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Max Greenwood

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I agree with Gabe here. Something else to consider is betting the turn also sets up some good river spots when we both hit and don't. The one thing I don't love is being OOP were not getting as much information about the other players hand as I'd like in that they can call the turn pretty wide, however I do think they would also shove J10 and sets on the turn a lot as opposed to call/call.

So if there turn call range is mostly mid strength 1 pair hands and pair + fl draws and the occasional 2 pair+, occasional because 2 pairs and sets will shove the turn a decent amount and because there are very few flush combos (AQ, 89, 78, 79, Q9, not sure how much wider he is to raise call pf) we can pretty comfortably bet turn and shove most rivers and are now getting a way better price on the river bluff compared to overbet shoving the turn even though some times we have to bet fold and can't realize our equity.

Oct. 31, 2012 | 8:34 p.m.

It might be bad from a game theory point of view but I agree with Phil that he is probably very strong here and we should shove our strong hands to prevent him from checking folding any bad rivers with worse made hands and so he calls with some dominated qj10x+flush draw stuff or good equity nut flush draw stuff. That is assuming he bets the turn with those which I think he would do fairly often but would be interested to hear what Phil thinks about that.

Oct. 30, 2012 | 5:27 p.m.

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