BadAstro
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I am sure this is an oft-repeated question, but even with the rake and the players being wild at the micros, is this still a good place to learn? Like, is it more valuable in the long run to have $100 to be playing PLO2 or better to wait for $1000 to play PLO10? The latter, I am guessing, being not quite as brutal on the rake and players who know a bit more about what they are doing than PLO2? Or is this bad thinking?
Sept. 8, 2015 | 8:05 a.m.
Yeah I figured as much (too late!) that 10 buy-ins was a bad decision - this wasn't meant to be my PLO roll, but rather a bit of money to see how the game is these days. Dipped my toes, should not have. I'll focus on the MTTs a little longer, as they've at least been profitable for me this year.
Sept. 7, 2015 | 5:25 p.m.
I just don't have the money (or the patience) to grind this out right now. I've been focusing primarily on NLHE MTTs for the last six months with much better results, gave myself $100 to try out 10PLO and lost $90 of it in a few hours, so I'd rather focus on the MTTs rather than split my learning up between the different games right at this time. I'll be back :)
Sept. 7, 2015 | 3:40 p.m.
Hahaha OK, I think I will try again some other time when I have more money to throw at it.
I'm 9 buy ins down, below EV according to Hold'Em Manager, after only 588 hands. That's $90 I'd rather be using for MTT entries, so I'll hang up my PLO cash game hat for the time being. Wow, this game is crazy swingy.
Sept. 7, 2015 | 3:23 p.m.
Cool, sounds good. I'll give it a try. Thanks. I'll focus on position a lot more.
Sept. 7, 2015 | 1:16 p.m.
I'm definitely not scared of going with it, but they seem to be ultra loose aggro with fit or fold post. Plenty of calling on their draws and raising when good - it's like they are playing any 4 cards (some 85% of hands) in position or out of position and calling any draw, betting when good.
This style seems ULTRA profitable for them, as across multiple tables these guys are sitting with $100+ stacks at $10 buy ins. They seem wise enough to the game that they'll be wary of ultra tight players they detect are playing only premium hands.
I'll keep trying with a super tight style against them. They obviously know something about this game that I don't.
Sept. 7, 2015 | 11:19 a.m.
Thanks. Lots to look at here. For example I am at a table were we have a 75/11 with 12 buy in stack, 62/28 with 6.5 buy ins, and a 72/14 with 3 buy ins. It seems they see almost all flops, call most flop bets or check/raise pot with any 2 pair, any decent straight draw and almost any flush draw whatsoever. Doesn't seem to be much bluffing going on - just fit or fold and make a lot of draws. Lots of flops are 4 or 5 ways at this 6 max table.
Struggling to know how to play against this type of player - maybe I should try tighten up like crazy.
Current table stats:
75/22
63/29
45/0
72/14
40/21
Sept. 7, 2015 | 8:47 a.m.
Hey, I've wondered the same thing. So you guys are saying that one simply needs to do these simulations over and over again (with your own hand histories post session?) to get a feel for approximate equities in similar situations rather than try work these out on the fly?
Sept. 6, 2015 | 10:42 p.m.
Hey - what is a video stores or article I could watch to get an understanding of the concepts you're discussing here. For example, figuring out what % of my range is x, what is meant by range balancing, and how to start thinking about this properly?
Thanks
Sept. 6, 2015 | 10:31 p.m.
Or, I guess another way to approach this is to ask if being super nitty and playing a very safe game at these stakes, betting with nuts or close to nut made hands hoping for worse players to call is a decent way to approach these stakes? Does that strategy not lend itself to learning a very simplistic game that won't help in when I have the roll to move up?
Sept. 6, 2015 | 10:22 p.m.
"MUBSy"? What's that?
Sept. 6, 2015 | 10:12 p.m.
Hmmmm. What does one look for with a hud to be able to spot a bot?
Sept. 6, 2015 | 10:11 p.m.
Hey all,
I've been out of PLO cash games for quite a while until very recently. Wanted to see what you guys thought of the best way to approach micro stakes tables where you'll often have three or four players with VPIPs of 70+ and maybe one villain with around 20. These are maniac-filled loose aggressive and loose passive tables where it seems numerous players are cold calling 3 or 4 bets to see a flop and I'm guessing generally play fit or fold.
It seems that with so much money in the pot one misses good spots if we tighten up too much, but then again if we simply have a tighter range to begin with we're going to be better off when we do hit the flop hard.
I'm curious as I've seen a few players multi tabling with vpips in the 70s or 80s and regularly sitting with 3+ buy in stacks. I'm thinking 888 and PartyPoker in particular. I'd love to learn to beat these 6PLO and 10PLO stakes as I reckon they're an excellent way to build a roll playing against mostly poor players.
So - loosen up and try see a ton of flops and hope to get it in good, or tighten up and play premiums very hard in position and aim win the few pots I do enter?
Thanks
Hey - what is meant by "your range is capped" - and is there a video series that explains this in more details?
Sept. 25, 2015 | 12:42 p.m.