BrokeInGozo

First hand is played very poorly from the turn on. Betting small just doesn't exist on this turn and if you chose to do so, betting 3/4 pot doesn't exist on this river.

Just subscribed to RIO elite yesterday after a 2 years break and sad to say the 5 videos of NLHE live play or hand reviews i've been watching so far are pretty bad and full of GTO mistakes. If it's totally acceptable to not play a hand perfectly, I'd expect from an elite coach to be good enough to at least recognize that there is another interesting line that could have been used. Sorry to be harsh but i'm not paying $100 a month to watch somebody making mistakes and not even seeing them at possible mistakes.

Hey Tyler,
From when are those hands ? The betsizings seem quite outdated, which could be fine if you talked about why they might not be optimal, but you don't. Focusing on why you should cbet and barrel a board doesn't make sense to me if you don't explain your sizings and which parts of villain's range they aim to fold.

I might be retarded there but I read the thread 5 times and still don't get what you mean by " zero betting "
" . The idea is pretty simple. When you are IP with a range advantage OTF, OTT or OTR you have an option between betting and checking with that part of your range usually. Now instead of just having a strategy where you bet or check, you would use a strategy where you bet or "zero-bet" your whole range. If you choose to "zero-bet" it is now the opponents turn to choose if he wants to call or raise this bet. "

zero bet means to check behind ?

37:40 KT hand
I feel like you have way more straights than villain on this turn as he would be betting a very few combos on Tx on the flop whereas you would c/c a bunch of those. In his shoes vs a competent opponent I think I would c back my whole range on the turn. So I disagree when you say that there's no point of leading as I'm pretty sure I'm not the only reg who would play this turn this way.

I'm glad you are joining the team Tommy and am looking for forward for your video serie(s).
The eightpath fold to poker enlightment back on deuces cracked is probably the best thing I've ever watched as it really helped the 20 yo newly profesionnal poker player I was to become a man, improving my approch of poker and more importantly of life in in general.
Welcome to RIO !

Ben next time could you please spend more time on explaining the bet sizings you use ?
Most of the time you're like " and i'm gonna bet this amount " with no further explaination and the whole hand doesn't make sense to me anymore as I have no idea what is your range for betting a street 30% pot. What are you trying to do to vilain's range and have you other sizings on this street ?

For some preflop theory now, if limping ep is quite obvious how to decide where we actually start to raise ? Instinct would tell me high jack and later but against a tough line up it would probably be interesting to have some strong hands in our limping range later than that. Also I saw you raising 2 buttons I think with weak Axs. Against good opponents it feels like the button is actually kind of MPish equivalent with all those EP limpers who can potentially 3bet you. Limping those hands that stack weaker flushes might be an option then ? The benefits of having an opportunity of stealing the pot now are quite huge so I'm not sure. Maybe limping those makes much sense when you have a short stack and go for more aggro lines when you have a deepstack is the way to go.

K8s hand I tend to totally disagree with the way you played it postflop. I would agree that this type of hand could be part of your cbetting range vs good aggro opponents on a different board just for the sake that it can take more heat ; but as you say you're very unlikely gonna get raised on that AKx board. Now as played I would definitely carry on on turn representing a very strong range and give a hard time to weak Ax. I cringed, pressed pause and am writing this comment now after you said turn " we have the best hand some % of the time ". I mean you are never good at showdown if don't improve at this point so I'd rather keep putting pressure with a hand that has a lot of equity. My 2 cents.

Otherwise glad to watch a video on ante up which has always been a very exciting format for me !

the trickiest/aggro is villain the more you want to bet this turn imo because your equity is so huge against his c/shove turn semi bluff range.

" i bet all my air here "

Hey Nick good video !
On the QJ hand, is your strategy to check your whole range on this flop ? Also on the river you mention that it would be bad to take this line with A9 or KhTh for reasons that make sense, but then what would be your line with those holdings ? If you go for value with this line with only 99 AA and 55 (I assume you would check turn again with QQ ? ) doesn't that make you pretty unbalanced toward bluffs when you c/shove this river ?
Also more generally I'm having trouble in those kind of spot on the river when my opponent is capped and I'm not I'm always considering going for overbet or c/r (potentially overbet c/r) and can't figure out what's the best play. What would be your line on this river with :
-TdJd ?
-ThJh ?
-AK ?
-AQ ?
-89 ?

Assuming you would play those hands like this on the turn but if not could you please explain why ?

yeah obviously you're not gonna get raised very often here, but like the other spot I personnally prefer to play my equity totally agressively or totally passively on wet boards oop. This can seem result oriented but yeah your line allowed him to play his hand perfectly, pretty sure that if the river came something scary for the Jx he put you on he would have turned his hand into a bluff.
And by the way I would still have taken the same lines than you in those 2 spots a few time ago but I realized I was bleeding too much money without showdown and I'm pretty sure those kind of spots where you have equity oop on wet boards you want to be very polarized, slowplaying so you can c/c 2 streets eyes closed or pushing your equity until vilain makes a raise that gives you an easy fold.

because i really would prefer to barell 88 for value here than c/c it, it's a 3bet pot if you hold 88 you're only beat by a few combos and have plenty of value to take on this turn imo. I understand the c/c 9T and 88 (among other stuff) on this turn and fold 9T and call 88 on the river, but I think it's really not optimal, it allows your opponent to play " perfectly " ip and accomplish his equity, nothing really good can happen to you on the river. Sometimes you will fold the best hand to a bet, sometimes he will hit top pair and check it behind, sometimes he will check behind a lower set on let's say a T river.

