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Have him marked as rec from previous play , so there's a little history.

I folded the hand btw.

Yeah, i agree turn is a good card to see. But i think a lot of recs would slow down a lot on that card. Like checking A8s at almost pure frequency and checking bluffs. Especially since our range is so top pair heavy and sometimes trips.

So my thoughts in this spot where that recs don't take this line very often with bluffs like J10s,flush draws, and 109s. And the hands I would see here almost always would be AKo, 88, AQo, QQ.

And from what I've seen in these pools is that recs 4bet very little. I think AKo and QQ are called here preflop like 75-85% of the time.

The rec would occasionally overvalue his hand with a lower ace , but i think its at such a low frequency it doesn't change too much.

We could also possibly be chopping , but i don't think that changes the equity enough to make it a call.

So i don't think we're doing too well against his range, because we're either drawing basically dead or up against hands that have good equity against us. And those bluffs aren't in the range enough to warrant a call.

Hi , is 3x BB vs SB open the best sizing for 3bets? I normally size 3.5x because it makes the SPR similiar to other 3bet pots. Also I think that 3x gives villian a small price to call in terms of BB .

Close because Villian can maybe maybe be a rec who is card dead . If player is a rec then this is a snap-call . Though 42 hands if an ok sample so unlikely .

And also depends how regs play (if they have A10o and 22 ). If it we're my player pool I'd give them like 8 combos of value that beat us , maybe like .5 combo of A9s we chop with , and like .5 10s9s that we beat.

So including the fact that there's like a 5-10% chance that this is a rec or reg fish, I'd call.

Also curious about the flop raise, I've done little work on OP spots vs MP-BU spots . So maybe this is a frequency play, but I don't know .

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I would probably just call because i don't like folding. But could easily be fold. Mainly because its hard to guess his preflop range, what he donk bets with, what he check calls with turn, and then shoves river for a bluff .

Giving him a wide range of all KQo,QJ,Q10,Q9o and all suited combos, and assuming he donk bets them at like a 15% frequency he has around 5.5-6.5 combos of Qx that gets to the river. And now decrease it because some Qx doesn't donk bet shove river.

So maybe like 75% donk bet river (no idea). so around 3.9-4.9 . And only needing around 25% equity to call he only needs around 1.75 bluff max. Maybe 2 combos if you include the turned and rivered full houses that play this way.

So I'd give him same frequencies with a 4x for donk betting flop. Around 15% donk betting frequency , so around 5 combos . And his bluffing frequency on the river around 10% (not really sure and maybe too much) so .5 combos of bluffs for 4x.
And if you add bluffs at very very small frequencies , like AK, AJ, A10, low pocket pairs, and J10s, you maybe get to enough bluffs .

I think it's a call vs that sizing. Having an A is good because you don't block bluffs.

I really don't have a strong picture of what your range looks like on the river either. Using a solver would be best.

I'd assume few Jx, a lot 7x alot 4x , Alot of Ahigh, low pocket pairs , maybe some KQo.

Though i feel when regs bet half pot or sizings that look like they want to get called , they just have it.

But I've pretty much given up on these types of population reads because unless your a bot with millions of hands to look at , you'll be subject to a lot of bias.

Playing 200nl.

Ofcourse I'd adjust , if the player is a tight 3 bettor . But overall I think this GTO range should do well vs any normal 3bet range, given that its a solved range.

One thing I haven't worked on is how IP 3bettors strategy differs , due to my range having more pocket pairs and suited connectors than range that is mostly 99-QQ, AK,AQs,AJs, A10s, KQs, KJs, and some QJs.

Spots like this I dislike. Mainly with how I think about the hand in game.

19/10 seems like a weaker reg.

So he could possibly be value betting AKo. But no clue how likely this assumption is, but leaning towards unlikely, given that he's a semi-reg.

Another assumption could be made , that most regs would barrel AA and JJ on the turn at a decent frequency, maybe checked on flop, and just called on the river.

Given his 4.5 low 3 bet, he unlikely has a lot of flush draws in his range. K10s, KJs, Q10s, 109s, and possibly low frequency K9s, 87s, 98s, Q9s.
And I would think that most flushes are barreled (good assumption i think)

So that leaves his river value range to be a low weight of slow played flushes and slow played sets. Maybe 1-2 combos.

His possible bluffs would be QhQx(possibly low weight), 10h10h, 9h9x , 8h8x (likely low weight), maybe some A10-2s (I think unlikely), some KQo with a heart that didn't want to barrel (unlikely) , and QJo with a heart that didn't barrel (unlikely).

So I like a call here , given his low value combos , possible bluffs , and dominated value hands.

Though in-game I think I might make the possible error of folding. As I get caught up in trying to picture/think about the exact # of combos with the weights based on the assumptions I make. And before I know it have 5 seconds to act and I fold because I see he's a 19/10 and I assume that these players never ever bluff. :D

I didn't solve/create them. A friend sent me them pre solved.

Good to see it matches other ranges. Yeah GTO ranges are weird . If I remember correctly MP has a wider 3 bet range vs UTG than BU or CO.

I like how the ranges could be easy to play . With a lot of hands , you either flop something or you don't such as low pocket pairs.

Though I think OP overall has a decent check raise strategy in a lot of spots , and low pocket pairs are included in it. And I haven't really done a lot of solver work to get a good sense of how the ranges plays, frequencies, and heuristics. So I have some work to do with these ranges

UTG vs 3 bet CO is calling 44-22 at 100% frequency. As well as 87s, 76s, 65s, and 54s when they aren't used as 4bets. And folding 99-88 at a 25% frequency .

Also AQo,KJs,K10s are being called at a frequency UTG vs CO, but folded 100% when not used as a 4bet UTG vs BU, which doesn't make sense.

UTG vs this action is just 4bet or fold? I would think UTG has around a 3-4% calling range.

I think most recs and regs will see this line as very underbluff, which vs a rec is very likely the case. Though I don't think you will get to this line with most regs.

What do you think about possibly overbluffing this line vs recs? A part of me thinks that there's a good chance that most recs will overfold to this.