MajinVeta
64 points
3-bet pre is good in this high rake environment. These disconnected, rainbow flops are quite good for your range here and the preferred sizing is pot by alot. Your hand should mostly check, but sometimes pot. Your hand with two backdoor flushdraws mostly pots. After potting flop, you should then pot turn and stack off. As played, you can still pot-call turn, but checking also seems fine.
June 26, 2021 | 1:06 a.m.
In a high rake game, that preflop 3-bet is perfectly fine according to the plo matrix. On the flop, I believe it's a spot where you want to bet with a high frequency for a small sizing(around 1/3 or so is standard on these straight boards ofp in a 3bet pot). It's probably fine to even simplify and bet 100% for the small sizing as players at this stake are likely to play too weak. Going for the delay cbet is probably fine with our t blocker and additional equity. Barreling river some is also probably fine. You block some two pair and tt.
May 26, 2020 | 5:42 a.m.
I don't think we're supposed to do much leading on this flop and it will hardly add any ev, so I wouldn't bother. Your exact hand seems awkward to lead because it would kinda suck to face a raise. As played, pot the turn. Checking river seems fine as you block so much of villains potential hero calling range on the river. Perhaps blocking river is okay, too.
May 25, 2020 | 7:03 a.m.
The low pocket pairs actually make quite bad defends on the turn. I'd guess that's because they just straight up lack in equity and block backdoor flushdraw combos that might barrel turn. Such as J6, Q3, J3, etc. OOP is supposed to heavily favour using block bets on the turn, so when he goes around 75%, the required equity to continue is quite high.
May 17, 2020 | 7:49 p.m.
Given your flop sizing, pio is betting more around 67% on the flop. On the turn, pio really doesn't seem to like using large sizings at all. It prefers blocking while still doing a lot of checking on the 9c. The 9 is a very strong card for oop after checking-raising flop. A lot of draws have gotten there and 9x backdoor flushdraw is now paired. I reran my sim just using the larger sizing you faced on the turn in order to get more betting volume in. Vs the turn bet, 87 is close to a pure continue, but a surprising amount of strong hands are folding. 86!cc is pure folding, a9, k9, and 98 is folding around 3/4 of the time. Vs the river barrel, 87 is mostly calling. But some 8x combos are mixing folds. Having a 2, 3, 6 seem like bad cards to have along with your 8 as oop is bluffing river with hands like J6, k2, Q3, etc.
May 17, 2020 | 4:29 a.m.
For 6max, I'd focus more on preflop stats as those tend to normalize faster than postflop ones. Specifically, I'd look at fold to steal from sb and bb vs different positions, who's folding to preflop 3bets, steal frequency by position, etc. It sounds like you're in the process of building your game tree based off your stats. You could also expand on the postflop filters you've outlined to build a more complete game tree for yourself or villains. Add river cbet ip. Fold to flop cbet oop, fold to turn cbet oop, fold to river cbet oop. After you face a turn probe, how often is villain barreling? How often are you folding to that barrel?
May 15, 2020 | 6:09 p.m.
Are you looking for hu nl players for your study group?
May 15, 2020 | 5:50 a.m.
If you faced a 5-bet, your hand would have been an easy fold. But you shouldn't 4-bet to "find out if he has aces". You'll just make more money flatting his 3-bet with that hand.
Feb. 17, 2020 | 2:42 a.m.
If this board were two-tone, or rainbow, you'd probably do a lot of c-betting for 1/3 pot. But on the mono board, I think you have to do a decent amount of checking. With the T in our hand, we need less protection from t9, t8 hands, and not having a spade in our hands means we get check-raised more. I don't think you should fold turn. You have beat his bluffs and have equity vs a flush.
Feb. 13, 2020 | 9 p.m.
Fold pre. TT77$ss is the threshold for 3-betting there in that rake environment. The flop seems decent for your range. I'd have two sizings-half pot or full pot. Not a big fan of your sizing. I think your hand will probably want to just pot flop to try and get it in right away before a bunch of bad cards run out, or go for the check raise.
Feb. 13, 2020 | 8:47 p.m.
In these micro games with high rake, I'd be opening full pot to increase fold equity/build bigger pots vs weak ranges. Utg vs bb, you shouldn't really be 4-betting any single suited KKA combos. And if you're going to, go full pot. It'll get you more value with AA and give you some fold equity when you're 4-bet bluffing. When he donks half pot into, I wouldn't assume he can't have tx. In fact, it seems he's saying he has tx by doing that. As played, it's probably fine to stack off on the turn with the additional equity of the flush draw and the fact that you unblock all the wraps.
