Want to say that I really enjoyed this video and all of the others (videos from the essential coaches) of course. The PLO content is one of the main reasons I chose to sign up for this site and it does not disappoint.
Towards the end of the video Phil starts talking about analyzing boards that don't hit our opponents ranges very hard and that there is a lot to gain in these spots. I know in his previous videos he talks about lockdown boards where the only strong hand our opponent can have is the nuts and we should be attacking here. To me these are monotone boards, low paired boards and three straight boards. I do find though at lower limits (especially the micros where I play) that on three straight boards people never tend to fold their pair plus straight draw types of hands even with a lot of pressure. I think this is incorrect on their part, however this must mean that we need to adjust and either not attack these boards without minimum equity compared to the pair+SD range, or only value betting these boards. I lean towards value betting only because pair+SD is going to be the bottom of their range and I am fearful of barreling off with the second best hand when they are not at the bottom of their range. I don't know if my view is skewed by playing so many multiway pots at lower limits meaning I should only be attacking in heads-up on these flops.
Lower paired boards tend to suffer some of the same fate in some scenarios where I don't find opponents folding too many overpairs on the flop. Although in these scenarios I find it difficult to decide between barreling off to make them fold to the pressure or just giving up and only value betting in these scenarios as well.
Also, not to diverge from the topic too much, but watching phil play a wider range (especially from the blinds) in this video makes me question how wide i should be playing myself. I do play at the micros and know I am not even close to being as good as phil. Most of the reading I have done advocates playing a fairly tight nutty range in and out of position. I have mostly been raising/3betting my 8xxx+ at least single suited good and premium rundowns. I have been limping behind my lower speculative rundowns (not too low usually 6xxx+) as well as my suited aces with rundowns and bad kings. And opening mostly two good hold'em hands on the button and fairly wide in the CO if i think the button is tight. I really have only been defending from the blinds my nuttiest hands and KKxx in multiway pots and 3betting double suited broadway rundowns depending on how many players are in the pot. Do I need to loosen up these ranges? are they too static?
Anyhow, sorry for the long post I just wanted to get my thoughts out there and hopefully get corrected if I am wrong (I wrote so much there must be something wrong in there). Please feel free to critique/comment. I am new around here so please also tell me if this is the wrong place for this post I just figured most of it related to topics in the video and wanted to discuss.
Want to say that I really enjoyed this video and all of the others (videos from the essential coaches) of course. The PLO content is one of the main reasons I chose to sign up for this site and it does not disappoint.
Towards the end of the video Phil starts talking about analyzing boards that don't hit our opponents ranges very hard and that there is a lot to gain in these spots. I know in his previous videos he talks about lockdown boards where the only strong hand our opponent can have is the nuts and we should be attacking here. To me these are monotone boards, low paired boards and three straight boards. I do find though at lower limits (especially the micros where I play) that on three straight boards people never tend to fold their pair plus straight draw types of hands even with a lot of pressure. I think this is incorrect on their part, however this must mean that we need to adjust and either not attack these boards without minimum equity compared to the pair+SD range, or only value betting these boards. I lean towards value betting only because pair+SD is going to be the bottom of their range and I am fearful of barreling off with the second best hand when they are not at the bottom of their range. I don't know if my view is skewed by playing so many multiway pots at lower limits meaning I should only be attacking in heads-up on these flops.
Lower paired boards tend to suffer some of the same fate in some scenarios where I don't find opponents folding too many overpairs on the flop. Although in these scenarios I find it difficult to decide between barreling off to make them fold to the pressure or just giving up and only value betting in these scenarios as well.
Also, not to diverge from the topic too much, but watching phil play a wider range (especially from the blinds) in this video makes me question how wide i should be playing myself. I do play at the micros and know I am not even close to being as good as phil. Most of the reading I have done advocates playing a fairly tight nutty range in and out of position. I have mostly been raising/3betting my 8xxx+ at least single suited good and premium rundowns. I have been limping behind my lower speculative rundowns (not too low usually 6xxx+) as well as my suited aces with rundowns and bad kings. And opening mostly two good hold'em hands on the button and fairly wide in the CO if i think the button is tight. I really have only been defending from the blinds my nuttiest hands and KKxx in multiway pots and 3betting double suited broadway rundowns depending on how many players are in the pot. Do I need to loosen up these ranges? are they too static?
Anyhow, sorry for the long post I just wanted to get my thoughts out there and hopefully get corrected if I am wrong (I wrote so much there must be something wrong in there). Please feel free to critique/comment. I am new around here so please also tell me if this is the wrong place for this post I just figured most of it related to topics in the video and wanted to discuss.
If you made it this far thanks for reading!
Sept. 12, 2013 | 12:40 a.m.