Joeri Van der sman
14 points
I usually call here with the intention to make a play later in he hand. However i feel like it might very well be better (if oop) to fold. I've been running into top two with a low flush or a set a lot lately in these spots.
Dec. 11, 2012 | 10:06 p.m.
@chum, its 40bb cap game, so he was allin.
@joseph i personally don't think there are many players who ever bet-fold this hand vs a player who raised the flop. The worst hands he calls our flopraise with have some equity versus our perceived range, so bet-folding those will be a pretty bad play on his part. And a river 4, 5, 6 or j, might cost you 20k value if he checks behind. So i was wondering whats hac's reasoning was.
@hac, another question. Is your raise small range on the flop in the 5669 just wraps, sets and air, or do you also like it with top two? Or do you like to do it with like 789j'ish (and do you stack off if he ships)? So do you have both a raise small and a pot flop range. Your answer is hugely important to whether he ever bet-folds turn
@joseph i personally don't think there are many players who ever bet-fold this hand vs a player who raised the flop. The worst hands he calls our flopraise with have some equity versus our perceived range, so bet-folding those will be a pretty bad play on his part. And a river 4, 5, 6 or j, might cost you 20k value if he checks behind. So i was wondering whats hac's reasoning was.
@hac, another question. Is your raise small range on the flop in the 5669 just wraps, sets and air, or do you also like it with top two? Or do you like to do it with like 789j'ish (and do you stack off if he ships)? So do you have both a raise small and a pot flop range. Your answer is hugely important to whether he ever bet-folds turn
Dec. 11, 2012 | 10:01 p.m.
Hac, whats your reasoning for not shipping turn with 66xx on 236x? I understand your reasoning to check, but i don't get the call. If you push he will call most of the time, getting 1:4, you protect from gutshots/overpairs, and a lot of scary rivers will go check-check if you have the best hand.
Dec. 10, 2012 | 4:08 p.m.
i'm with validand_notinuse. I would rather do this with bad aces. I feel like most of the value from this play (with these stacksizes) is him loosing a stack on 33x and you making him fold equity hands (splits) on 678. And like the other reasoning of valid in that post.
Dec. 10, 2012 | 4:04 p.m.
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Dec. 11, 2012 | 10:13 p.m.