MasterofPKR

its going to be very difficult to optimiz this strat vs good vilain

Hai Gramsci,

Youre prob right, having a turn ch/r range is prob not the best strategy here :) Although it wont be way out of line, its kinda impossible to be balanced as you said.

Our basic 3b flop range will be a5ss a5hh 77-66 58 53 a8ss a8hh k8ss k8hh q8hh 108hh j8hh (maybe a little mixed strat) and I also at up some 'less equity' hands like As5xAs8x/k10hh. Harder to find out which 'less' hands i would 3 bet exactly but the need at least a) the As so we can barrel some bluffs on an upcoming spade or b) hand which contain equity but aren't able to call, like A10hh.

So, now I have an idea of which possible hands we can choose for a 3bet. You chose a fairly big 3b size, which I really liked cause we can at up more bluffs now and put maximum pressure on (bum hunting) villain and we don't need to fold a hand like a10hh on a chr again (I rarely bet a10hh on the flop actually but I stick with my example, I'm on my phone). So big raise, wide 3b range, Jh on the turn. Long story, short answer. I really like your shove on the turn Jh: completes non of our semi bluffs while at the same time lots of my hands gained equity and have no sdv. So we wanna keep our bet range up and we can only do that with shoving. Especially if the other options are half pot turn bet river 60-70% or so. Not gonna do the math. We can also still check hands on the turn. So by doing that, we're gonna be balanced. Possibly a little top heavy on my shove but who cares against a bumhunter

You all take way to much conclusions from the small 4bet.

We can prob bet 1/4 full range but due of the small 4b pot maybe 3/5 is slightly better. The problem with a check back range is, that is gonna look ugly if you check back k7s q8s kk (jj?) you have to put some extra hands in. If I think about the hands I would wanna add, I think about a5o a9 or so. But the problem with that kind of hand is that I also wanna add them in my betting range cause the A is such a good blocker for ak-a10. So betting full range seems the only way.

@Jersey grinder, after reading my post and facing me as the 4bet guy. Do think folding kjs would still be the optimal play? I don't wanna be unpolite on my first post but folding top pair here seems way out of line :)