PGalfondFollower
5 points
agreed,he could be value betting worse like AK or AA,,maybe bluffing. maybe beating us with 2pair+. Q9 imo is strong enough to call for +ev
Aug. 19, 2016 | 12:26 p.m.
i guess most people perceive other people's OOP check flop check turn bet river line to be value heavy(correct me if anyone has dif. opinion).so this shove feels valueish to me. like one pair hand AQ KQ...as he called your 4bet and did not wanna value cutting himself against your possible slow play of AAKK.
Aug. 18, 2016 | 4:31 p.m.
jam and flat both look good to me.he does not have many flush, both statistically and from his bet size. jam will invite his diamond draw Ad or Kd in,based on his style.flat gives him a second chance to bluff. diamond only comes 18% of the time on the turn, same chance of AA loses to KK.why are we scared then?
Aug. 18, 2016 | 1:19 p.m.
i guess a live recreational player mostly plays his own cards.as he put in 500 already with 500 behind,he has a hand that he is comfortable getting in with you. JK J8 QT or sets.even if i folded and he showed a bluff,i think folding is +ev generally in this spot.
Aug. 18, 2016 | 12:35 p.m.
I agree with BigFiszh here. Once he called twice IP on this board. His range is mostly FDs, Kxs,SDs. I'd guess he would have folded 8x, jammed 2p+. So his river shove range skewed to bluffs more.
Sept. 27, 2013 | 4:32 a.m.
Really cannot expect the ChrisCros545 flatted AA after u flatted, so this is good play. If he did have AA then u have to donate and take notes. If either UTG or BTN reraise here and gets in with u, then u r in super tough decision.
Sept. 11, 2013 | 7:23 a.m.
This is really tough to decide as its a limped pot. At deep tables i never limp. Now he has 100% range on the flop and triple barrelled, he could have 83,84 a lot.
Sept. 11, 2013 | 7:15 a.m.
I would call the flop and fold to his turn bet. On rainbow board, I d guess he has more made hands rather than draws. Furthermore, if u call turn again and A or Q hits the river and he bets big, u r in tough spot.
Sept. 11, 2013 | 7:10 a.m.
I guess u will see AK,AA,AhXh,67s a lot in this spot. Sometimes against tricky guys u will see 66,77. As the hand was played, u r flipping with most of the hands I mentioned, so probably u need to go with it.
However, I dont agree what u said that "we crush a bunch of his hands". Against my perceived range of villain, Kh9h cannot "crush" any of them. By "crush", I mean more than 70% equity.
Kh9h vs
AA 52:48
AK 47:51
67 52:47
AhXh 60:40
One more thing, because he jammed and u called then this calculation is meaningful. If instead u jammed then u earn folding equity and was much more +EV.
Sept. 11, 2013 | 7:06 a.m.
Agree with the pre 3bet due to his high open frequency @CO.
Agree with the above comments about turn fold, as most ppl's turn shoves are way too unbalanced and value hands biased. For any value shove, AT is in terrible shape.
July 2, 2013 | 4:57 p.m.
CO: $79.10
BN: $153.19
SB: $143.34 (Hero)
BB: $56.95
UTG: $90
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, BN raises to $8.78, Hero calls $5.28
July 2, 2013 | 4:31 p.m.
I will look for a cheap showdown for this particular hand. I guess I will bet OTT if it is a diamond.
June 25, 2013 | 9:13 a.m.
In general, I suggest that 3bet or 4bet more when you are in position and your opponents are super deep. For example, i think its good to 3bet 57s or TJs @ CO or BTN but not blinds. At this depth, you cannot expect a fold pre and you have to play them OOP OTF. And they are hard to play OOP.
For point 6, I will call the 3bet and play set mining and pot control(if possible).
I dont like to discuss about set over set issues as it is very rare. Furthermore, if people at the table are not too nitty, I will stack off very often.
Last to say,dont bother with this question too much as we seldom play that deep and lets focus on depth below 300BB.
June 20, 2013 | 9:27 a.m.
when a guy with extremely low donk percentage donked, just fold one pair hand.
June 20, 2013 | 7:43 a.m.
Agree with your turn play of leading out. Do you ever try c/r like this?
But I am not sure about your checking flop move. I may expect any pair, any 88,99,Q9,KQ,lower flush draws to call me at least OTF. ATs has decent equity against many of those hands.
Say, if I check flop and he bets, will you check call or check raise?
June 19, 2013 | 9 a.m.
BN: $64.41
SB: $31.81
BB: $62.55
UTG: $63.70 (Hero)
HJ: $24.45
Hero raises to $0.75, HJ folds, CO calls $0.75, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds
June 19, 2013 | 7:44 a.m.
