KaWab00ng4
4 points
Im not sure if the flop is a valueraise or a bluff raise?
I'm on the bluff side.
1)villain is unlikely to cbet this flop with air and given the amount of draws in your perceived range/his range composition, you're probably very rarely getting a fold otf. There are few good turns for your range, why would you bloat the pot oop vs a strongish range?
As I said before:
I choose to x/r because I'm pretty uncomfortable to play this hand as a bluffcatcher OOP when he contibet on this flop; and I can rep A LOT on the flop e probably on every turn. [...] But once he calls the flop (with this texture) I'm pretty sure that he can't have a very strong range so the bet on the turn is mandatory IMHO.
May 8, 2015 | 8:15 p.m.
SB: $100.00 (Hero)
BB: $100.00
UTG: $100.00
MP: $108.54
CO: $75.23
Rake is $1.22
May 8, 2015 | 10:14 a.m.
BN: $100.00 (Hero)
SB: $103.31
BB: $100.00
UTG: $110.46
May 8, 2015 | 10:11 a.m.
I think A5 works here much better as XC. If you hit A on turn, you are likely to win large pot.
On the others turns?
May 7, 2015 | 10:25 p.m.
I would use a smaller sizing though, because I want to represent sets more credibly (more valuehands in our range, harder for villain to bluffcatch).
I should consider this.
May 7, 2015 | 10:24 p.m.
I choose to x/r because I'm pretty uncomfortable to play this hand as a bluffcatcher OOP when he contibet on this flop; and I can rep A LOT on the flop e probably on every turn.
Wouldn't you rather like to x/r some fdraws, straights and sets?
I don't check how many bluff combos I need in my range to balance all my sets, 2P and straights, but probably I'm very borderline with this hand. I probably x/r a little wider on this flop because as I said before, I can rep a lot of strong hands/draws but I think I've forgotten that he cbet on this flop (bad for him?).
But once he calls the flop (with this texture) I'm pretty sure that he can't have a very strong range so the bet on the turn is mandatory IMHO.
May 7, 2015 | 10:22 p.m.
BB: $100.00 (Hero)
UTG: $167.78
MP: $69.93
CO: $108.96
BN: $100.00
Rake is $3.00
May 7, 2015 | 5:37 p.m.
Nice! :)
May 4, 2015 | 11:48 a.m.
No reads/stats :(
May 3, 2015 | 12:54 p.m.
I bet JJ-TT for value if villan can bluffcatch after our double check Ahigh/PP types of hands. But after this
No if you have a sensible player image, first because on a paired river imho I think he does not expect that you bluff so often , and second because you might still have a certain number of Qx combos (AQ,QTs,JQs if you 3bet them), TT,JJ which you can play in that way.
why you bet JJ-TT?
May 3, 2015 | 11:31 a.m.
Why you play in that way hands like JJ, TT?
May 3, 2015 | 10 a.m.
Well, in both hands seems we have to fire at least 2 barrels because we have
- range advantage;
- FE+EQ (better in hand two);
- blocker (better in hand one)
How much this plan is influenced by AKxs/KQxs flops?
May 3, 2015 | 9:38 a.m.
3barrel is probably a nice plan. I've considered it in my first reply but Disharmonist says
...and you never have to fire a 2nd or 3rd shell here.
It depends only by run outs? Or this isn't a good plan?
May 3, 2015 | 9:27 a.m.
Doesn't expect too much herocall?
May 3, 2015 | 9:18 a.m.
I think exactly the same way about this kind of softwares. But without doubt, we can consider them like a good way to improve our game in certain situations and with certain objectives. Take a look at the second hand when you can :)
May 2, 2015 | 11:13 p.m.
Obviously I agree
May 2, 2015 | 10:50 p.m.
What can I expect the reg's range to be when he CC a 3b OOP? We're pretty deep with a fish in the pot
Some regs CC with an uncapped range here because they wants to play vs fish and not isolate vs you; something like a depolarized strong range. OR range and your 3bet range can change this scenario.
