear about other players mental games because as you mentioned the emotional aspect of money can change a lot.  Do you do anything prepare for sessions? How did you overcome prior mental game problems in the past?

I'd worry less about the perfect ratio and more about the quality of time spent in each facet. Reading NVG on 2p2 does not equate to solid poker study just as playing a session completely unfocused will not do much for you either. 

If you are heavily discounting studying in today online climate you are most likely costing yourself future EV.  But there is no perfect ratio  ---   and I wouldn't be surprised if it was notably different among a variety of successful poker players.

analyzing river spots is my favorite since there is always more of a clear answer and nice takeaways. In this case the 2 posts by sneeze and themightjim1 were awesome.