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This is just the strategy Pio uses turn, the number you see is simply the frequencies with which Pio Raises turn with this specific combo(99.8%) so lets say 100%

It clearly shows that EV of c/r turn is >>>> than calling or folding (which you can check in strategy EV)

I guess he is mixing with other suit from KQ combo (more calling other specific KQ combo rather than raising) but still overall c/r >> call it seems

Ok Thanks for reply Ben,

Last question : If you wish to have these mixed strategies, than i guess having a tool to randomize is mandatory, i found a website online, and an app on my phone, but it's not really practicall, i would like to have an app on computer i can put in corner of screen that i click on to get a random number between 0 and 100. Do you guys do it like this ? or do you have any other tools/ways to randomize ?

Have good day

Hi,

Very interesting vid

I am watching Pokerdetox from Nick Howard and he explains a lot about Pio simplifications.
Indeed Pio mixed strategy seems impossible to correctly adopt as a human being and simplyfying to a 100% (more or less) CB flop or 100% ch is loosing most of the time 3% max from the pot on flop (considering opponent adapts correctly by c/raising 15-35% to our mass CB stratgy which is almost never the case (therefore not loosing too much EV)

Anyway, it seems very reasonable and i wonder how you guys feel about those simplifications (which seems very relevant)

Is there any highstakes player adopting them (sh or hu?) or are you really trying those crazy mixed strategies ?

Cheers

Hey, nice vid, good content,

i agree w shoving 74 instead of sizing or at least way bigger,

i think its easier to follow if 4 tables max, more fun to watch

Hey, thanks for vid,

I always here that its bad combos bluffs when you have a miss fd (i make some shortcut but i dont want to spend too much time on it)

You Say as well that it's a bad combo of bluff catch if you have miss fd ...

Isn't there here something not logical ?
If the guy is bluffing w non miss fd, than you should be happy calling w 2 pairs + miss fd right ?

Hey dude, i love your videos format (small clips, nice music at the end and stuff), it makes it very enjoyable to watch as teunuss mentioned

few questions : as Pio prefer your 58% bet vs smaller ones flop w KJs (sb 3b v BT) i think you should have tried even stronger bet like pot size or slight overbet (spr was4 i think) , i'm pretty sure he might like it with specific combos (maybe JJ ? or JT ?) your are oop on a very wet board and it wouldnt shock me that he wants a 2 streets games w thoses hands and few bluffs as well (and other as mix strat obv)

I think you have set too many bet sizes for cbs, c/r, donkbets etc, you already know the board, and i dont think that ingame you use so many sizes and so many line in this specific board, so putting all those sizes will modify how Pio works the river, putting less but more accurate hypothesis will give you better idea of how Pio works the river (it might change drastically some decisions for specific combos) it's just my opinion ;)

good work !

Cheers

Hello,

When counting the combos of value and bluffs on the T8 v 98, your assumptions is that you ch flop vs miss cb 100% on AQxcc but having some AQ in your range + the fact he misses cb, i think you should (or Must?) have a prob range flop, what do you think ?

Therefore i would exclude AQ and 66 from your range and maybe as a bluff 87dd or 98dd or JTs ?

obv his call seems disgusting

3b less than 3x 77 sb v BT ?

than you seems pissed of when you way you're not betting Ah on the turn (J7 overbet river hand) but than it becomes a good bluff catch for him because it leaves you with more bluffs ? like Kh, Qh, Jh, str8 blockers etc ? I didn't see the whole hand BvB, maybe he is capped but it's tempting as well to turn Ah6x into a bluff (blocks full and nut flushes) i wonder wich are the best candidates for those crazy bluff ? (i know we need to have very very few combos) maybe 3 pairs without hearts ?

I wonder what Pio Preflop suggest for your AQ hand, (it seems to me it's more like a fold than a defense against someone who has a "normal" 4betting range co v BT and against this sizing) maybe call against people who tend to 4b too much but than maybe flat preflop ?

neene i play hu up to 25/50 hu short track and 10/20deep NL you are the regfish posting this with such arrogance, you must be frustrated
i beat snowie for sure over 100k hands, (100k as you suggest is way too long, i have a life), i'm confident having 20bb/100 evadjust at the very least, it's not a brag, any high stakes player would realize what i'm pointing out, just try to play him, try to 3b 100% as well for fun, you'll see he overfolds preflop and even postflop putting you on a range ov 15ish% and not realizing you have some 72o etc
snowie is just not adapting, has big sizing tells, (even if balanced somehow) overall sizing tells, very predictable w similar lines, overfolds in many many spots and underbluffs, not punishing you, you can pretty much call any CB and see how he reacts on turns and adapt from there, and you can 3b 100% profitably as well

edit : nenee i looked your history comments, and you post some NL50 hands AND you are arrogant w pretty much everybody you talk too so yeah my guess was right, you are the Frustrated loosing player bashing everywhere, grow up kid

