From02Hero -

Interesting video Tyler, assuming we remove the all in sizing, what would you suggest as a bet sizing strategy choice for

a) 98% equity hand
b) 95% equity hand
c) 90% equity hand

Thanks for putting out such high quality content consistently for so many years.

Freenachos added you on dis

I think when you make a video like this, having more structure in your presentation might make sense.

For example presenting a conclusion at the end seems like a pre-requisite

Great vid, which RNG do you use please?

Thanks

Love the no hud!

hi mark , in the hand where you have aj 2mins in , what do you bluff river with?

At around 3min mark, SB v bb.. you said you would be bet calling hands as weak as j10o that’s only since you use smaller opening and flop sizings right? I’m wondering what hands I can bet call( I use raise or fold 3x strategy SB v Bb and almost always bet 22% or so! Ty in advance and great video!

That software, what program is that ? Or how do I utilize that in the bodog streets? And ty in advance ! Good video!

I was surprised at how high of frequency QT/KTs are folded preflop facing a 3b from mp.
Is this only to when UTG v MP 3b or does it happen MP v CO too?
Does being 200 BBs deep increase the fold frequency or decrease?
I know obviously you are just going on the fly and just estimating a range for villain but how would the above factors affect how you construct your range oop v a 3b?

Yo man, another great vid.

Can you break down how you achieve your volume for the month? Ie: number of sessions per day, session length, break time between them, regular schedule etc? Thanks

Hey man, what are your colour codes?

Saulo Ribeiro Thanks man. Fast becoming the best essential content for 6m NLHE on RIO imo.

Hi Saulo, great vid. Question regarding the concept of playing 100bb and re-starting tables. Any idea on the relative EV toss up of playing at your most comfortable stack size (imagine most of your work has gone into 100bb, like me) and maxing your edge vs regs and fish there, vs the EV of getting to play fish deep and maybe losing some of your edge (perhaps) vs regs when deep.

I go backwards and forwards about this idea, without being able to back up a hypothesis with data.

nice video, still appreciate the format a lot, thx!

great footage, thx!

hi nuno, thx for the nice work.
i´m not convinced overbetting turn with the TT topset @40:14 ist the best line since we obv. block a lot of villains continue range vs an overbet and kind make him fold instead of call oder maybe x/r many of his draw combinations. is the reason for your overbet here that u are playing this spot overbet turn oder xb only or are there other reasons i can´t see for the moment?
i even think overbetting even makes the opponent less like to x/r some of his 2pair combinations which might raise vs a modest best?
kind regards

why not just block the river with the A5cc?

very nice format, good job!
how about 2 RIO pro`s - maybe ben vs kevin playing this format + reviewing in a vid?
would be wonderful!

bet/calling dafuQ?
why would you bet and then call the shove?

1) we don`t beat any valuebets when villain overshoves so we only beat a bluff

2) the Ks blocks some combos but as bigfiszh said it`s rly not a ton, As would obv be much better

3) only reasonable hands villain could get to the river with and bluff are like 56 , compared to that villain shud have way more flushcombos in his range

4) villain is unknown, i wouldn`t expect an overbetbluffshove for more than 2x pot from unknowns on these stakes

5) -> fold :-)

peter and nick already brought up very good arguments for why u should def. call this runout otr once you call the turn. i also agree if we wanna fold AQ on the turn vs the x/r we have to fold many of our flushdraws, otherwise our range just get`s way to weak on most runouts.

chael, u wrote villain is an aggressive regular, u know him so i would assume u also have stats on him which tell u he has a high turn check/raise % right? if so, and u aren´t sure enough how to play against a turn x/r with that hand why not just checkback turn? sure u might loose some value from time to time but there are still not all that much runouts on which u get 3streets from worse + making a mistake for your whole stack is way worse than (maybe-if at all!) making the small mistake of loosing some value with your turnbet.

i think once you get to the river by taking the x/call x/call line your riverfold is fine for reasons u mentioned. definately agree with BigFiszh that you should also take this line with QQs,KK and AA and obv. call river with those to be fine.

what i`m not really sure about is if i wouldn`t rather want to bet/bet and then check/fold river cause i feel it would be easier to fold in this case since we clearly narrowed villains range down enough and got value from worse which shoud def. checkback river for sd value (like AJ,AQ etc.) advantage of this line is we should be getting those 2 streets of value from worse more easily before scarecards (spade) could roll off. another advantage would be folding him off his equity with some lower pairs with 1 spade by barreling which do have reasonable equity against our 2pair and might decide to checkback.

i think against ur specific villain with such a high f3bet (assuming he also has a 4b range in that spot) the riverfold shud be relativly clear no matther which line we took until the river.

interesting spot, especially cause of deepness. if villain wouldn´t play
such a high fold to 3bet and/or effective stacks would be 100bbs would you take the same line?

wow first time in my life im writing it but i seriously have to when getting a chance esp. in a sauce vid ....  *FIRST   :p

Alex i was just joking since i think it`s pretty funny go "like" a "+1" comment :D

but yes, hand is played fine

+1 for 1 like

hey Brian,

"For sure 15% is low for a VPIP% here for the button with 100BB stacks...
now obv the button will be 3betting a reasonable amount, so maybe 15%
is a reasonable call% if you subtract the times he 3bets, but even then
it feels low to me"

The 15% call open means only the hands he calls (3bet range excluded). 15% is not his VPIP in that spot since VPIP is composed of PFR%+Call open%. I would argue a standard % for a reg`s call open on the BTN is definately! < 15% , especially with 2 regs in the blind and 1 reg opening.

