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Hard to make any evaluation of the play without payment structure. Especially for first to third.

on 27:40 you choose to overbet the str8 but i think its very hard to find enough bluffs in our range to bet that big
Without doing the math, but assuming your calling range OTF contains any FD, gutter, A high and made hands. The only hands which need to bluff are A high and even turning all of them into a bluff seems hard to even back up a half pot bet.

Even if u c/c flop with Jdx which i dont know and u can out that into your bluffing range its hard to balance an overbet from my perspective.

More of this plz!!!

sorry but just a really bad vid.
If you struggle playing and talking it might be better to do session reviews or concept videos.

The runitonce to induce suckout was epic btw. :-)

you already did all the work. just plug in his range and play accordingly.
i guess its a fold otf this deep...

"human instincts is more efficient than any amount of mathamatical analysis ever could be"

Sorry Phil, site can get closed now :-(

i think a4c, is supposed to mean any 4 with clubs (32cc+).
This well could be the case that this is +ev, but like you said you evaluate your play to this specific villain and the ranges you put him on. I think there is absolut no need for appliing a gto strategy here.
In Jeans last video he exactly did the same on the A77cc flop hand and pure pointed out how he thinks the average villain is playing his range against him and that he profitable can exploit this line.

Nice video,
about the flop bluff raising range. I think you forgot to put in his value raising range as well when you calculated how often he is folding. Maybe you did on paper, but if you put in the combos like that you get the combos he is continuing with, with a call. And that does not mean that he is folding the rest of it. So folding = preflop range - calling rang - value raising range - bluffing range

I just tried to use gambit myself but found no tutorial :-(
Maybe this is an easy solution for these Riverspots:
http://gtorangebuilder.com/#home

But I am frightened how much good software is out there. Poker is gonna be solved...

right click at the table and check mark "use positions"

I think its different from AKQ cause if Limon bets JJ, Zach is calling with worse half the time and he only is beat half the time. So he exactly wins what he looses and this should be 0.
In AKQ you cannot bet the K cause you only get called by worse. I'm not 100% sure but I think with card removal and only 3 cards in the deck thats the case. Maybe you refer to a 12 card model but I am not familiar with this. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Last example, I multiplied with 0,15 because I calculatet the EV of Zachs whole range and like I said, he cannot bluff catch anymore so is he only getting a part from the Pot when he has the nutz so the other portions of his range are multiplied with zero.
Again this is for changing your model a) to Limon bets Pot his whole Range.

To compare the results I calculated your a) and got a different one, too :-(

EV_Zach = 0,15 * (0,25 * 2 + 0,6 * 1 + 0,15 * 0,5) + 0,15 * ( 0,25 * 2 + 0,6 * 0 - 0,15 * 1 ) + 0,6 * 0
= 0,17625 + 0,0525

Where is my fault?

I quickly ran the math manualy on this and got 26,625% of the Pot for Zach, so I probably got something wrong if your Results are accurate :-(
This is for the a) where Zach only Pot raises and therefor never bluffs.

EVZach = Pnutz * (Pbluff * 2 + Pmade * 2 + P_tie * 0,5)

=0,26625

But feels weird to me, because this EV is worse than checking for Limon and this could not be the cause because every single part of his range has a positive EV.

Thanks for calculating midori. Did you use CR or just a tree with programm like Gambit?

Looking at the numbers I think it is a little bit unlucky that I gave Zach exactly the same amount of bluff catchers than the nuts.

This means if Zach is continuing against Limons pot bet, he will have 50% nuts and thats the reason for Limon to not value bet his JJ. But since Zach has no bluffing range (with a Pot raise) Limon will always realize his EQ with JJ and is going to be indifferent with betting JJ.
So the programm probably could not tell that propper and just used the limit value of this static function.
But if Limon choose to value bet all his JJ combos, Zach should not be able to bluffcatch at all because Limon has a value range of 75% (Pot odds 33% against Potbet).
Maybe I got something wrong but this should leed to a higher EV for Limon since he gets away with all his bluffs which are now backed up.

Its a little away from the question but will get to it at the end.

