Lievaai

@ taaazz: Nice graph there!
@ All-in: I average around 750h/hr. I play 16 reg tables max. Gonna start mixing in some zoom games in the beginning of the session though as the first 30 minutes, I don't have enough tables which affects my h/hr big time...

@ taaazz: Because I sucked at it, I'm a nit you know... :-)
@ tesla: Planning to move up when I cleared my cashbonus. Probably 3 more weeks... I've played higher before but had to move down because of brm...

Hi!
To answer some of your questions... The best regs have losing streches of over 50K hands, so I would'nt worry to much about that. From my experience I'd say that a winrate would drop around 30-40% when moving up a limit (obviously not when your a crusher that for some reason was playing way below skill level...).
I believe that you need around 250K hands to know your 'real' winrate, however, the games might change faster than most people can play 250K hands, so you might never get to know your winrate :-)

Anyway, my results so far on full ring since I made the switch back from 6-max....

around 4bb at nl50, at nl100 2.75bb

Don't know if this helps u, but I usually see my winrate drop around 30% when I move up a limit. (I also play zoom)

If he calls the turn barrel and the river bricks, would you still fire the river?
And what if he shoves over the turn barrel? We're most likely way behind, unless he's shoving his FD, wich may have the A so we're not in great shape aswell... ?

Hi, Sorry if I overreacted a little...
Why would you 2nd barrel 30-40% Pot? After all, we are semi bluffing so getting him to fold would be the best outcome, as everything he has beats our 8 high.
Besides, if you bet under half pot, you turn your hand face up and even a half decent player will notice that. After all, you would'nt be betting that small with a value hand right? So in order to balance your range, the worst thing you can do is bet that small, then yr better off checking back, at least that way you dont get c/r of your draw....
The halfpot bet on the river is only designed to get a call from an Ax or some weird KQ that somehow got there and is curious. After all I don't expect people to ch/r bluff us there so we save some if we are behind, and get more calls from worse hands.

So in this case a double barrel would be our best option?
Do you think the valuebet OTR is to thin? The reason I made a vbet were that I assumed most hands that rivered a boat would most of the time check raise flop or turn. So that leaves him with the occasional KsTs, Ax and maybe some KQo?
Also, A5, 55 would'nt always check raise river (could be wrong about this?) as my line shows alot of strenght. (allthough a halfpot bet OTR might induce him to think i'm not nutted myself? But I assume the average player on nl50 does'nt think like that?)
So all in all, I thought I could vbet against Ax, Kx, and could safely bet/fold against a c/r...
Do you think there are any flaws in this thought process?

Hi wuwei, I did end up folding the river, as I'm almost never good here.
I posted this hand because I wanted people's opinion about what the best line in this spot would be, Checking back turn, Valuebetting river yes or no, things like that

greetz

Hi, I don't quite understand your post to be honest.
I did'nt lead out (donk?), I made a cbet after stealing the co and double barreled the turn with picked up flush draw as I thought that he'd fold some Jx and maybe weak Ax type hands. Offcourse, the Q makes him some 2 pairs, straights and pair + straightdraws, but in game, i felt i'd had some FE + can hit river + if I check back, my 8 high will never be good and have to fold any river exept a club.
On the river I decided to make a thin valuebet, as I assumed that I'm ahead of his range.. I felt like AJ-AQ-55 would check raise flop or turn so I did'nt expect him to have a boat all that often. Hands like KsTs are offcourse also in his range, as well as A5 (If he did'nt checkraise flop allready).

To your statements in the second paragraph... (allthough I still think you've missread the hand as me being the bb donking?)
Your comments don't only sound rude, they are rude. I mean, even if I totally missplayed the hand... Isn't that the point of a training site? Where you help each other out in spots where you are uncertain of?
Secondly, you don't know me at all (it's my 1st post here, as I just joined), so stating that I should'nt be playing these stakes at all and that my ego gets in the way... Well, I just don't think that you have enough info on me based on this single hand history i've posted, without even me commenting on my thought process to make this conclusion about my skill level or whatever.
I guess my ego just isn't big enough to tell you my history in poker. I don't think it's relevant and I don't feel the need to justify it to someone who comes to conclusions this fast.
Also, If my ego was to big, why on earth would I be posting hands in forums to see if I made a mistake? People with big ego's don't ask if they make mistakes, they assume they play perfect...

Anyway, If this is the way you are welcomed here...