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I enjoyed this format (and have enjoyed revisiting your tournament analysis while some series have been running). Appreciate the work you put into all of these.

Love the PLO addition. Local Minnesotan here in Minneapolis now, but the northern part of the state with a cabin sounds niiiiiiiice.

Quite a bit delayed, but been studying ICM outputs and this was an excellent series to circle back to. You the man, Richard 8-)

Much appreciated I love you

Really enjoyed this. Been a recent project of mine personally to check out some different turn sizes across different flop lines, and what Monker settles on. Right up my alley :) Thanks and appreciate the work you put in here.

Lot of interesting spots in such a short amount of time, and really appreciate the solver work on the side.

Loved the segment on lookups in the KQT7ds spot. You kind of gave me a similar response (def. not a rant lol) long ago in the forums that I appreciated but don't think I fully grasped until really efforting to both translate what Monkersolver is up to for a spot and why (or like fiddling with a game tree or locking hands, and observing either's effects) and paying a bit closer attention to opponents and observing how that spot plays in reality

Ah sure, that makes sense. The lack of comfort you mentioned feels like a very common aspect of PLO.

Our x/call range does feel kind of throttled here if we indeed x/raise a lot of ~two-pair no flush draw types. At that point, the bricks probably become pretty good for BTN in a x-bet-call sequence because we exhaust so many value hands in a flop x/raise line. The ability with our hand to x/c and lead pot on bricks is pretty fun, to put our opponent in the position to make bad turn decisions in a spot where we have more clarity after seeing a turn. (On turns, Vision leads pot with about half their range on average on low/medium spades, and about ~33% of their range on blank-ish non-spades. So the pot lead is definitely a thing if you save more value in x/call. It doesn't like heart turns for us because in solver land flush draws compose a pretty big chunk of our flop leads and x/raises.)

BTN's hand is pretty interesting. Not much hope going forward. Kind of has both good and bad card removal. Would assume it's mixing check/small bet just like AJT3/AJ94 of similar suit composition (AJ93 is not in a BTN's 3-bet range vs UTG in Vision -- and neither is that 60%-ish sizing)

What did you take in-game and what were your reasons for it? (Just mental exercising over here, if you prefer not to share, no worries)

Liking the check-call route looking for safe turns. Can easily be dominated here, or in a flippy spot. Can lead some bricks or picked up straight/flush draws.

Yeah either-or should be fine with this combo, no worries. If you shove he shouldn't be folding much, once he pots. Calling allows to fold a few bad turns vs another barrel, though the cards that hit us probably look like they really hit us, as far as getting paid. It seems like a spot where if BB is over-potting these spots then it's an easier shove, if he's more selective then call has more merit, and would assume the deeper we get this becomes more of a call vs pot c-bet.

Great video as always.

Just trying to find the balance for 55 combos for villain's 8755 hand IP on 995r, but did that one seem like a call on flop because of its 87 component? And after getting to the turn with its flop raise, it seems like a turn bet as well without containing a heart, and similar kind of logic on the river? Seems like the slower plays on the Kh turn would be like A55x or holding a heart (esp. Ah).

Hopefully that made sense. That's as far as I could go for finding some balance with the 55s.

I have really enjoyed this series. Can't say that I'll play any stud variants in the near-future due to certain site offerings in the USA, but have always found these games really interesting and would tune into more videos if you guys continue this series.

I'd be up joining a discord group, playing 100 atm

BB's calling range vs an UTG open in solver world is pretty tight and their 3-bet range pre is pretty narrow. They are behind on AA/KK but have more 88 and 3s (or low trips in general) than UTG, as well as the 99-QQ region if that matters (but should be reasonably connected combos of those at least). They should be getting leads on a board like this if you up the ranks of the cards by 1 or 2.

