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thanks, still looking for a complete answer where we know what hands are profitable to GII here from our 3betting range. In this particular spot, I think you rarely see a MP shuve 97BB in with anything else than AA or some sick connected hand like JT98ds etc. Its just in this spot that MP went for it with the 5high, which I dont really understand.. but anyway

Why would MP have a 20% range when he 5bets the 4bet? doesnt seem like a winning play to me after only having 3BB in the pot..

Are you sure this is the right calc? I figured it could be something like:

Mainpot: (32%75) - (68%22.20) = 8.904$
Sidepot: (42%50) - (58%50) = -8$

If this calc is right, we're making .904$ before rake, and by folding we lose 2.80$ so it seems like call call is better.

If your cals is right, we're losing 2.20$ by call calling which makes it a bit better to fold considering rake.

If neither of us have done the calc right, im still curious :D

And the question then becomes, if BB is 4-betting AKK to fold to the 5bet, does it become profitable to get it in with a much wider range then KQJTds?

In the spot we call with the AJxx suited to the J and flop comes J87 and we are OOP, arent we overfolding here if we just fold AJ to a cbet? Is it better to continue with QT82 here, or other pairs with gutters? How do we respond to these boards OOP if we fold our top pair top kicker if villain is cbetting too much? thanks, great vid btw :)

Great vid, I like the Pace, and you could even rund more tables I think!
I would like a vid with breakdowns of when to bluff and when to give up in 3-bet pots :)

Yeah, but its not important what stakes we are playing, Im just thinking if this is a good candidate at all. We dont have many QQ or escpecially not many TT combos, so I feel like we need some other hands as well :)

Give any reasons to check fold flop OOP vs IP?
Again, what hands are better to 3-barrel this?

I think its a cool spot, thought about it for sometime and here is my opinion:

Lets say BB has a pretty tight 3-bettor BBvsBTN which most players are in PLO50z. His range should crush this board, when he checks flop I think it quickly polarizes his hand to a checkraise monster or a hand a hand that has showdown value that doesnt want to get raised. If he has naked Aces or Aces with an 8 he is proabably check calling this flop. If he has somethink like AKJ7ds hes proabably check calling the flop. When the turn is a jack and he bets around 80%, to me, it looks like either KJxx, AA with some backup like a T for a nut gutter that wants to protection bet, or just a hand like AKKxss that wanted to slowplay for some reason. Other than this you have the random stabs like a bare flush draw, gutter with a J or just AKxxds or something wanting to protect. I think its a pretty standard call here in your spot with the two pair + open ender.

On the river though, I feel like we want to have a king to bluff (eventhough we might be overbluffing betting a king here?) just because he is always calling us with AK+ on this river if he doesnt have spades. Having the QT here I think is bad for us as well because we want him to have all of the pickedup-wrapcombos on the river.

Can someone come up with some hands that we check back flop with on this board, calls turn with and can bluff river blocking some KK, AK and AA combos with? I think people here are overcalling in this spot too so having a 3 makes it an easy value bet imo.

I wouldnt consider you to do it being the biggest nit at the tables, but if he had hearts + a pair or better he would barrel the turn again for sure.
Lets say we lead flop, we're repping two pair+ or a combo draw. When we check turn, it looks like we're giving up, and most players would bet the king to protect their equity, but on the other hand, if villain bets, he eliminates a lot of the fds from his range because he most likely would check back turn with a pair + fd like AAhh. But I agree, sometimes we get snapped of by a fish that floated the flop with 8JJ5hh, but I think exploitively you can bet a lot of hearts after calling this turn. Having the A high blocker makes him having a flush about 5% less likely but hes calling with any flush on the river anyway.

I think you could lead here some of the time.
Lets say: Co raises 35%, BTN cold calls 35% of his hands but 3-bets AA, and we defend 60%.
On this flop we are about even in equity except for BTN having 32% against our and COs 33.5%.
Leading here is speculative, but seeing we block the nut flush draw, I think its good because we get raised less often, we dont get raised by wraps without fd or just the JTcombo with fd. We would like to lead our sets on this flop, and we have a set on this flop more often than CO and BTN. If we lead and CO raises, we call, and call Kriver to bluff hearts and value bet our full houses and flushes. If we get raised with our full houses i think we have to fold considering villain would never take this line without top set or middle set.

This is either a great troll or just a complete lack of any knowledge about PLO25, PLO in general and hand strength

^I feel like this should be a check with our entire range, and check call everytime, and call turn as well. With stacksizes in mind its proabably best to checkraise all in turn, but check call if deeper

How often does villain have a set here? Not very often. Seems bad to be looking for stacking a set on a flop where a 30% RFI -AA combos flops a set 11% of the time.

I have a couple ways of playing this flop:
1. If villain is competent and aware of our range, check call, check raise turn. This is just the perfect hand to protect or check calling range with in this spot. If your never checking this hand, what hands are you check calling that can call turn? Maybe rundowns that flopped two pair and a gutter or the nuts but we dont have a lot of them. Villain will also barrel this board a ton with hands with no equity against us.

1. If villain thinks we are fishy potting this flop with all of our AA and AKK combos to get it in, he overcommits with a lot of hands here without equity, but at the same time, we lose a sick amount of value here. Villain is proabably folding all of his hands that flop less than middle pair, folding all his overpairs and so on. We become super polarized in this spot.

2. As played, why are you shuving flop? Villain is stating that he is shuving 100% of turns and you got the nutterbutters! Let the fish comitt his stack on turn, let his bluffs continue.

My favorite line here, check call, check raise turn :) or check call turn if its a complete brick like the Ace or a rainbow deuce

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Propokertools are great for running sims :) there is also a "syntax help" option where you can learn how to type in different ranges and such! hope that helps