I think his river pot bet is just bad and therefor very hard to figure out a GTO raisesize.
Here is my reasoning. Without putting any numbers to it but heros and btn's range should be very made hand heavy given that the pot is multiway and they are both capped or at least have fewer strong made hands and the oop players are still uncapped at the turn.
Since hero is only calling the raise on the turn his range is slightly more draw heavy then villains range who is risking more money by bluff raising their and still could face a raise from the oop players.

So if villain plays the turn right he should not have many bluffs at the river which also means he cannot value bet to thin given because the board has changed a bit.
This seems a little bit weird that he cannot valuebet light because his range is strong but what is heros range on the river?
- missed draws, no SD value
- weak bluff catchers, missed draws with little SD value
- rivered straight

If villain wants to bet very thin for value, hero could not call any bluff catchers at all because villains range contains less bluffs and villain gets only called by better. This could still be +EV, because villain succeds with all his bluffs, but its not the best play.
Like I said i dont have numbers for that given I dont know their ranges but lets assume
Hero has 70% air, 15% bluffcatcher and 15% nut straight
Villain has 25% bluffs, 60% made hands, 15% nut straight.

If villain wants to value bet all his made hands hero can only call with the nutstr8 and like Midori says its like the AKQ game where you never call bluff catchers and villain should never bluff the K. This leads to the conclusion that by betting pot villain can only bet straights and bluffs cause he will only get called by better with his non straight made hands.

Just another example to prove my point.
Lets say the board in a 6 handed game is AAK45 and after the 3rd barrel Hero gets raised. Whats the optimal 3bet bluffing frequ. It is very obv that its 0% given the strong ranges and maybe even the bluff raise frequ of villain should be 0% if u do not want to turn the best blocker hand KK into a bluff.

That all being said its hard to get a gto raise size on the river which is bigger than a minraise. And since we are not allowed to raise smaller, even a minraise is an exploit.

To summarize this.
- villain should be betting smaller and can value bet wider which increases his ev with his made hands and with his bluffs because they are cheaper and he has enough made hands to back this up
- hero can bluff raise against a smaller bet at least some of the time because villains value range do not contains nuts only and he gets to bluff raise cheaper (risk-reward)

maybe you can upload the PKJ file that I can experiment with the hand a little bit :-)

I guess its a 4bet Pot and I think it looks like it even though Turns and River get hard to play. Looks like this always comes up when Hero helds a marginal holding (w or w/ draw) and villains range is very wide but on boards where our EQ differs from very bad (sets,straights) too very good against some of his low rd's.

On this special flop we kinda do ok even against a get it in range because of his draws like AKJ or KJ:(Q,T,8).

If we take a board like KQ9, the EV should differ even more between our EQ share and the shove EV.

Nice vid. Realy like the pace!

sometimes it takes a while til it loads from the server i guess

cool vid, but would be nice if u use 4 volour deck :-)

Would like to see that too. You say that having the initiative has no impact on who should be betting or not, which I totally agree. However playing oop as a caller in a CO vs BU scenario, there are no boards which are particuarly better for the Co range, only someones which are realy bad. Thats why I think it is very hard to build a balanced leading, c/c, c/r range...

Would love to see a video about how your take on these ranges on specific boards is.

validand ist right. fold or shove. just give them some ranges and do the math to figure this out.

Continuing the HU PLO series would be nice. Was shown as Episode 1, so plenty to come ;-)

http://www.runitonce.com/pro-training/videos/a-closer-look-heads-up-plo/

I do not see where this is big variance. Like Aleksandra pointed out, even if her ranges may be slightly off (which I am not saying) your EV is between 500-1000$ in one single hand and you have already money in the Pot. Compared to your Stack its 12,5 - 25% which you will never get in better this deep unless they are really bad.

The bluff is not only because i want to rep str8 flushes with the blocker, like i said i rep boats and the str8flush blocker still helps not having him snap shove over my raise...

He is never value betting worse than NF, so you say he is calling his whole value range which shouldnt be right gto wise. Otherwise if he does so, the bluff is terrible.

Why is the reg only playing 120, if he is really that short you have to fold to his first raise cause you have no Eq advantage and stacks are very shallow and you get in bad spots postflop beeing first to act after the preflop agressor.

After thats its still a fold, just create some range look ar your equity...

Good video, realy like the fast forward style!!!