Feb. 13, 2020 | 4:15 a.m.
Definitely not. The 3-bettor doesn't interact much with the low cards on this board. I believe op is mostly supposed to use a pot sized bet when c-betting on low, dry textures at this spr. Heroes exact hand should be a check-call, imo.
Feb. 11, 2020 | 6:56 p.m.
Reran it with more of a 3-bet/fold range for ip and got slightly higher ev for ip like you said. Probably b/c that range has more tx and sets then my original sim did.
Feb. 4, 2020 | 9:59 p.m.
Aqo should never be folding pre tho. Weird mix.
Feb. 4, 2020 | 9:40 p.m.
My model involved more mixing with pairs like 9s, ts, js between call and 3-bet. Which explains why Hero was c-betting 5% less in my sim. I guess at low stakes like this, 3-betting more is going to be nice in order to take down pots pre and avoid rake. We're going to get slightly different results depending on our preflop assumptions and post strategy profile. But I still think there're some takeaways here:
-It's a high ev board for op, he'll also have sets more frequently.
-Which means we have to check a lot (70-100% depending on your assumptions).
-Heroes exact hand is probably a mix on flop.
Feb. 4, 2020 | 9:26 p.m.
3-bet is probably fine to mix in. The flop is actually quite good for op. He should have an ev advantage and nutty edge, too. He should definitely be leading. If he isn't(which he probably isn't enough at nl25), you should hardly c-bet at all. I ran a sim for this spot, and when villain had leads, you were c-betting 25%. If villain doesn't have leads, you basically pure check. And surprisingly to me, your river check seems good. AJ is betting some, but mostly prefers to check. I guess if we always bet a straight here, check-raising is too good for op.
Feb. 3, 2020 | 8:41 a.m.
Fold pre.
Feb. 3, 2020 | 8:01 a.m.
Flop seems kinda neutral. It's probably fine to check or block bet. Turn, I think your fold is good. Your equity vs the nutty portion in villain's range is kinda bad. I think you want additional equity to continue vs the turn bet.
Jan. 30, 2020 | 4:28 a.m.
Seems fine to me. You can also mix checking back on the turn. Facing the jam, turn should be a pretty decent mix between call and fold. Although, pio doesn't really like just check-jamming. It prefers smaller check-raises. I had to force jam as the only turn raise size to get decent volume. Your hand was almost 50/50 call or fold on the turn. Mains bluff for villain should be stuff like KQ, KT, QT with a club(assumed it's safe for villain to be limp calling these as he has 50% vpip).
Jan. 28, 2020 | 11:24 p.m.
Flop is very good for your range vs mp. You can just pure bet. Interestingly enough, pio seems to like larger sizings on the flop. Turn, there's a decent mix of betting and checking, but mostly betting with overpairs. Your exact combo checks around 2/3 of the time on the turn in my sim. Almost all the turn checking with QQ comes with combos that have a heart. Maybe b/c having a heart unblocks more backdoor flush combos for mp? I gave hero an allin and very small block on the Kd, and it basically pure bet. Favouring the allin(pretty much pure with qq). It seems like the K just doesn't help mp much unless he has AK or slowplayed KK. Mp is forced to mix calls with 4s, 5s, 7s, 8s, 9s, Ts, Js.
It's one of the most aggressive double paired board Equilibria I've ever seen. Given the action, the board just seems to mostly wiff mp.
Jan. 28, 2020 | 8:01 a.m.
Am I missing something here? Villain is last to act and is clearly taking his showdown by turning his cards over? Regardless of what the verbal rule is, you know he's taking his showdown. Given that you made this post, I assume you lost the pot? Seems pretty unethical on your part. Your name seems fitting.
Jan. 26, 2020 | 5:32 a.m.
Pretty much agree with Jeff. Although, I do think ip should also have all the sets at some frequency. Even if op doesn't have a leading range, we can probably still have some bets. I'd imagine there is alot of mixing and checking back in general, tho. Kings with the king of clubs might be more of a bet? Get check raised less and just have more equity.
Jan. 25, 2020 | 10:33 a.m.
If the button had raised pot pre, and had there been 100bb stacks, this type of board tends to just get potted alot by the preflop 3-bettor. The 3 and 2 just don't hit a button range much, so aces and Kx are quite strong. But given the BTN min raise(which should imply a wider pfr), and the larger spr, there's probably more block betting here for you. As Ben said, don't fold flop. Call or jam. The meta game at plo 10 is probably to underbluff this type of spot, so call seems good.