Makes some sense in Vision how having a heart makes for aggression, as well as the weaker backdoors (tri-suit), but actual flush draws check back since they get devalued when tightening BB's range heading into the turn, and having none at all unblocks continues. That check-bet frequency for AKJ9 just about matches up with how to play the spot with our range, and it's pretty similar for other high-card holdings like it, so we would be overbluffing if adding our no flush draw hands into c-bets. It looks like 20% of our AKJ9 holdings here have no heart blocker and no backdoor flush draw.

Vision's been a nice gateway for me to working with Monkersolver itself, and thinking deeper about the game and studying more efficiently. (There is also a free Monkersolver version for turn+river sims for a less intimidating taste of it.)

With either you'll have to blend a solver's interpretation of a spot with how that spot is played in reality and form some conclusions of your own (easiest example is how many people really play as tight preflop vs an open raise as a solver says they should), but I like having a solid baseline for them that was missing pre-Vision/Monker and also feel like it provides sharper observations of opponents as a result.

Yeah there's the difference in popularity, but there's also the issue of actually getting PLO players to sign on and share their insights. Was chatting with a RIO rep a while back about this and they've put in a lot of effort to recruit more PLO specialists, but it's been understandably tough to add to the RIO squad (was also mentioned in the monthly elite call with Richard last month).

Ton of hugely valuable content in the archives though. I know I'm never going to take everything in from a video first time through, so I like to re-watch them myself, and certain insights from NL players have a pleasant carryover to the PLO streets.

Value. For example, BB just doesn't have many flushes after flop play. At about 17:40 (on the turn at that point) there was a mention of why, low-SPR and all to start with, and then starting at about 30:30 for potting river, similar reasons stated such as the flush advantage based on action on previous streets.

Maybe BB could have the absolute board crushers to protect the line that was taken (never studied that stack depth)? But if we weren't betting our specific hand on the river then we wind up with way too many bluffs and/or miss out on too much value versus a range that we are doing very well against.

Hope I interpreted that correctly and didn't twist anything.

Well, I know this video is a bit older...I like to re-watch your videos to see what insights I may have forgotten and what I have retained -- turns out there's a lot of the latter, so thank you for your excellent teaching! And definitely enjoyed this format of going through hands.

So at ~10:30 with the "slow play" of the wrap IP, I noticed at least through Vision's Practice mode that this is a hand class that protects the checking range for the PFA, either IP or OOP, and primarily the check-calling range if OOP, across a variety of boards in the "Unpaired" section.
Found the consistency of the passive line pretty interesting, so wanted to share that.

Thought this was a really fun and insightful video into 7-card stud, and would tune into future videos of this series if it were to continue.

edit: as someone who's studying PLO I also enjoyed the major importance of paying attention to every single known card lol

Really enjoying this series (and the PLO Puzzle). Was nice to hear from you on the monthly Elite call too. Hope all is well!

So glad I rewatched this, because I had completely forgotten about those final notes.

Really appreciate all the work you've put into this series. Thank you!

Thanks for working on this one. Playing through PLO50 and had found myself making very similar pre-flop adjustments to the ones you mentioned.

Come for the poker, stay for the puns.

Great stuff. Happy holidays, appreciate all the work you put in for your videos.

No worries at all, I agree. I should've expanded further on what I mentioned as far as caution towards it. Like I found that route useful for getting a grasp on things like paying attention to how a hand is suited or double-suited, or a little further down the road like what hands a solver likes to block or unblock in certain 4-bet spots (against its own 3-bet ranges). This was also quick for me to do personally, as far as efficiency goes, but I don't know how mutual that is and could see sunk cost issues if it isn't. It's also overall more engaging and fun interacting directly with solvers, to go along with your much more detailed and crucial points.

It's not every single spot, but for way cheaper you can utilize the Copy to Clipboard option in Vision and get ranges for the spots they've made available.

When I read the title I thought Chimp EV could've been related to spots where you can build a big stack pre-rebuy (or pre-bubble?) and then really push around stacks later in the tournament. Go big and beat your chest afterwards, or bust. Chimp EV!

LOL'd pretty hard hearing it in real-time.

+1 to Streaks addition <3