Haru

hey. You are supposed to bet kk on kt7r in position multiway. 1. Any good player fold wrap+one pair except aqj since other wraps are not nutty. This is very important since they have enough equity vs your hand.
2. If you are getting raised. You are always favorite unless your preflop hand selection is horrilble. There is no bare kk in 6 card.

With your hand on this river, I would give up since your hand is the worst hand to bluff. Fish doesn't care whether his range is capped or not. If you didn't have diamond flushdraw, then yeah I would play the same.

c/r vs passive guy from the btn is probably bad, because btn's has many tt jj combos, and he bets into 4way pot.

cc otf is pretty standard play given our exact hand IMO. If we didn't have no backdoor fd, b/f maybe better than c/c (depending on villians).

I would not c/r readless, since we get it in pretty bad if he also have some piece.
But a better way to analyze this hand is to construct your c/c c/r betting ranges otf with your 3betting range, not just with your hand.

just pot otf. The fact that both players cover you is good for you, and if you knew this pre sqeeze is fine imo.

Problem with your hand ott is that you don't have many nut outs and you may have to play river out of position vs one or two opponent. I would check/call instead of potting.

River is clear check. Hero's range definitely have decent % of overpairs so that V cannot bluff much. Also not good enough to value bet

I am saying that if villain fold naked overpairs and no equity hand to a bet, then c/c range has decent number of flush draw, especially given that you block no diamond and block 7,9

If you want to be balanced or your opponent has decent c/r range (which is quite possible from tag with given stats), our hand is somewhat clear check/back hand for following reasons:

1) We don't block any diamond so that villain can check/raise more often, and also it is not balanced to bet on diamond turn with no diamond blocker.
2) We do have bdfd so that we can improve on many turns, compared to the same hand without bdfd, so that we don't wanna waste our equity by bet/folding.

I would like to bet with 1+ diamond or no bdfd with the same holding instead if I care any balance.

One more comment: If you believe that the villain is overfolding to a flop bet, isn't villain's flop calling range has decent portion of flush draw because the villain fold the naked overpair or overcards without flushdraw?

Okay. It seems that vs this player we have close to break even call (I definitely assume that villian is shoving more than 2p or wraps.)

In this case, I rather not cbet or pot/call, since it really hurts to bet/fold this hand. In fact, vs good players who has many rundowns our hand is very good candidate to check back for few reasons

1. we don't have enough equity vs villains c/shoving range.
2. we have many good turn cards (due to the fact that we have two bdfd)

If we had bare AA with no bdfd, this becomes bet/fold hand imo.

Pokerjuice have up to 50% rfi ranges, so no. I have not seen a program that tells you 59-60% hands

are you suggesting limping 9943ss type hands? It makes sense to limp bad suited Ax hands, but I think 9943 hand is just bad vs aggressive players. maybe 7753 type hands is better (side cards are not trash).

Okay. Thanks for the input.

It is clear call imo. Here is your equity vs his possible ranges.
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=Js8d2c&g=oh&h1=AAKK%3Accdd&h2=JJ%2CJ8&s=generic

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=Js8d2c&g=oh&h1=AAKK%3Accdd&h2=JJ%2CJ8%2CKJT%2CJT8%2CJT9%2CT98&s=generic

Vs this villain, I think bet/calling is totally fine since we expect him to have so many marginal hands, and we have many good turn barrel cards to shove turn.

Vs regs who is likely to have many rundowns, it seems close since regs have many rundowns that hits this board.

Thanks for the reply.

I agree that we have limping range, then it is good to include bad playability but reasonably nutty type hands. I also realized later that we didn't put a single penny in 6max but we had 0.5bb in huplo case. That should change quite a bit.

Regarding your answer to 1), are you sure that you want to open far less than 70? do you wanna open <50%? I don't think any ps plo500 regs have btn rfi less than 50%, though most of regs have 3bet steal(either from sb bb) 10-16%. Well, if you didn't mean that btn rfi<50, suggest me a number for btn rfi.

c/f vs pot donk and of course fold vs reraise, not close at all.

I don't see much point in raising preflop. I would raise better KK, but this hand plays well multiway but not good when getting 3bet from blinds or UTG.

Your play is definitely over-defending. Even if your 3betting range is only AA, blocking 5,6,7 or 8 rather than blocking Ad is much better for bluff-catching. The way to counter-attach his strategy is by 3betting more connected hands and check-call this flop with 2p or straights. The total pot is way too big compared to the flop pot size or turn pot size so we don't need to defend this much.

I am folding on the turn with this exact hand as my default.

I think that c/raising some of 2x together with 3 with A4 A5 gutshots on the flop is decent balance (and we don't have to raise big). Also we can c/r some hand that blocks QQ,KK,AA and shut up when get called.

The reason you mentioned "our hand can't really get better and his range can." is not just true for our actual hand but true for all of our hands which is not 2x+ since most turn cards are overcards to 3. If you use this reason to check-raise then we definitely raise way too much....like raise most 3x or 44-TT hands.

If you think that UTG have AA 100%, then I would call 4bet and see a flop. probably better than folding or shoving (One has to check with PJ for example.)

Either way is fine. bet is my standard unless we are deep, but if btn is aggro c/c is better i think.

3betting is totally fine. I believe this is far better than weak AA. The biggest mistake for this hand is on the flop. We don't achieve much by cbetting so check/call normal size bet is standard imo.

I would cbet vs BB. there are few turn cards we can barrel (turn cards that improves our hand a bit). On Jx turn we could triple barrel (unless the river is club or board paired) but I guess this is not that much +ev at micro stake.
I would consider betting river though. not blocking any club helps.

Pre is super easy call. gread odd to set mining.
I would check/call instead of donkbet. As played, I like calling/reevaluate. Note that btn raised us when sb is behind (is this correct? HH is a bit confusing), so even if btn does not have QT, he has decent equity vs us so that shoving does not achieve much.

Yeah I screwed up.. I meant QJ not KQ. What I meant for b) is that we dont have to worry about getting exploited by bet folding river with our 99J hand since our valuebetting range on ther river has many straights mainly due to the fact that most of our 2p combos are raising otf or ott.

I don't call this UTG open mandatory, but surely +EV open unless playing postflop really bad.
I would raise ott, and my range probably is {T8, some combos of Acc with T or J9}.

I agree that your sizing on the river is bad if you want to induce bluffs, but I want to point out that there are not many bare QQ KK in BB's range anyway.
We are deep vs BB, and he could just call pre and see a flop if BB had bad KK or QQ. The fact that BB 3bet vs UTG tells that most of QQ KK in BB's range has KQ on the river. If BB's 3betting range vs UTG is very wide, BB does not have many bare KK QQ combos for you to induce. I think you are too obsessed with inducing bluffs where there are not many.

I prefer bet 20/ decide vs a shove readless with our hand readless. Our river value-betting range should be T9+ (at least 89+) and lots of them are straights so that our bet/call range is protected by straights. I don't think calling/folding vs shove matters a lot readless but i think bet 20/fold is much better than checking back otr at least.

folding is totally fine vs sb donk against 3 players. Our bad relative position vs sb matters a lot.

Villain's play is horrible imo. I would not try to understand this play.

very confused too. Villain blocks Kc, but he also blocks nut straights and two pair, which makes it more likely that you have a flush more often. Maybe he just misread the hand?