In my opinion if you decide to play your equity aggressively on this flop you have to continue on the turn, but yeah I find our range way easier to play there checking almost everything on the flop.

79s hand bet/calling turn is the wort option imo, I'd rather c/c and c/c some rivers which makes you put less money in that pot with your marginal hand oop, bet/3bet/fold turn is fine as well because vilain's not gonna slowplay ever that turn if he slowplayed a monster on the flop, shove any river that's not pairing the board, c/c the rivers that pairs the board unless maybe if it's a J.

also would you c/c 88 on the turn after cbetting it ??? Sounds very bad to me.

14:00 9Ts hand
I agree that c/cing is more attractive with FDs than OESD but I still think the best line here is to c/c flop since we really don't want to be raised on this flop with OESD. I'd have a very low cbet % on this flop, maybe only gutshots and bdfd stuff like AdTd that I don't mind folding to a raise and add some TT-JJ combos if I even want to be balanced here. c/c all the good draws and like AA 77 and 55 to balance, (88 has to be a c/r or a cbet because it would be terrible to not give the opportunity to another set to go broke on this flop when we hold 88). c/r 99+ and go broke with it, c/r some AK AQ with contains a heart and obviously have a decent amount of c/f.

Actually the more I think about it the more I'm convinced checking your whole range is the best option on the flop against a tough opponent, I have to admit I'm being guilty of cbetting a non balanced weak range on that flop.

The problem with your line is that against a tough opponent you won't be able to showdown your top pair like ever, it's hard for me to imagine you will c/c river nearly enough for him not to have an auto profit barelling twice his whole range.

Even though his value range is very narrow and you have very good odds for a call, I don't see people bluffing this spot expecting you to fold overpairs. It's a pretty clear fold imo.

QdKd hand, since it's really hard for us to have a bluffing range river, should we consider having smaller betsizes on that river ?

8c9c hand
as you said turn we have very little FE in that spot, what about overbetting here to let's say 52 to increase that FE ? We could easily balance that by doing the same with 44 77 and KK. That kinda sucks when we get shiped on and have to fold but I don't think that would happen very often and the hands that do so would probably raise a regular sized turn bet anyway.

I get your point but I think I'd still want to c/r this turn sometimes with some boats and combo draws. Yes we're drawing dead when he has a boat himself but he can bet turn with overpairs and draws on the turn, hands he should fold to a raise + we still have equity vs 9x. It's gonna depend on vilain's bet size obv but in my experience people tend to bet small on that spot so there is probably some room to get some c/r/fold strategy going on.

22.34 I don't like the turn barell on what is pretty much the worst card of the deck for our range since we'd probably never be c/ring 9x. Wouldn't a better strategy here be to check our whole range here to fold our weakest hands and find some c/c and c/shove balance with our value hands and draws ?

well I checked behind, vilain had 53s. 95% sure he would have folded that against a jam.

My image must be sticky aggro, good but spew decent frequency. I definitely see people just calling sets turn in that spot in my games, as well not shoving very often semi bluffs here, they often will just call monster draws here I think.

7:00
you're talking about 68% to be a high fold to 3bet % and it's actually not the first video I watch where i'm a bit surprised about those numbers and get confused. Do your tracker take in count all the times you are like in the blinds and there is an open in early position and 3bet by the button ? If it does (like mine) 68% doesn't seem to me like a high fold to 3 bet at all.

I'm really not sure we want to have a cold calling range here since we are oop, my guess would be that we want to be 4betting for value KK+ and AKs and a few bluff combos. I think QQ is a fold here.
As played postflop is kinda weird but I think it's a fold river since I really don't see anyone bluffing here ever, I'd put vilain on JJ, A6s or even AA.

Not unknown but not a reg doesn't tell us much about vilain's 3bet ip and his fold to 4bet frequencies. I wouldn't agree when you say he's checking behind a lot AJ or AQ on that flop so I wouldn't discount those too much from his range.

His value range is still pretty narrow though since it's pretty hard for him to hold aces up or any set given the preflop action. I would think people just flat 9Ts ip preflop and fold to 4bet 9To when they decided to 3bet it so that discounts the straight a lot.

The fact he basically shoves
turn means that unless he's a total psycho he doesn't have air and at
least a FD or OESD.

I agree with Daz : " You have an incredibly strong bluff-catcher here.
If you feel the
villain has the aggression to begin stabbing at the pot when checked to
then go ahead and make the call down. "

So still a call imo with the best bluff catcher of your range.

Any opponent would put you on AK a lot once you check the flop behind. An aggro vilain might try to bluff you off that, pretty sure he's like always going for 2 streets unless maybe the river is a J or 7. The overbet is not even that relevant imo and it's really possible that this is the only sizing of vilain on that river. If he's decent he would for sure value bet Jx like that, his value range isn't that narrow then.

So I think it's really vilain dependant and the more you think he will stab that turn the more you should call him down with AK. Against an aggro vilain whom you need to call down with AK sometimes, holding a diamond blocker can be the deal breaker imo. So yeah I'd call him down this time and fold sometimes and feel ok about it.