May 2, 2015 | 10:48 p.m.
Very clear TP in the first part of your reply. I agree.
I 3bet this hand because As5s is one of my polarized 3bet bluff combos in a vacuum, based and designed on some general assumptions. Probabily included in a GTO 3bet range BTNvsCO but I don't check this with Snowie or GTORB.
May 2, 2015 | 10:28 p.m.
My bad again. I'm sorry for this, but I did a little of confusion between hand 1 and 2.
May 2, 2015 | 10:20 p.m.
What we rep with a delayed cbet? If you bet the turn what is your plan on the river? Double barrel flop and turn shold probably be better than delayed+bet. I'm not scared of a x/r, but I think that this kind of boards are supergood for our uncapped range but good for villain range too (strong hands, bluffcatchers and a small % of air); but villain has the positional advantage. So, in my mind, I have to 3barrell on a lot of run outs (semibluff) or shutdown and play my equity. Makes sense?
May 2, 2015 | 9:58 p.m.
My bad. Update with the correct hand at http://www.runitonce.com/nlhe/how-to-handle-highflops-in-3bet-pot-ha-2/
Someone delete this topic please :)
May 2, 2015 | 9:47 p.m.
BN: $100.00
SB: $38.45
BB: $100.00 (Hero)
Rake is $0.99
May 2, 2015 | 9:47 p.m.
CO: $100.00
BN: $101.00 (Hero)
SB: $122.36
BB: $121.07
UTG: $88.47
Rake is $0.96
May 2, 2015 | 5:38 p.m.
CO: $100.00
BN: $101.00 (Hero)
SB: $122.36
BB: $121.07
UTG: $88.47
Rake is $0.96
May 2, 2015 | 5:37 p.m.
Check/? range OTF as PFA for Essential :)
April 21, 2015 | 10:36 a.m.
As you move farther from the button, it's not going to work as well because different positions are likely 3betting significantly different range.
Yes, I imagined. Thanks again Steve!
April 21, 2015 | 9:58 a.m.
Hi Steve,
I'm back in "designing preflop ranges" action :D. I don't understand when in your video (time stamp 10:27) your db check says to us that we getting 3bet 30% of the time; how this frequency help us in our work? This 30% are cumulative for SB and BB, but we switch from a cumulative approach to a BTNvsBB dynamics (time stamp 11:42) when we have to desing our range and apply 16% (b minus an hypothetical CC %).
I'm trying to construct an UTG preflop range for 6max. In this position we risk 3bb to win 1.5 (1.5/4.5= 33.%), so if we faced a 3bet more than 33% of the time we can't OR/f profitable. We have 5 potential 3bettors:
(1-b)(1-b)(1-b)(1-b)(1-b) > 0.67
1-b > 0.92
b < 8%
I check my db and I faced a 3bet 20.5% of the time (cumulative), so I can OR/f with profit because 20.5%<33%.
- How often a player behind me 3bet vs OR? 8 - (2 or 3, I suppose)= 5%
- We risk ((9*2.25)-3)/(17.25+9+3+1.5) = 56% ----> MDF = 44%
- 0.44*0.05= 2.2% (QQ+, AKo)
- KK+ have >= 50% equity vs that range
- 12 4bet value combos
- EV (5b jam) = f30.75 + (1-f)(201.5e - 91)
- I choose 29% equity hands group and F= 51%
- 12 bluff combos
- My opening range from this position is 13.12% (174 combos) and I 4bet 1.81% (24 combos) of all hands (13.7% of my open).
- MDF: 9/13.5= 66% --->34% to defend (at least)
- I have to flat 3bet with (0.34*0.1312)-0,0181= 2.6%
Makes sense? Thank you.
April 20, 2015 | 3:40 p.m.
Well done Steve. Very clear and useful!
April 14, 2015 | 3:25 p.m.
Ok. I will continue to work on it and write again if I have other concerns. Thank you for your help! I appreciate it very much :)
I agree with both
May 9, 2015 | 10:09 a.m.