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Dont really like 3b non all in pre as we are turning our hand into a bluff on lots of flops and would feel inclined to call down light or have a higher bluff frequency know villains style

I think it hugely depends on our stack size with our hand and how this player reacts post in these spots but if villain is opening 6x as standard and from every position (bare in mind utg range seemingly stronger) im definitely VPIP'n 77 here off any stack size if folded to us, if hes spewy post too or just gives up then this also plays a big part, i'd say in game i'd be happy re-jamming sub 35bb's but like flat and play in position off bigger stacks.

Thanks for the answer, great reply and definitely an interesting spot tailored to a specific player TAG in this case. Keep up the good work.

Great Video Alex! Keep up the excellent content.
@27min with 9Tss, we overcall mulit way when you have labelled opener as weak/passive. i personally feel this particualr hand in this situation would be much preferred as a squeeze pre been OOP in SB and also not closing the action.
As played, effective stack 45 bb's-ish, we flop a pair on T6K and just fold to a 3rd pot C-Bet, although as you rightly say our hand doesn't improve much we surely still have enough to contine/ float and can win this pot on so many rivers when the turn checks through?

I think in this particular spot after our flop bet, the 2 calls and then the BB rip for 30k, with the effective stack size and the pot been around 100k anyways we have to just iso jam with our hand as its mutli way and the board is so wet we give ourselves max protection v some hands that are willing to call/fold and v other stronger hands like combo draws etc they have to pay the all in bet and we go to the streets as favourite.
Very rare we are behind here and even the rare times that we are by flopped straights or top set we are never folding.

I think squeezing hands like 78s is fine in certain spots, I would however lean towards calling over a 3b in this spot.
Reason been, you label villain as LAGGY reg so we don't really want to be inflating non-premiums v a competent player who can peel in position and put pressure on. If we do squeeze maybe sizing up to 10bb's pre is better once the button calls as we will generally be going multi way OOP.

I think the bet on the flop is kind of mandatory been the aggressor, and also think we should continue on turn with our perceived range and our image plays a big part in folding out better hands.

Yeah, agree with Jae, flatting this hand pre from HJ is not great as we have players behind IP who can squeeze behind, I would prefer to 3b if I was going to play and take the betting lead hopefully HU.
As played the flop and turn bet are only really ever good here if we follow through and empty the clip? However on this run out and the way the hand has played out, I think we are getting called at a high Frequency from UTG range.

Yeah, I think in this particular spot we would defo have a shoving range with our unmade hands and mid-range PP's.

I would however be more concerned about the CO's flatting range off 15-16bb's as opposed to the opener off +40bigs.

I think we can also have a 3b fold range with some bluffs as this puts pressure on both players on bubble and can only really continue with strong holding. We can also have a 3b call range to be balanced with our bluffs.

Hey Chris,

Hope your well, Love your content and always watch the vids so keep up the good work.

I've noticed you have recently been doing some leak finders and if you aren't still happy to do another and want a really interesting one, I have just been fortunate enough to Win a SCOOP and it was the Sunday million edition.

Some really interesting spots late on and a few erratic plays to get the win which I would love to hear your thought process on.

Let me know if this is something you would like to review would make a great multi part vid and I have the HH that I can ship over to you.

Thanks

Steve

Nasty Spot.

Surely as played we all would raise/sigh call AJdd here? (Unless there is a splurge of jams behind) I think the fact its the Sunday Million FT bubble and there is huge ICM consideration is the big difference.

Feels bad if we open/fold a hand as strong as this off a 17bb stack, especially v BB jam when he's closing action and could be putting it in with a range we are either flipping with or crushing. (surmising he's jamming some suited broadways, and ATs, 77+)

Would anyone consider just folding pre here in this situation knowing we are going through the blinds next? Still have a full orbit with a healthy re-jam stack.

Interesting point from Raph too,
''AJs is doing 22% better by limping than jamming ICM wise on a general HRC model that allows limp, 2x and jam''.

Unlucky bro, It's kind of a weird line from him as with a hand as strong as JJ and him been +150 BB's deep and OOP would think he would 3b this range of hands at a high % pre for value?

