ELOH3ll
4 points
Is there any merit do you think to clicking it back?
June 22, 2014 | 2:59 a.m.
BB: Hero: $128.59
SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $3.50
June 21, 2014 | 12:21 p.m.
Actually thanks for pointing that out, the only combos that he would bet turn with as semi bluffs is probably only like QJcc, KJcc, QJdd, KJdd. 78 gets there on turn plus all the combos of tp and sets. Thanks for making me do that haha i can see folding turn is better play! :)
April 4, 2014 | 3:42 p.m.
Thats true that he can check back so knowing how often he bets turn would be very useful. Actually the more i think about it bet folding might be good, but your bet sizing would have to be smallish i think. Do you think this player is only shoving flushes here? if he is so passive that he never semi bluffs then that is good line to take then i guess.
Given that a 4th diamond doesnt come up we are doing pretty good against his range. So if the turn is check back you can bet for value on a lot of river cards (if he doesnt stab much) and get called by Kx, or maybe stubborn pp. Since he is passive he will only bet his flushes, where he is likely to call a greater amount of range. I think his calling range on the river we beat more than 50% which should show +ev
April 4, 2014 | 3:41 a.m.
Would CRAI be bad on the turn? I know that you dont get called a lot by hands you are beating but you would fold out a lot of hands that have equity against you? Given all the draws he could have would risking 165 to win 113 work often enough?
I realise this is turning our hand into a bluff, is this too agro?
April 4, 2014 | 1:31 a.m.
In my opinion you want to be c betting this flop when you've been the aggressor pre. There are a few reasons for this. a) If villain has two hearts, say KQ, AK, AQ etc he is most likely going to check behind to get a free card, so betting is good to charge draws. Especially even if he has like 99s or 88s. Also if he decides to raise flop you can even fold depending if you think he is ever raising fd, though you probably gii. b) if you think villain has JJ-KK in his range bet flop for value which would leave an all in bet for the turn if it blanks. There's no point in playing your hand deceptively when there is so much value in the pot as it is. Even if your bet on the flop takes it down you shouldn't be extremely upset. c) This flop, for me at least, would be a flop id cbet with AK and AQ a lot of the time as well (which is a decent part of out range). So by checking our value hands on the flop and cbetting others its unbalancing our range. I think this would be a flop to c bet like 100% of our range here, even all sets.
The river decision is probably check fold, our range ott looks pretty confusing actually so it wouldnt make sense to bet on the river for him without a hand. Quite often he can turn up with something like J10 maybe or flushes, though definitely 98 is right at the bottom of his range which is unlucky for you.
Hope this helped :)
March 6, 2014 | 11:54 p.m.
I think from a gto perspective if you decide to 'always' bet your overpairs on that flop then you should also be betting worse. With your hand you have a lot of back door outs yoy can double barrel so I think cbetting isn't going to be terrible. Without balancing your floop betting range it means villains can fold all their range that isnt beating yours and call when it is since you sorta flipping your cards over.
Im no expert in balanced ranged but I think its wrong to say you ALWAYS bet when you have it and check whenyou don't
Jan. 3, 2014 | 3:18 a.m.
Since villain is over calling he should never really have a 10 or even a single 8. Even j9 I think is a fold/raise multi way. He could even have 10 8 which leaves you dead.
Since your hokding a jh Ithkink checking back with some showdown value is better. If you had say two black jacks maybe a small bet fold wont be terrible to protect against some 10s
Jan. 2, 2014 | 4:08 a.m.
Which converter do you use? If always come out with gibberish for me :(
Jan. 2, 2014 | 3:55 a.m.
I think you need to base the hands you 3 bet as value on his 3bet calling range. Vpip is irrelevant in deciding to 3 bet for value. For example someone who calls 100% of 3bets who plays 25/10 is better to 3 bet than someone who calls only 10% of the time with a vpip of 40/20. The first example will show up with a weaker range on average than the following. These are obviously exxagerated but I hope you see the point
Jan. 1, 2014 | 7:57 a.m.
With your preflop 3 bet you give villain better than 2 to 1 to peel. So as you said I recon the sizing should be upwards of 9 since your oop.
On the turn you could check jam and rep some over pairs and if he checks back you get a free river.
As per the 3 barrel you can jam the river depending on villains tendancy to let go of top pair. I think he can show up a lot with qj kj aj j10 and mayne some stubborn 10s or something similar. He'd probably raise turn with sets since the board texture changes so jamming river in my opinion wont be terrible.
Hope this helped :) hny
Jan. 1, 2014 | 7:23 a.m.
