DrCooper
21 points
Hi. I haven't looked at the the other comments. I often play a 3blind structure when i play live so this is an interesting hand to think about. I personally would fold this pre (maybe an exception if both SB and BB were v weak/passive players and are all 3k deep). In general I find that overcalling with an extra player in the blinds is problematic since it significantly increases the frequency of squeezes. Also this is 3.5x raise.
On the river I don't mind folding. Obviously against such a strong player we should try and play a balanced strategy. This is pretty much the worst hand in our value range and I wouldn't say our range is capped (we could check Ts9s or QsTs on the flop with some frequency). So I think its okay to call all flushes and fold anything else (with this bet sizing on the river we should have almost no bluffs - maybe 76xx?)
Dec. 26, 2017 | 8:33 p.m.
I can't tell if this is meant to be a troll or not?
Aug. 2, 2017 | 7:16 p.m.
My worry with 3betting flop is that even fun players know that its hardly ever a bluff when we bet/3bet flop and that they should fold a hand like 88. Also with the Ad blocker it makes it more likely that villain has a hand like 88-JJ.
On the turn x/shove would be called by very few worse hands - maybe JJd? And we don't really need to deny equity.
July 11, 2017 | 11:15 a.m.
If I was villain I would consider vbetting A9s but I often value bet too thin!
July 8, 2017 | 3:09 p.m.
SB: $101.69 (Hero)
BB: $26.28
UTG: $98.68
MP: $39.00
CO: $92.95
July 6, 2017 | 8:05 p.m.
I called and he had KK. Strange he didn't 4bet. At the time I was a bit unsure if this play is okay vs unknown but I think x/c turn and x/c river is the best play.
July 6, 2017 | 11:55 a.m.
I think i prefer c/r without a J - e.g. AA.
July 6, 2017 | 11:54 a.m.
What forum was this on? Why would someone be incentivised to tell everyone (including opposition) the truth?
July 5, 2017 | 9:30 p.m.
SB: $100.00 (Hero)
BB: $104.30
UTG: $149.37
MP: $100.50
CO: $200.37
July 5, 2017 | 9:28 p.m.
My thinking was call with TT without club and fold with a club?
Also I 3bet with small frequency here vs reg. I definitely prefer c/c on flop vs c/r.
July 5, 2017 | 8:41 p.m.
SB: $190.13
BB: $100.00 (Hero)
UTG: $113.29
MP: $130.36
CO: $145.75
July 5, 2017 | 5:03 p.m.
Hi Justin. You are obviously much better at poker than me! I ran another sim giving OOP bet sizes of 75% and 150%. It wants to bet 150 with 7s7h and some Ah7h - so you were right.
My worry is that this assumes that the villain (almost) always bets 98s on the flop. In reality I think some villains might check back in which case I'm not sure overbetting would be best.
June 23, 2017 | 6:58 a.m.
So PIO says:
c/r 77 without a diamond and just bet 77 with a diamond - this makes sense
other hands to c/r are slow played TT (I would never do this), A7dd, and some T9 as a bluff
June 21, 2017 | 4:30 p.m.
Thanks. I just ran a sim. Its pretty easy to put both of us on ranges based on preflop play and then simulate from there.
- On the turn it seems to suggest both check/raise and betting
- On river betting seems to be a big mistake! (oops). It suggests bet-call with this combo vs any river bet.
June 21, 2017 | 2:47 p.m.
SB: $141.16
BB: $133.73
UTG: $304.33 (Hero)
MP: $200.97
CO: $213.24
June 21, 2017 | 1:59 p.m.
Bigger pre - you are deep. Smaller on flop. As played I think turn and river are close. C/c and c/f seem okay.
June 19, 2017 | 9:55 p.m.
The problem with this is that the villain should hardly ever bluff in equilibrium since he has very few value combos. Obv in reality people don't balance properly so you may have a point.
June 18, 2017 | 11:37 a.m.
Bigger c/r on flop so you don't need to size so big on later streets to get stacks in.
As played river shove seems fine.
June 17, 2017 | 9 p.m.
SB: $100.00 (Hero)
BB: $337.38
UTG: $121.10
MP: $175.68
CO: $294.67
June 17, 2017 | 1:57 p.m.
I should add that the reason I suggest bigger bets is to exploit the villain that limped and then cold called a 3bet. He is probably way too call happy - I've spent a lot of time with this type of player in live games!
June 17, 2017 | 1:53 p.m.
I doubt pio is going to help much here. As played it's gross and I would fold. Perhaps bet bigger on flop? A lot of pair + gutter that call a 2/3 pot bet.
June 16, 2017 | 7:02 p.m.
'If he cbets here he should bluff his QQ and KK and valuebet his AQ+.'
What is the point of 'bluffing' with KK? You will never get better hands to fold. Protection is not useful here either.
'His cold 4bet range should be something like QQ+, AQ+. If he's wider well then I'm lost.'
Also doubt he 4bets AQ pre all the time if at all since he will have to fold to a jam.
June 15, 2017 | 4:49 p.m.
Do you guys think villain always calls jam with AK? My thinking (which I don't think is necessarily good) was that it would get him off a chop of AK. I discounted KK slightly since I don't think he always cbets flop with this. Also note that there are 6 combos of AK and only 3 of KK possible.
June 15, 2017 | 3:43 p.m.
SB: $185.28
BB: $121.49
UTG: $124.33
MP: $102.00
CO: $148.90 (Hero)
Rake is $2.50
June 14, 2017 | 7:55 p.m.
@ fefe.p I ran a sim on pio solver. On the turn I gave myself 3 bet sizes: 35%, 60%, all in. A summary:
- Check call includes some very strong hands such as TT and small frequency of AA. Also some Ax that are weak and any Tx we have (including obviously the combo in the hand)
- Check fold is 99 and J9
- Bet 35% includes 0 equity such as J9s and some pairs such as KK-QQ etc
- Bet 60% includes a lot of nut hands as well as broadway draws KQs etc
- It never advocates all in
June 12, 2017 | 12:22 p.m.
I just cbet 1/3 pot in all 3bet pots when OOP. I think if I did c/c this would be a good candidate.
June 12, 2017 | 12:18 p.m.
@fefe.p. I think this is an interesting turn spot - exactly why I posted it!! Some comments below...
I don't think I ever 3bet 66-88 here.
If I have a checking strategy: check folds need to be hands with v low equity - 99, J9s, etc. To protect this I need to check call some v strong hands - AA, AK seems like suitable candidates.
Betting my entire range might not be a bad suggestions - I should run some sims to find out! I suspect it will be quite sensitive to the assumptions about the IP range preflop and calling the flop.
June 11, 2017 | 6:46 p.m.
I don't think many people bluff raise here. They are more likely to bluff if checked to which is why I think check raise is better
June 10, 2017 | 9:26 p.m.
I think you guys are right about check raise on river
Enjoyed the video.
Very minor comment. I noticed you don't defend the BB v wide. For example, at around 4.00 you fold K6o in BB vs BTN open to 2.25BB by a reg. Later you fold A6o BB vs BTN to a 2.8BB open. Are these standard?
March 8, 2019 | 5:39 p.m.