Mahlzahn

Congratulations! Well done!

Thanks for your reply and everything you do in general! One more rather technical question: When investing in data or analyzing pool tendencies, how would describe the differences between zoom pools and regular tables? I am wondering if pool tendencies of i.e. NL50 6max Regular tables on Stars are transferable to NL50 Zoom? And if not, what do you consider the biggest limitations/deviations?

Nick Howard What would you recommend a person in scenario 1 to do?

Hi,

Is it possible to analyze population tendencies (MDA) with HM2/PT4 and achieve a similar quality of results like with H2N? If not, Is the edge version with the range analysis tool of H2N necessary or would the other versions already do a better job than HM2 or PT4?

I ask because I started to do MDA without H2N to save the money but have the feeling I am missing something/get less valuable and accurate results to work with...

And thanks in advance for some guidance :)

Update? There are only 8 weeks of summer left...

I did not mean to offend anyone. I thought of „old“ compared to the majority of 18-30 year old male students for example ;) Most operators focus on that demographic and I think that is a mistake. Of course 30, 40, 50 or 60+ are very diverse groups so excuse my rather simplistic categorization above but I guess people understand what I mean. Plus, for most 70+ people the technology barrier might be a little too big compared to „younger“ demographics

By the way, one thing that I consider to be very important for RIO and poker sites in general is that there are two player groups that have been largely ignored by most operators. Women and older people. Although there have been some efforts by other sites to cater women (i.e. Unibet and Stars), the second group has been pretty much ignored in the online poker community and by operators. Getting people 40/50/60+ to play and engage in online poker would be a huge push because those people have usually time (grown up children, maybe pension etc) and money. To get those people into online poker you have to be trusted, transparent, easily accessible, fun etc. A lot of those things are alreday key goals of RIO. Secondly, you have to find ways for targeted advertising for those groups as well as special promotions and offerings to make your product the go to site for them. I dont have any detailed suggestions but I think a lot of your policies go into the right direction and that you have the chance to really be the first operator that can say that they are actively working to get older people into poker because a lot of them enjoy playing/gambling/whatever you wanna call it. Just take a look at Vegas...you can find busses full of older men and woman having money and time and looking for a great gaming experience. Why not try to give them a proper offering for the time they're at home waiting for the next trip to Vegas?

Nope.

I personally love the 100bb min and don’t like the 2 buy in option at all. Yes it is better than a sliding scale but not really good for the games for all the reasons you had when deciding to go for the 100bb min ;)

The same scenario can be created for pretty much all sites based on their limit and buy in structure...

I don’t think a 2 table limit would be a good idea because it would limit the ability to get volume for regs too much and would deter them from playing on the site. I would guess that most regs and ambitious recs play something like 2-4 Zoom tables or 4-6 reg tables on average. Sure there a lot of heavy grinders out there playing more but that’s not the point here. Limiting the table count to 2 would be just too harsh on most people’s playing routines imo. A table limit in general isn’t a bad idea but I find it tough to find a reasonable number. Maybe 6? And definitely more for MTTs and Sngs. But if you implement a pretty high number then you can just not do it st all...

I think Phil said in another post that they won’t offer fast poker because splitting up the pool in reg tables and fast tables would be bad for overall liquidity. That makes sense because as a new site it is important to get games up and running and splitting the player pool makes that tougher. Just think about all the fast poker variants on smaller sites that are pretty much dead trafficwise. Even on Party the fast forward traffic is sometimes very low and not even close to the Zoom pools on Stars.

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Ofc it is important how you use it but it is also very relevant to know where the differences and cababilities are given the very different price tags for each product. Why should I buy Pio Pro for almost 500$ when I can get something similar or even better for less money?

First of all thanks a lot for sharing! Do you see any major differences between Simple and Pio when it comes to creating/working with exploits? I heard that node locking in Pio doesn’t work very well especially on turn and river and that simple does that a lot better and more reliable? Is that true?

Is there something that Pio can do that GTO+ can't?

Could you let us know why you prefer simple postflop? And maybe why you choose one program over the other (pros and cons and stuff)? Would be highly appreciated :)

If you buy crEV you will get a free copy of GTO+ which is a solver similar to Pio. I do own GTO+ but haven't used it a lot yet but want to start working a lot more on GTO strategies etc in the coming weeks/months.

What I couldnt really figure out yet is what Pio (Basic and/or Pro) can technically do what GTO+ can't?

The main difference I see atm is that Pio is widely used here on RIO and elsewhere so it should be a lot easier to get a grasp of how to use it properly. And being able to just copy stuff you see in videos and implement it in your own study routines is actually a quite big advantage. But paying several hundred $$$ (for Pio Pro compared to GTO+ i.e.) should actually come with additional features and other advantages compared to the cheaper product, right? So could someone please explain the main diffrences and why or why not one should prefer one software over the other (maybe for different use cases etc.)?

It would be highly appreciated and I guess a lot of People are lost when it comes to the decision on which solver to choose...

Are there any good videos using the software? Tutorials? Coaches using it in their vids here on RIO etc?

Thank you. Solid arguments that make sense. My impression so far is that especially the regs overadapt a lot vs light 3betting regs and that the 4bet ranges a re wider than they used to be. I see quite a lot of snapfolds vs 5betshoves and also caught some 4betbluffs when showing down. But I dont have enough sample to verify that by hard data. Just a feeling.

The call pre is not standard ofc and you're right that I should use different hand types for this for the reasons you mentioned.

Ofc I know that 200 hands is no sample for the 4bet range stat but I mentioned it to give you a first tendency. I also did not call pre because of his wide range but based on the reasons outlined in OP.

Given the fact that he is a rather weak but agressive reg I assume that he will not only 4bet JJ+, AK but something like the range i posted earlier. Expecially since I have pretty agressive stats, too. Plus, he most likely cbets almost his entire range on that flop. Against a raise he will fold his bluffs and AK. Thats at least 12 combos for AK plus bluffs. Against a tight bet/broke range (AA-JJ) I am a slight dog of 57:43. So getting it in OTF is not a bad situation to be in if I consider our FE and V range ditristibution before our raise.

But the more I think about the more I favor a call on the flop given the odds of 3,3:1

Yeah, mistake is definitely preflop. But i just wondered if some of you guys find a foldpostflop in that hand?

Thanks guys! Totally agree and should have found a fold OTR

I would bet the turn. We block most SD and get value from a lot of worse value hands and draws. Checking the turn leads us into a guessing game and a more difficult spot.

You should also post some of your thoughts and your own analysis and all available Info first so we can see why you played the hand that way. Like what is your reasoning for check/calling turn and check/folding river? What do you know about villain? What range could he bet on those two streets?

Hmm, I am not questioning that this might be right, but still I am wondering if that 1 club card really makes the difference between bluffcatchibg or folding? Sure, me having a club makes it one card less likely that he bluffs the river but in the end it is just one card...
BTW is that solver based or how did you come to that conclusion?

Ok, I think I understand the first part but why should I fold TT with a club and call TT without a club? Could you maybe clarify that a little? Thank you :)