Full Tilt Poker Game #33585770194: Table Langtry (6 max, shallow) - NL Hold'em - $0.10/$0.25 - 04:25:59 ET - 2013/12/03
Seat 1: kadafi84 ($10.21)
Seat 2: ELOH3ll ($31.95)
Seat 3: CookieG3 ($9.57)
Seat 4: donk_angel ($5.25)
Seat 6: 3absii ($5.87)
kadafi84 posts the small blind of $0.10
ELOH3ll posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ELOH3ll [As Qs]
CookieG3 folds
donk_angel folds
3absii folds
kadafi84 raises to $0.75
ELOH3ll calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ah 2s] (Total Pot: $1.50, 2 Players)
kadafi84 checks
ELOH3ll checks
*** TURN *** [Qh Ah 2s] [Ks] (Total Pot: $1.50, 2 Players)
kadafi84 bets $1.50
ELOH3ll calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [Qh Ah 2s Ks] [4d] (Total Pot: $4.50, 2 Players)
kadafi84 bets $4.50
3absii: what a terrible river
ELOH3ll calls $4.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
When he checks flop i think he never has a fd as he will always cbet that. The bet on the turn sorta indicates that that maybe he has something like KQ? However J10 also got there which might be in his flop check range. Would it have been better to just bet the flop and charge gutters?
When he bets river that back im thinking that 22 is also a possibility. Is a flat here fine?
Dec. 3, 2013 | 9:40 a.m.
Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
CO: $13.31 (133.1 bb)
BTN: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
SB: $12.53 (125.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $13.59 (135.9 bb)
UTG: $25.47 (254.7 bb)
MP: $10.88 (108.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Qc Kc
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.85) 3c 2c 9d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65
Turn: ($2.15) Kd (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.65, Hero calls $1.65
River: ($5.45) Ah (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.59,
Uknown villain
Is a c/r on the turn going to be very profitable or is a c/c better to get more value. River card is horrible since i think may be barreling A highs hoping im floating on low board. Or is the river still a call?
Dec. 3, 2013 | 7:07 a.m.
10NL Rush poker
Hero is ELOH3ll, villain has 5.5 AF on flop, playing
22/19/7.1 (487)
As per the raise preflop, i raise most buttons simply
because of high steal percentage with just a min raise
Preflop: Hero is BTN with
Kd7c
3 folds, ELOH3ll raises to $0.20, lastusermw calls $0.15, 1
fold
Flop: ($0.50)
Kd4c8d (2 players) lastusermw
checks, ELOH3ll bets $0.33, lastusermw raises to $1.00, ELOH3ll calls $0.67
Turn: ($2.50)
7s (2 players) lastusermw bets
$1.70, ELOH3ll calls $1.70
River: ($5.90)
6d (2 players) lastusermw bets
$10.24
lastusermw returned $1.46
For the river decision.... since he is cring a lot of flops
and draws, im putting him on a diamond draw. However his overbet on the river
inbalances my read a little bit.
I think i should have raised the turn definately though.
What are opinions regarding river decision?
ps: as a side note how do people convert hand histories from
Holdem Manager to have the pictures? Mine wont copy paste.
Cheers
Dec. 3, 2013 | 7:04 a.m.
Preflop: Hero is UTG with KdKc
ELOH3ll raises to $0.30, 1 fold, PlexoChi raises to $1.00, SlicknSick calls $1.00, 2 folds, ELOH3ll calls $0.70
Flop: ($3.15) 10d 8s Qc (3 players) ELOH3ll checks, PlexoChi checks, SlicknSick checks
Turn: ($3.15) 6s (3 players) ELOH3ll checks, PlexoChi bets $2.00, SlicknSick calls $2.00, ELOH3ll raises to $9.08
ELOH3ll returned $7.08
2 folds
Hero was UTG with
Final board:
ELOH3ll wins $8.70
Once the board was checked through on the flop, i decided to let the aggressor pre to make a delayed c bet and or let the button bet, on that board i would also expect sets to bet flop as well. I would assume that AKs is likely to bet if thats what he has with a fd and sd, however i give credit to checking it bet. Is this play to risky as for getting checked through and letting an ace hit even? I would expect something like AQ to bet turn as well.
As per the flat pre, i think too many people fold to 4 bets, so more value to be gotten by just flatting and see how the flop is.
Nov. 23, 2013 | 4:17 p.m.
