GasPanic
38 points
The solver wants to get it in on the flop. Against a balanced range but even against a range of solely QQ,AA and AQ. But calling can't be bad. Just don't fold at any point.
Feb. 18, 2019 | 3:26 p.m.
Yes and you want to lead and thus compound the problem. What are you going to do on any card that isn't a 9 or a 6 when called? Check/call is the play and check/fold if it goes bet/raise.
I would also say that check/raising (particularly vs BTN or CO) is a much superior play to leading.
Feb. 18, 2019 | 3:14 p.m.
Why would it be disastrous? The only person we can get it in with now is the button. Against the others we're still too deep. Yes, we most likely have the best hand but many turn cards will be bad for us and it's unlikely we'll have the best hand by the river. That's the way with top two on low boards. Just try play a small pot.
Feb. 18, 2019 | 9:14 a.m.
Pretty much this. Although you should be check-raising very infrequently on an ace high board you should just take the free card with your weak draw. There are some good turn cards for you (any T, J, Q, K, diamond, club, 5) that will allow you to continue but the hand is too weak to call a check raise. Check back the turn.
Feb. 18, 2019 | 9:09 a.m.
c/c flop, c/c turn. Seems pretty straight-forward. Leading the flop is a terrible idea. If we get raised we have to fold and if we called we are clueless on many turn cards.
Feb. 17, 2019 | 2:43 p.m.
Ran the sim overnight and have some very accurate results now. 3-way, accurate stack sizes, preflop ranges BU: 10%, UTG/BB: 30%, 182 iterations/nodes
We are supposed to bet a lot more than I thought (36.7% full pot, 7.9% half pot and only 55.3% check). BUT almost all AA are checked as expected. In fact the only AA combo without TT/44 or a K that is bet is AAQJ. But we bet 100% of AAK, AATT and AA44. Also virtually every hand that contains a K is a bet.
I had a strong feeling that would be the case. I mean we are certainly not happy when we see that board with our particular hand. What is perhaps surprising is how often the solver folds after c-betting for full pot. Hands that have great blockers but not so great equity when facing a shove such as KQQ9.
Feb. 14, 2019 | 9:58 a.m.
I am running a sim right now and I can already say the solver checks 100% of AAT5 combos, even the ones with two backdoor flushes. I'll post detailed results in the morning.
Feb. 14, 2019 | 12:29 a.m.
The solver c-bets this board around ~40%. But that is heads-up. 3-way this goes way down. And I'd be very surprised if our particular hand were anywhere near the betting range. Unpaired non-ace boards get c-bet very infrequently in position (in fact there is not a single board that reaches even a 50% c-betting frequency heads-up) and I'm almost certain that without significant backdoor equity that betting is a mistake here.
It is us who need to protect our equity. And we do that be checking as we can never call a raise. We do however want to see a turn as there are a number of cards we can continue on.
Feb. 13, 2019 | 11:45 p.m.
That is really spewy. Not all your wrap outs are to the nuts and you neither have a flush draw nor a flush draw blocker. Check-call and lead all turned straights.
Feb. 13, 2019 | 2:11 p.m.
Terrible hand. This is folded even on the button.
Feb. 13, 2019 | 2:07 p.m.
I don't understand the flop bet. Without a backdoor flushdraw and not blocking a K, Q or J this seems like an obvious check.
Feb. 13, 2019 | 2:05 p.m.
Solver agrees with me. You underestimate the effect rake has at lower stakes. You need a pretty good reason to cold-call as opposed to folding or 3-betting.
These are terrible multiway hands. It really isn't close. K-high and Q-high hands are particularly bad as they don't block aces and are easily dominated. You should pretty much fold all single-suited hands to a raise unless you're on the button.
The solver doesn't squeeze a single unpaired, single-suited hand fwiw.
Feb. 10, 2019 | 6:18 p.m.
I would squeeze the double-suited version. Single-suited this is trash. There is hardly any cold-calling in the CO at these stakes due to the high rake. It isn't very close either. Even KQJTss is a clear fold.
Feb. 10, 2019 | 2:58 p.m.
1 Never open for less than pot. Particularly at high-rake environments such as PLO5.
2 Never 4-bet this hand. It's a terrible hand even against a wide 3-betting range. In position there is no reason to inflate the pot further. Just call.
Feb. 10, 2019 | 12:38 p.m.
At PLO10 this is a clear fold pre.