I will play differently OTF,OTT and OTR.
On this 249 board I will cbet or check fold, nearly never check call. I am not a fan of floating OOP.
If I cbet the flop, I will continue on many turns as your opponent can rarely have a strong enough hand to call double barrels. Your turn check raise is bad in that you rep too few hands such as 4x, 99,22. Many people wont believe you when your repping range is too narrow.
OTR your check raise is terrible. Nothing worse will call and nearly no betters will fold. He can only have either a weak pair or a monster on this particular board.
June 19, 2013 | 4:05 a.m.
I like your flop raise. If that miracle 9 didnt hit, I would go check fold line.
June 19, 2013 | 3:53 a.m.
At first I dont like your small turn bet and later on I find it OK. Although making it around 30 will deter his flush draw better(however I dont think he has many BDFD like AXs). Forget it and I like your 23 bet size.
Then I deliberate the river and shoving might be bad. AK might call, flushes call and all other random KXs mostly fold. All pairs but KK, 88, 77(rare) & 55(rare) fold. Almost no value at all.
Nearly no 5x in his range because if he folds 2 3bet IP 70, he will nearly never call cold 4bet with 5x.
However, if you check river and he shoves, it's a different story and you will make a crying call, I guess?
June 19, 2013 | 3:27 a.m.
As this board develops, AK can hardly beat anything. Any sets, flushes and str8s might feel comfortable to go for some value OTR. I would have sighed and say 'Whatever', then fold it. :D
June 19, 2013 | 3:09 a.m.
Agree with above comments about the flop raising size. Even if you make a bigger raise, he would have still called if he did have a thing like Tx, gutters,2 pairs. If he was bluff raising, he would have folded no matter the size of your raise.
June 19, 2013 | 2:59 a.m.
I guess a better play is to fold pre to the 4bet and this large 4bet seems to rep AK imo. Additionally, his raise 1st of 10 @ SB is extremely strong and AQ does no good on a flop against a 4bet from this range. Although not given his 4bet frequency, this should still be a fold.
June 19, 2013 | 2:53 a.m.
Frankly, your hand loses to tons of hands that go with this line. I guess his range consists mostly of Qx and flushes. I dont think this will be a call. If you did shove, he will relatively easy fold all Qx except for AQ but not flushes, you dont have many boat combos on this board. Plus he is short.
June 15, 2013 | 1:30 a.m.
SB: $35.34
BB: $25
UTG: $34.63
HJ: $26.11
CO: $25.19
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB folds, BB calls $2, CO calls $1.50
May 17, 2013 | 1:38 a.m.
UTG: $25.80
HJ: $52.49
CO: $25 (Hero)
BN: $25.15
SB: $18.60
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BN folds, SB calls $0.52, BB folds
May 17, 2013 | 1:28 a.m.
HJ: $61.36
CO: $65.70
BN: $25.35
SB: $31.70
BB: $25 (Hero)
HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BN calls $1.25
May 17, 2013 | 1:14 a.m.
First of all, very interesting hand.
Given this guy's TAG stats and 6.3 3bet range, I'm confident to rule out A7s 22 33 and 77. Also, I dont think this guy is gonna do something out of line.
Secondly, his 3bet size is very big, maybe due to the table custom cuz u r both deep enough so that wont help much.
Again, with his reletively tight 3bet range, I really cant think of KQs KJs JQs for an OOP 3bet. Moreover, he's more likely to bet his draw with ur stack depth.
The line of this hand being played tells me that this guy either holds AA for a trap or makes a play on you with a big pair with a club. If he is actually holding AK, I will really respect this guy and keep away from him. :)
Call it then.
May 16, 2013 | 8:21 a.m.
Intuitively, he has mostly KK. But actually KK has 6 combos while AK has 8...
For this hand, I'd just all in pre to avoid a disgusting 3 way flop and the risk u cant stack off a opponent.
May 16, 2013 | 2:44 a.m.
Why i make that statement is that when u squeeze from such bad position as blinds, ur range that ur opponent perceives is simply AK, AQ, TT - AA.
James' comment is good in that u may check some AK,AQ,AA to balance ur check range. BUT this will also limit ur betting range to AK,AQ,AA unless u bet some TT - KK.
If we come back to this particular hand. The flop is monotone and nearly nobody will check AK,AQ,AA to give ur opponent a free turn. So with the above range, I guess i will bet all of them.
guess against his check calling range at utg,you can get a lot of folds otr, wp
Sept. 15, 2016 | 2:44 p.m.