Full Tilt Poker Game #33536729826: Table Lightning (6 max) - NL Hold'em - $0.05/$0.10 - 23:28:42 ET - 2013/11/20
Seats: 6
Seat 1: mozz7771 ($8.51)
Seat 2: dm1tr1y ($2.79)
Seat 3: yzt777yzt ($10.28)
Seat 4: PhoenixIkki ($15.10)
Seat 5: Maazitung ($11.12)
Seat 6: ELOH3ll ($10.05)
mozz7771 posts the small blind of $0.05
dm1tr1y posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ELOH3ll [Js Ts]
yzt777yzt folds
PhoenixIkki folds
Maazitung raises to $0.35
ELOH3ll raises to $1
mozz7771 folds
dm1tr1y folds
Maazitung calls $0.65
*** FLOP *** [3s 6d 9h] (Total Pot: $2.15, 2 Players)
Maazitung checks
ELOH3ll bets $1.20
Maazitung calls $1.20
*** TURN *** [3s 6d 9h] [Td] (Total Pot: $4.55, 2 Players)
Maazitung checks
ELOH3ll checks
*** RIVER *** [3s 6d 9h Td] [4d] (Total Pot: $4.55, 2 Players)
Maazitung bets $3
ELOH3ll has 15 seconds left to act
ELOH3ll folds
Uncalled bet of $3 returned to Maazitung
Maazitung mucks
Maazitung wins the pot ($4.33)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.55 | Rake $0.22
Board: [3s 6d 9h Td 4d]
Seat 1: mozz7771 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: dm1tr1y (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: yzt777yzt didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: PhoenixIkki didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Maazitung collected ($4.33), mucked
Seat 6: ELOH3ll (button) folded on the River
Is he probaly slow playing some thing like 99+. Or should i be betting the turn to get AK to fold so he doesnt bluff on river?
Nov. 21, 2013 | 6:52 a.m.
However i agree that it should have been shove or fold on the flop. And given my read i think it would have been better just to fold and find a better spot in the tourny. Especially considering there were a lot of fish left and wasnt to hard to get it in pre flop good.
Cheers
Aug. 21, 2013 | 11:58 p.m.
I think that is a good analysis of the math. However is't he more likely to slow play a nut flush draw with something like Ad5d? Therefore in point two in his calling range there should be some nuts hands as well that he would want to extract more value from rather than scare away more bets.
I agree with your reasoning though on the call and reassess with the turn, in hindsight i should have gone with the hand or folded and found a better spot.
Also what is your opinion on check/calling the flop?
Cheers
Aug. 20, 2013 | 12:38 a.m.
I was big blind so i wasnt check raised he just raised. thats why i was finding it such a tough spot. i probably should have considered that him being in position he was rarely going to check the turn and since i wasnt really planning on calling that maybe i could have found the fold button. The type of player he was had influenced my decision alot here, against anyone else at the table i probably would have folded. I think if he check raised the flop i would have most likely got it in. I think its good advice relative to the stack size though, because it was such an awkward spot to be in considering that i would have to commit so much of my stack.
Aug. 17, 2013 | 9:18 a.m.
Hi all, I have been in this situation a few times but encountered it in a live tournament the other day and wasn't quite sure of my play. Any thoughts?
UTG+1 is loose agressive, limping into a ton of pots and stealing lots of blinds. As there were alot of short stacks on the table he was playing almost every un-opened pot
UTG+1:80k
SB:40k
BB(Hero):40k
Blinds 1k/2k 0Ante
Hero is dealt Q5s, UTG limps and SB limps, Hero checks.
Flop: Qd5d10d (6k)
SB checks, Hero bets 5k, UTG+1 raises to 16k, SB folds, Hero calls.
At this point im thinking he has a lot of Adx hands as well as possibly flopping some small flushes with hands like 98d. My reasoning for the call was that i've seen him to be raising light in quite a few occasions and that given how agressive he is he could have a lot of semi bluffs. Additionally i felt i was able to read him pretty well, making some good folds in previous hands, so that if another diamond peeled of on the turn and i felt he was weak i may be able to rep a big hand and ship. Also i had 4 more outs to making a boat and take the lead in the hand even if i was behind.
Turn: 3s (38k) UTG+1: (62k) Hero: (22k)
Hero checks and UTG+1 bets 17k into the pot. After a while of thinking Hero folds thinking that he has a small flush most of the time that hes trying to protect from a redraw. My read was that he seemed a lot more comfortable about his hand on the turn.
After i folded UTG+1 showed Jd6d. Do you think that I played the hand correctly? I know at the time it was a good fold but was it otherwise an OK play? My flop play is what i feel is the most controversial as in if i should have led out or not, or was check calling perhaps a better play as it saves me from most raises. Some help, particularly on the flop play would be great, Thanks
Thanks haha!
If i had something like 98 would re raising be more viable then?
June 22, 2014 | 5:05 a.m.