Feb. 10, 2019 | 12:35 p.m.
Please add mouse hotkeys. Right now the hotkey feature is pretty useless (are there seriously people who use their keyboard for playing poker?) I'm not used to moving my mouse to click the bet button anymore which makes multi-tabling very difficult.
Other suggestions:
- The 4-colour deck needs improving. The diamond blue and the spade black look way too similar and are hard to tell apart.
- Make the poker table bigger in relation to the window. The avatars take up a lot of room and the board cards and bet amounts are too small.
- I've only been playing for half an hour so I'm still getting used to the client obviously but I think it could be a little easier to follow the action (who's still in the hand, what is my position etc.). Pokerstars' Hyper Simple and Mercury themes should be the benchmark
Feb. 9, 2019 | 10:42 p.m.
The built-in ranges only measure pure equity and disregard postflop playability. So a hand such as KK72r ranks quite highly even though it will be pretty tough to play postflop.
March 2, 2017 | 5:06 p.m.
I was on the fence regarding opening this hand UTG or not. Suprisingly though, it even makes the top 12% of PokerJuice's first in ranges which take playability into account.
March 2, 2017 | 1:49 p.m.
Perfect hand to call with preflop. Opening up your squeezing range against two loose players is fine but this isn't the hand to do it. Your hand really lacks high card value to be played this aggressively multiway out of position. Against their ranges (30%!AA and 50%!10%) you don't push any equity (35% - 35% - 30%).
On the flop I'd start with a check. It's not the greatest of boards for your range and it's awkward to get raised. FWIW as played I'd call it off as stack depth is quite shallow (although I think the stacking off range you assigned BTN might be slightly to loose). Checking has some significant advantages though. You get to see what they do and can get away from your hand if it goes raise/shove. If there's only one bet on the flop you call and have a ton of turn cards that will improve your hand (cards they won't neccessarily put you on giving preflop action). And if it checks through you get to see a free turn which is also a brilliant outcome. Betting yourself takes all of that away and you commit to a coinflip at best.
Feb. 27, 2017 | 1:07 p.m.
This is an absolute car crash of a hand. Don't put any money in the pot preflop, unless it's folded to you on the button. Even then I will sometimes fold it depending on the players in the blinds.
As played I don't understand the turn check. If you do that then surely with the intention to check raise to get maximum value from 9x.
Feb. 27, 2017 | 12:01 p.m.
If you bet you have to bet full pot. You don't have a bet/folding range in this spot.
Feb. 26, 2017 | 1:23 p.m.
Really, really dislike the 3bet. You're not pushing any equity advantage and playability isn't great. And on an A83 board where everyone is putting me on Ax+ yours is precisely not the hand I want to be holding.
Feb. 16, 2017 | 10:56 a.m.
Fold preflop. This hand barely makes the top 30% of opening hands. I would open it from the cutoff.
Jan. 26, 2017 | 7:49 a.m.
This is a terrible board for your 3-betting range so I would start with a check. It is not even a good board for your actual hand (what are you hoping for here?), so after checking I would actually fold.
Also I see no good reason to 3-bet this in the first place. These aren't terrible aces by any means (nut flush + wheel cards) but you are out of position against two players and most importantly 150bb deep with both of them. They will call you with a lot of playable hands in position whereas you will be confronted with severe playabilitity and visibility issues on later streets.
Nov. 29, 2016 | 5:21 p.m.
Mastering Pot Limit Omaha - The Modern Aggressive Approach blows any other book out of the water in my opinion. Requires some prior knowledge though and probably isn't suited to absolute beginners.
Oct. 23, 2016 | 4:01 p.m.
Terrible flop for you. Against any reasonable player I don't have a cbetting range here. As the others said: check/fold.
Aug. 25, 2016 | 3:41 p.m.
Don't see any great reason to 3bet this preflop.
Aug. 25, 2016 | 3:38 p.m.
Never ever check back the flop! You have to bet the top of your range. For balance reasons of course, but first and foremost for value.
July 20, 2016 | 12:25 p.m.
It's even a top 15% opening hand using Pokerjuice ranges (which are better because they take playability into account and not just raw equity). So even UTG this is fine to open.
In general playing a 3-bet or fold strategy from the SB in high-rake environments (read micro-stakes PLO) is best, even 3-way. This hand is strong enough to squeeze.
Postflop I agree with all your decisions.
Feb. 21, 2019 | 12:29 a.m.