NMB9191

Good length

What are the top couple products available for this? Is there anything people would recommend that would let you make push/fold decisions as well as call a shove/fold decisions with various stack sizes?

Agree with this. He opened into CU, BN, and SB who all look like decent threats to re-shove. Also BB has a nice stack to defend.

Interesting with V being 8/2. Would like to see others thoughts on this as I am not sure.

I would be tempted to either limp behind or put in a small raise to around 650.

When limping, if anyone raises behind us and V flats, I am putting V on something like 22-JJ, AKs, Ako, AQs and shoving over the limp. When V limps then raises, I am putting V on AA-QQ and AKs and folding. Without knowing more, the CO and BU should have a wide enough range to gii with the 88 against them.

When making the small raise, folding to the V's 3 bet shove and taking it to the streets with intention of C-betting many boards including almost all of the ones with an Ace or King.

I don't think the open shove of 20bb is getting called by worse very often but would like to see what others think.

Good point that we aren't dominating many hands that call the limp shove. Again considering the soft field, probably pushes the decision more toward the small raise.

With my tight image, I usually either raise 2.5x/fold to a shove or limp shove. Both options seem profitable in $300 live tournaments. Would suggest the following:

Raise 2.5x. The villain will usually defend. Then bet around 3.5k (into around 7.6k) on a high percentage of flops. V is folding to this at a high percentage if V has been at table and thinks I am generally opening tight. If I hit the flop with top pair+, check turn to V who is betting big or shoving a fairly high percentage of time at which point I get it in. If I miss the flop, generally check folding the turn. Suggest having some 2 and 3 barrels here with the right run outs. (Turn bet approximately 7k into 15k; river shove approximately pot sized).

On the limp shove, I think the V in this spot is folding a decent amount live. When V calls, I tend to see a lot of broadways both unsuited and suited. There will be some J8s, K9s and similar that call our shove also and we end up getting it in pretty good vs. V's range here at this level of buy in live tournament.

With the field being soft, I am probably more inclined to suggest taking the first option and 2.5x/cbet then shut it down or check get it in on the turn much more than the other options.