After his c/r on flop, the c/c on turn and c/r all in on river i very much doubt he's bluffing but personally if i folded river (Doubtful) I would probably assign him a range of 9Thh, J8ss, J8o, with Jh, sets and other 2p hands like maybe 78s. (Perfect hands to peel SB pre)

Played it fine. UTG opening range is more likely to be 66-JJ, + suited broadways.

On flop after he's peeled 3b and flatted our flop bet he's still more likely to have over pairs, over cards and FD's which we are crushing rather than the looser range of sets,2p combos and straights which we aren't.

Hence the reason our line seems perfectly fine.

I think the hand is played well by both players and seems pretty standard until the river where it becomes a little more interesting...

I think the river stab is fine from us as our line makes sense been the aggressor in the hand and the river K should improve our holdings a high frequency. With this been said I really cannot see villain X-Raising this river spot with complete air with little fold equity and after him calling Qxx flop with FD just seems a crazy spot to go for it ..IF we did have a hand like AK and pair the river we play it the same way and still think a bet/fold is best however even a bet on such a wet board is thin.

Obv he can easily be check ripping the top end of his range with made hands on the turn, flushes and straights etc but if he's a thinking player he also knows we will stab the river K at high frequency and he can also comfortably jam for value with sets and 2p hands especially when we label him LAG.

Against the right opponent and if we are deeper, could even consider over-betting the turn but not a great board for us would rather the turn be a K,T or a heart giving us gutter and FD however still not great and a much higher variance route.

After reading your opinion of villain this spot seems very close and i also would be tempted to flick in a call on river. However the river bet seems valuey and with your 3 bet pre and check on flop we rarely have a hand that doesn't contain some equity/showdown value as we bet flop with all our unmade hands. With this been said villain shouldn't be bluffing to wide.

I would lean to a fold but dont blame you for calling if the guy has been out of line, i'm guessing he had a random 7 or TJ?

I agree we have a easy flop C bet here, but the turn barrel means we have to empty the clip on most rivers and rep AA, AK, sets

Certainly a tough in game spot.

First option for me....I feel if V2 has been getting out of line pre as you say and has 3b several times he falls into the squeezing button (IP) with a wide range LAG style. I think the only way to play the hand v this opponent is to 4b to a decent sizing to discourage the peel and hopefully get the fold. If he does jam then we have to call off hopefully to AQ or JJ,QQ. If he has KK AA then its a cooler v him.

Second option for me i would lean towards a fold being OOP and not closing the action pre. A few reasons is no1 we are effectively giving up 2.5bb's with AKo in such an event with massive ICM considerations an number 2 is theres nothing to say V1 hasn't flatted a monster behind knowing V2 is squeezing wide.

Personally i am not in love with jamming AKo here as the reason i have just mentioned been V1 could be nutted and dont like sticking 100+ BB's in v a covering stack at this stage in the tournament for a flip.

6:56 KK

Ever have a value check back range here?

Personally If I'm in BB with QQ and a guy has opened to 350 @ 50/100 In level 1 of a live MTT then yeah I'm going to be aware of the big-ish sizing and the 2 flats behind but I'm nearly always 3 betting a hand as strong as this pre for a few reasons, main obv reason is that more often than not we have the best hand so mainly 3b for value- but also to gain info from UTG opener as if he does have KK or AA then I think nearly always he will let us know pre which gives us valuable info and helps us to now play our hand optimally post flop. (Maybe even pass depending on his 4 bet sizing).

Another reason for the 3 bet pre is to thin the field and again to gain info from other 2 players, As if CO or SB have flatted a monster behind original open then we will act accordingly.

I'd be happy with folds pre or going to flop HU been the agressor! I also agree with RalphyKid on the sizing pre- would probably take a smaller sizing and maybe go for around 1400-ish.

As played you were unlucky he flopped a set as with the FD on flop as he could easily be shuving Broadway diamonds altough it's still a tough spot I'm not folding QQ on this board with Sooo many back doors! BDFD, BDSD's there's just lots of good turn cards for us and we have Qd too!