Hey,

I just bought Pokersnowie, very disappointed, thats why i end up here (googling what people think about it)

I tried straight the hu version (expecting some tough competition), i was impressed at the beginning w unconventional mooves, but very quickly i realized it was
1) never adapting (folding A HUGE amont to 3b)
2) 3betting way to small
3) huge sizing tell
4) ALWAYS same paterns postflop (not big arsenal at all and VERY VERY predictable
5) doesn't split ranges correctly at all (too much linear)

I don't want to show off or whatever, but it's so predictable/weak i can safely bet i have 30bb/100 against him without any problem.
I am even ev+ 3betting 100% as he is not adapting

Concerning the 6max i don't know but i expect the software to be very very very weak, and that in few months/year something like PIO for 6max w put pokersnowie away from discussion because of how weak it is

Even if Pio doesn't solve 6max, it is WAYYYYY more powerful tool to learn and understand the game it's not close, it's not a debate

Cheers

Hey Kevin,

When analysing Pio, i would like to know how far best poker players go into splitting ranges ?

I mean as a human (and especially when playing many tables) it seems tough to be randomizing correctly some decisions w specific combos (% of 3b Q5s, x% of ch back flop w this or that combo) etc etc,

I wonder if best try to follow as much as possible the frequencies Pio suggest (taking into consideration different other factors obv) or if they try to simplify it to something more easy (one combo = 1 decision)

Cheers,

Hey Ben,

When analysing Pio, i would like to know how far best poker players go into splitting ranges ?

I mean as a human (and especially when playing many tables) it seems tough to be randomizing correctly some decisions w specific combos (% of 3b Q5s, x% of ch back flop w this or that combo) etc etc,

I wonder if best try to follow as much as possible the frequencies Pio suggest (taking into consideration different other factors obv) or if they try to simplify it to something more easy (one combo = 1 decision)

Cheers,

Hey, just for your information you say (and its honorable) not sharing because pay product

But if you look carefully at 31min21, we have all the 3betting range (preflop) from OOP with the frequencies ... ;)

agreed, (la watch (v))

kid

hi kevin, i tottaly aggreed with almost all your decisions preflop, flop and turn, but against that kind of opponent, i felt like you were calling a bit too light rivers, he seems a bit weak and seems not bluffing enough rivers, though i would have called the AK on his weird c/r

i really like your explanations for combination choice for continuing in hands, its very logical and correct, you are nuts,

continue good work

hey phil, i love your vid, watch you since bluefire, but sometimes you really talk too much, its very interesting for the most part and i DO like deep analysis,

but when you begin loosing yourself or repeating same things, i get to 1.25x or 1.5x or even skip in to see the rest of the hand, and the vid gets less enjoyable,

obiously im not complaining, like to see your footage as always, thanks a lot

i really loved your approach of the game (gtowise)

but i think against such a weak opponent you should think about making more exploitative plays (maybe im wrong) : fold KToffsuit vs 3b preflop (close against him and i wouldnt want high variance spots when i see how much he drops in SRP) and on flop it feels a very easy fold, he has been so weak..

another exploitative hand is your K6o on KTJ x 6 something like that, on river your are on top of your range, but your opponent doesnt value thin overall (and my guess is he doesnt value worse than K6) and under bluff so much river, there again, an exploitative fold is possible as weird as it seems,
the only thing which would still lead me to call river is that we still have little bit of EV (im sure at this moment of the match its -EV call) but if i fold here i over fold way too much, and at some point, the opponent might see what happens and starts adjusting towards more aggressive game which i wouldnt like)

anyway, i really like how you construct your ranges, i feel playing same style but worse, so i have a lot to learn from you,
feels bad that you run super hot, because i would have liked some of your decisions on other turns or rivers to see how you would play;

thanks again ++

i totally aggree w jasonuts, i would have ch/called there as well, it seems the right play,

why not calling jacks vs 3b preflop but as played, raise flop seems better plan : you dont rep much at all (dont have any 2pairs combo, you shouldnt raise set either in his eyes, and by raising you can induce stupid bluff (right opponent for that) or induce him to stack Tx -, or value his floating (overcards maybe) and protect your hand as well, lots of benefits, and it adds aggression to your overall game which is always good to get paid off in future,

i totally aggree w jasonuts, i would have ch/called there as well, it seems the right play,

why not calling jacks vs 3b preflop but as played, raise flop seems better plan : you dont rep much at all (dont have any 2pairs combo, you shouldnt raise set either in his eyes, and by raising you can induce stupid bluff (right opponent for that) or induce him to stack Tx -, or value his floating (overcards maybe) and protect your hand as well, lots of benefits, and it adds aggression to your overall game which is always good to get paid off in future,

hi nice vid,

if you played that guy lets say 50k hands, dont you think its mandatory to combat more his aggression, i mean here its the beggining so its ok to catch him being passive, but going into the match, he had the lead way more often then you did, and i guess it could go into his advantage, and it will be easier for him to manipulate you than the contrary.