"And I also question whether or not the program has factored that in to
the range of hands you are giving the button for this hand (ie is it
taking out 3bet hands, and using the 15% of hands for a likely call
range?)

the range is put manually - 3bet range excluded

"The next question I have is... I feel that you will be called by a ten
on the river in this spot more than half the time, I estimate the call %
to probably be 2/3 or 3/4 of the time personally against an unknown in
this spot"

villain needs ~30% equity for calling the river to be break-even. Even against a range that is not valuebetting worse than Ax and bluffing ALL busted draws a hand like JT imo won`t have 30%:

Board: Ts5s6c4hAh  

Equity   Win   Tie

MP2   73.61%   73.61%   0.00%   { AA, TT, 66-44, ATs, A7s, 97s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, AsKs, AsQs, KsQs, AsJs, KsJs, QsJs, As9s, Ks9s, Qs9s, Js9s, Ts9s, As8s, 9s8s, As6s, 8s6s, As5s, As4s, 6s4s, As3s, As2s, ATo }

MP3   26.39%   26.39%   0.00%   { JTs, JTo }

-> that`s why i would not assume Tx is calling way more than 50% on the river.

"also by putting in the numbers based on my assertions in to your equity
calculator and figure out changed equities based on what I'm
postulating."

when we are calculating with a 20% Call open range on the BTN (3bet range excluded) and further a call river with Tx of 75%+ 3barreling will definately become - EV but i would argue that those parameters just aren`t realistic. As mentioned before the break even point for 3barreling against a 15% Call open Btn happens when villain is calling 60% of his Tx combos.

however we view things, in the end i think we can agree that it`s a very close spot and won`t change winrates dramatically ;-)

thx for the interesting discussion and all the best for your next HU sessions vs WCG!

20:41- 77 hand

Brian you`re saying you dislike the 3barrel and would prefer
to x/call river.

My first thought was x/c river will not be +EV since there
won`t be too many combos he can bluff with on the river but still there are
some he might fold when we 3barrel.

Therefore i made a CREV analysis:

Parameter: 

15% call open pre

call flop: 3rd pair+, fd, gs+, Ax +bdfd 

call turn: mp+, fd, oesd

call river: tp+, 50% Tx

bet river when checked to: tp+, ANY busted draw 

EV for bet river = + 2,59: 

EV for x/call river= - 3,87:

-> the BE point for the riverbet beeing + EV is him folding 60% of his Tx combos (including T9,JT)

-> the x/call river line will be - EV even when he`s not valuebetting lighter than Ax and bluffing ALL of his busted draws

starting off with the first hand : K8 hand riverspot @ 44:50

we`re taking our actual holding (K8) for the analysis,

-> no range vs range analysis

Preflop: Villain:

pre opening range 50%: 

(adding hands like Q8o to villains opening range doesn`t remarkably change the analysis)

Flop: villain`s flop betting range: any TPTK+, 3rd pair(5x), all OSD, overcard+GS

villain`s checking range = rest 

Turn: -> no bets on the flop

-> villain`s flop checkingrange = villain´s turn range 

villain`s turn betting range: 2pair+, OSD(without pair), FD(without pair), TP+GS

villain`s checking range = rest 

villain`s turn check/callingrange: 3rdpair+, overcards+SD

River:  villain`s rivercheckingrange = 100% 

villain`s rivercallingrange: middlepair+,3rd pair - T7+

-> this callingrange for villain makes up for  61,5% of villain`s river checking range 

villain hast to defend 61% against our 9BB into 14BB riverbet to be unexploitable 

Hero`s equity against that callingrange = 37%

for Hero check back river wins 1.5BB more than bet river

-> betting river will only have more EV if villain is calling too wide (9x etc.) 

That analysis shows even worse equity for betting river than i suspected myself.

Are there points you disagree with?

P.S made this analysis together with BigFiszh who first off thought it`s a clear valuebet

hey ben - thx for another good video!

1) K8 hand riverspot @ 44:50

i think it´s pretty expected positive attitude having a + EV valuebet on the river facing pure facts.

i think villain has to call lot`s of bluffcatchers to even reach the 50% mark:

Jh9s5cTcKd   Equity   Win   Tie

MP2   43.90%   43.90%   0.00%   { Kh8c }

MP3   56.10%   56.10%   0.00%   { ATs-A9s, K9s, Q9s, Q5s, J6s-J2s, K9o, Q9o }

rly not convinced villain is calling lots of weak 1pairs on the river but even if he does it`s still possible he`s taking this line with hands like AK,AQ or even sometimes QJ right? i mean sure we could see this vice-versa and expect him to sometimes show up with hands like AT/77 but i think getting + 50% vs a calling range is too optimstic.

Do you think even if say we know we have ~ 45% against a callingrange it`s worth it since we can add more bluffs and are maybe "tougher to play against" ?

2) 89 hh @ 11:20

if villain shoves we would need roughly 35% for the call. now it`s pretty hard to establish his shoving range, but i`d think it would look like

JdTh6c   Equity   Win   Tie
MP2   35.13%   29.38%   5.75%   { 9d8h }
MP3   64.87%   59.12%   5.75%   { AdAh, KdKh, QdQh, AQs+, KQs, 98s }

actually pretting interesting we got the same 35% equity no matther if he shoves AK or AA.
vs AQ our equity is even as high as 44% but if he shoves QQ (less likely imo) we drop to 27%.

would u see this different?

Don`t wanna be nitpicky just wanted to find out if it`s really an easy fold when getting shoved on.