Possibly one of the toughest games i have ever seen which makes these videos priceless. Very good explanation and will follow all your videos. One hand which interested me was the JJ in bb vs MP open @43mins. Villain had been super active, getting in light vs you and just stacked you house vs house the hand before. Could we not justify a 3bet here for value and be cool with getting it in? Was the reason we didn't due to stack size? If 100bb is this more of a straight forward 5b spot?

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22mins the 33 vs 103s hand when you call river. What is the worst flush you are calling with here if any?

Do you use your HUD at all or pop ups? It seemed like all your decisions were based on standard plays or hand strength.

Hi nice vid! Just a quick question: Why do you limp the sb with hands like Ax and K5s? Is it just a set range as it doesn't look like you are basing it on stars or anything? Could we just not open these to 3x and expect to win over the longrun?

yeah i don't get involved here especially when you know BB is a thinking player and knows kind of what your thinking by jamming here which means he can call you wider.

hands we are crushing or doing well against

imo I think option:
1) Seems awful
2) Not great surely still marginally+EV? Previous comments suggest that its really bad and yeah i hate calling off in these spots but when villain is capable reg who is applying pressure here i think he puts us to the test a lot and jams hands we are crushing like small pairs and suited broadway's etc? Its also a great spot for maximum leverage been near bubble?
3) Seems awful
4) Seems fine too but we are going HU OOP with ''Very Aggressive'' player and feel we can be blown off on a lot of boards when we don't have the betting lead. Suppose the merits are if we flop well or have a board we can bluff catch on then maybe he gifts us chips.
5) Seems optimal vs this opponent
6) Also feel this is absolutely fine, Little big but still a decent pick up.

Prefer a peel with position on active opener with a hand like 77.

yeah it's certainly a tricky spot here with 10 bigs left knowing we can almost treble up closing the action with such a strong holding but i think i would find a tight fold in the BB. Main reasons are you label UTG+2 as tight so far and if he has not been out of line then i doubt he is re-shoving over UTG's range with players behind holding rags, Think we can safely give him 88+ and AJ+....I mean granted we are ahead or flipping against some of these hands but i think a lot of the time we are beat and need help.

Also with our position at table here and now only having the SB to get through we can pick a better spot next orbit and make position shuvs and have fold equity it seems a safer option than to be playing a guessing game vs a suspect range

Sometimes if there's dynamic here and tables a bit loose or jam happy then call but im just saying think i fold.

Yeah against a capable opponent and a guy you label as a 3 bet heavy reg then I find the call with nut flush.

It's still a tough spot though as his range is so polar here, When villain opts for this line Pre been OOP i don't think he slows down often with bluffs or a value range when the board is super wet and he has the betting lead.

He could well be 3b'n weaker hands like JT,QT,QJ,QK,KT,KJ that have flopped equity and when we call flop and the turn pairs he can barrel and rep a nut range when he decides to to continue telling his story.

Value hands he is raising are ones you have already assigned him in HH, could ad TT in there but AA,QQ,AT,AJ,AQ,AK are all in his 3b value range.

However i don't see him jamming river with all of these value hands if he has significant showdown value.

RalphyKid Good point bro and of course folding a hand as weak as 33 to a 3 bet pre here is optimal.. But just to try and justify it a little in live MTT's it's not exactly the worst play ever or certainly not awful with it been a re-entry format we can open up our ranges a little pre especially multi way and off a 20K stack @100/200

Also the action pre... UTG+1 opens, we have a call behind and such a small 3 bet to 1500 (We have to fold if the 3 bet is bigger) + a cold call! So now I feel if we do flick it in here we are more than likely going multi way without further action as players behind and UTG+1 are never 4 bet bluffing here giving pre flop action and if we do get any action then fair enough kiss good bye to our 7.5bigs we can live with that!

I know it sounds a little fishy and it's obviously not the greatest spot but if we do flop our set I have to agree we get paid a huge % of the time vs LAG style opponents and if we don't flop well we simply fold. There's no hard decisions on later streets.

After we do flop this board though agree with Rapha we need to bet bigger on turn But your question was Bad river call by you?? I say no!