Jan. 25, 2020 | 9:28 a.m.
I don't think we should psych ourselves out because there's a weaker player in the blinds. Just play a solid strategy and let the fish do fishy things. I'd lean towards 3betting here, but calling some is probably fine. Although, given the high rake environment, you should be more inclined to 3-bet and take pots down pre or hit the rake cap post. And as far as 3betting more with hands like AQo, AJo and flatting the suited variety, I'm pretty sure that's just wrong. Generally the stronger the hand, the more we 3-bet.
Jan. 25, 2020 | 8:55 a.m.
Given there's $10.50 out there, and how short the bb is, we're committed vs the bb with all of our 4-bets. Which should really limit our ability to just pure 4-bet bluff with hands like a5s. I'd imagine we should mostly just jam if we opt to 4-bet. I know the meta in 6max nl is to generally to 3-bet smaller ip, but the sizing the co chose just seems too small and should imply a wider than normal 3-bet range(whether that's the case vs a random at nl50 is another story). So we should have a wide 3-bet range from co, it's probably safe to assume the two cold callers are relatively capped, the bb being short limits our ability to 4-bet bluff, and not having to pay high rake by just picking up the $10.50 pre all seems like good reasons to just jam it in to me.
Jan. 18, 2020 | 6:02 a.m.
I mostly play hu plo, but I think your hand is a fold or call pre. I got pretty much the exact same numbers as thiagohuang regarding how often you'll run into aces(about a third of the time). Monkersolver really doesn't like 4-betting the type of hand you have as it's equity vs AA is especially bad due to your straight outs at the top being blocked. It prefers 4-bet bluffing double suited hands with ace such as AT87, AJ76, etc. Basically, you generally want to block an ace(reducing the amount of times you'll run into aa) and you want your straight outs to be cleaner. Some other good 4-bet bluffing combos, say for the btn vs the sb, would be hands like JT54:ds, JT74:ds. QT86:ds. Infact, the Btn isn't 4-bet bluffing any KQ$ds hands vs a sb 3-bet. KQ combos just seem to have this property of performing really poorly vs AA for the reason I mentioned earlier. I'm too lazy to run a 3-handed monkersim, but I'd guess your hand is actually a fold. Maybe a call if the villain is really bad and we want to play with him. But 4-betting seems quite bad, imo.
Jan. 14, 2020 | 6:48 a.m.
Id suggest only having raises and only opening to pot when you start out. I like pot because equities run so close and something like a min raise will just price the blinds in a ton. But you'll have to use something like odds oracle to look at equities and come up with your own preflop strategy.
June 11, 2016 | 10:36 p.m.
Look at a ton of preflop equities. Get the combinatorics down. And as far as how to master that, I don't know, man. And it seems even a lot of the high stakes players have discrepancies in their preflop strategy. Some only raise the button, some raise and limp, some people defend almost everything from the bb, ect.
June 11, 2016 | 10:32 p.m.
A turn shove would be terrible. How wide are we betting turn? If it's only the ace high flush or better, then we can probably fold a decent chunk of ace high flushes on the river. But your half pot turn bet kinda seems to imply a wider betting range. Obviously we're not folding when we have the jack of spades(not saying we have to call either). I'm just not really sure how often you have the straight flush vs the ace high flush. If he's playing well, he'll probably mostly pick the j of spades and maybe the 7 of spades some(both of those cards remove two straight flushes) to bluff with. You have the 6 of spades-which removes 76:ss-so I'd probably call given your blockers and the price you're being layed(which should probably force you to defend a decent bit of ace high flushes). I don't think I'd ever bluff villain on the river without the jack of spades specifically.
8min, you go for the block-3bet with T862 on 6hAs8hAd4h. I ran a sim for Ad8h7hAc4h(as it was the closest I had in my database) for 100bb with the same action. I found a few interesting things:
-Naked Ax preferred blocking river(around 95%) and the random ones that checked tended to have pairs like A99(which makes sense as we block more hero calls). Those combos still mostly bet, though.
-87 combos, even with a flush, tend to check a lot. Guessing b/c 8 makes up a decent amount of the hero calling range vs block.
-87 with a flush never bet 3-bet as a bluff
-Ax seems to be the main bet 3-bet bluff.
I think these check down lines in SRPs are quite important and interesting to look at.
Thanks for the video!
Oct. 8, 2021 | 9:01 a.m.