GInTheorem
55 points
Looks fine, river obviously a mandatory bluff when you get there (though your range might want to go smaller), betting turn is an option but I think xb then bluff river is slightly better without a club.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:41 p.m.
This is completely fine, but against such a massive whale I'd 3bet for value pre.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:40 p.m.
Hand looks completely standard, no need to worry about it.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:39 p.m.
I don't dislike this, our range is incredibly strong and we have blockers to his calling range. This is also almost certainly pretty much the bottom of our range after ccing a CO vs UTG 3bet so the fact that we might have some SDV is irrelevant.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:38 p.m.
I just flat turn 3bet IP. We stack at least as wide a range and we have less risk of him sensibly folding KQ.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:37 p.m.
Don't squeeze pre, overplays our hand vs an UTG range and SB flatting range. As played we can stick in a river bet simply because we're just always winning and we can let him decide what he wants to call with (AT?).
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:36 p.m.
Bottom two isn't a particularly strong hand on this flop, certainly not strong enough to raise.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:34 p.m.
As blocker doesn't matter because he's not turning AsX into a bluff. If you just mean the A, then sure, but almost all our range will contain blockers like that.
OP, I think folding's fine, nobody bluffs this spot enough and he never vbets worse.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:31 p.m.
yeah standard, fine, you'll see 43o more than enough to balance out the AA/KK here.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:29 p.m.
Flat pre - no need to be bloating the pot with QQ at this stack depth (and you definitely shouldn't be 3betting depol at this stack depth either). As played, bet a little smaller on the flop. Call the flop raise, as played, x/f the turn because you've successfully isolated yourself against the very top of his range and this is a good card for that.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:29 p.m.
Sorry for late reply. The thing is, when we peel against a minraise we need to realise ~22% of the pot postflop for calling to be better than folding. Our equity with ATC vs villain's range is going to be significantly better than this, so the only hands we should fold are those with a terrible R.
Sept. 1, 2015 | 12:08 a.m.
Every hand has an EV, which can be reached from R*equity (R being realisable equity which is an estimate rather than anything else). We don't need a 'plan' for postflop, we just need to be remotely competent vs the player pool - 84s isn't particularly close.
Aug. 26, 2015 | 1:25 a.m.
Q2 is just so high in our range and he can bluff this turn super-wide. ofc it's still just a bluffcatcher but it's not a spot where we just want to fold all our bluffcatchers.
Bluff this combo OTR because I expect we can get away with bluffing everything.
Aug. 26, 2015 | 1:22 a.m.
Folding pre would be really bad.
Raising turn is really bad - I mean, we have about a billion better combos to bluff and this is easily strong enough to call.
As played, bluffing river seems to be the best option.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:56 p.m.
Definitely 3bet pre and especially against a minraise. Either call or raise is fine OTF, as played folding river is good, 5NL players have sizing tells left right and centre.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:53 p.m.
I don't squeeze this IP; from SB/BB I think it's better. Turn shows you need to plan your sizes a little better. As played I fold - I don't think anyone's bluffing this spot.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:39 p.m.
50% is substantially too tight. A good frequency to defend against a SB 3x is ~75%; against a minraise this should probably be 95-100%.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:37 p.m.
84s is a mandatory defend in the BB against a BTN minraise. Your sample is absurdly small. X/r this flop could be fine depending on how you construct your ranges.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:36 p.m.
You rep sets, thin vbets with overpairs and A5s. BB should, but won't defend K5/Q5/75s pre most likely.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:04 p.m.
I think the main thing is you can use a smaller flop sizing and a bigger turn sizing.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:03 p.m.
More so because we're using a depol strat rather than anything else. There aren't many spots in which GTO (read: solvers) will actually bet 100% but there are also a bunch of spots where practical opponents will misplay substantially when we do, most often by overfolding.
Aug. 25, 2015 | 3:01 p.m.
Don't 3b this pre unless you're playing a mixed strat - it's a +EV call. Flop is really close because our 'equity' is tenuous at best, as played turn is awful, because we have no equity when called and he has plenty of 5x/sets/2p at this stack depth. River is fine because EV(check) = 0 and we want some bluffs + this doesn't have bad blockers, but getting to the river like this is really really bad.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:55 p.m.
Pre is close unless he gets really sticky postflop because at this stack depth, 44 has significant RIO when it flops a set as well as IO, and it never wins when it doesn't flop a set unless missed AK is in a passive mood.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:52 p.m.
I check this flop with the Ac, especially at this stack depth where we struggle to profitably vbet three streets on most runouts. As played turn fold looks good; a lot of his potential bluffs just turned a pair (which they should, but won't continue bluffing with) and we block a lot of them with the Ac.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:50 p.m.
Looks std/fine. We'd have a tough spot against a smaller river bet.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:49 p.m.
Not folding turn, he can have a ton of FDs on this turn in particular which don't really want to call turn so decide to raise. He also might raise 44/33 on the flop sometimes, and doesn't necessarily always raise AJ/JJ on this turn. We can potentially also have a fun bluffjam on hearts, though that might be spewy at 10z.
River's tough; depends how often you think the player pool follows through with missed FDs. I'm inclined to say fold because people pussy out of big bluffs really often even when they're +++EV.
Also, stop just betting 2/3 pot and think more about your sizing.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:48 p.m.
His range pre is not TT+, AQ+; it's significantly more likely to be polar (in which calling pre is fine and you should definitely call flop since he has bluffs), or simply just QQ+ AK in which you should fold pre and then fold flop. Some polar ranges will contain KQ, which is a very strong argument for calling flop. Plan to xb most turns when checked to (which should be frequent - he can't really go for 3 with AA/KK on this board).
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:45 p.m.
Yeah just bet, but plan to triple if river blanks because people are going to peel KT waaaaaaay too often on this turn.
Aug. 24, 2015 | 3:42 p.m.
This seems to be a common theme in uNL hands - this another board on which we should have a super-high cb frequency against a BTN r/c range. As played bet the turn big. Given we have a flop checking range, presumably it contains some AA/AKdd which now want to bet big; and so do nearly all of our bluffs.
Standard. Don't worry if you lose these pots because b/c is +++EV.
Sept. 6, 2015 | 4:42 p.m.