Any suggestions when playing 6-8 tables? Sometimes it is very difficult to get reads and review HHs. Do you have any tips to view HHs and making good reads, even while playing many tables?
Also wondering: any programs that you use to know the "optimal" calling range against a 10bb shove from the CO or 15BB shove from someone in the Hijack? Does HRC already have these numbers figured out?
Good video, as a muli-tabler really liked watching it.
hi. i have question about of the last hand A5o on FTP. u raised sb A5o and ch\fold 89s8. is it the best way to play this hand in this spot? mb better ch\c or cb? thx
Hi
1) At 12.53 with AJo why not shove over the re-steal?
Think that 1st raiser (agro looking his stats) is going to be folding so much times and the re raiser is going to be under us so much times too.
2) At 27:20, which is the reason to limping BvB K8o?
Sorry for my english.
I have the same question, why not 4bet shove AJo in that spot? maybe i'm doing something wrong but i'm always shoving that range of AJo+, ATs+ 99+ with around 20~30bb eff
Hi guys. Sorry for the delay!
Thanks Jersey! Given my fairly large number of tables I'm unable to look for too many reads, but am certainly aware of hands that get to showdown which can tell us a lot. I'm not as good as I should be with poker tools but think you're right about holdem resources.
NakedBoar, This board puts us in a tricky spot and it's hard to know which line is best. I feel we'd be betting anything that connects so ch/c will probably result in us getting barreled a fair amount but with the Ac I think ch/c is fine. C-bet with the intention of ch/c or betting some turns is also fine both of which are probably better than ch/f =).
Nano/felipe 1) Certainly like a jam here. I think my reason for folding was that I didn't want to flat and get jammed on and have to fold. Given our jam is about 36bb. But agree jam is best.
2) I'm only limping to take a decent hand to the flop, but think raising a hand this good this deep is probably better.
00:57 (T5o) - personally i see more value in shoving in this kind of spot becouse i see a lot of players l/folding there like 95% of the time, with i like becouse with hand like T5o even IP i don't really want play postflop vs range that is dominating us a lot i assume (a lot of all good equity hands like connectors, better Tx's, etc etc all that they don't want probably shove pre and wan't to see a flop) i haven't made solid calculations but with this kind of badpost equity hand i prefer shippre
05:14 (QJs) - i think there could be more value by raising turn a bit lower like to 3.6k-3.8k and betting turn like 4-6k, shove most rivers. When i see this kind of donkflop from BB, i see a lot of 7x connected to board (78 79 J7 67), Tx's like T8 T9 TJ, 89 J8 J9 type hands so i think its more profitable to keep this kind of range by allowing him still calling down turn bet instead of fold him by shoving, becouse i see we are crushing his overall range and i see playing this hand on 3streets could be better instead shoving turn, what ya think.
06:51 (JJ) - at 14bb'S i see still a lot of value by raising it instead of shoving pre, by shoving we make them fold in big % of the time hands like 55 66 77sometimes ATs AJo and not letting to make for BB light stopngo, i still see sometimes some crazy 3b/fold even vs this kind of stack so i think we are lossing nothing by minraising, not afraid to play post ( we won't have much oppurunity there to play post, only vs btn probably) so minraise in my opinion would still induce much more action and make more profit in longrun there instead of shoving pre. Even if this raise looks so strong i think this doesn't matter much becouse the ranges in worst scenario would be the same if We shoving (like calling us wiht 77 ajs aq, the same after minraise).
11:12 (99) - similar story as with the JJ hand, only biggest minus there is that we allow BB defend wide all his broadways type hand that we are playing post ~@ 13bbs eff, but still we have possition and comparing to other positive aspects of raising and inducing istead of shoving, first option win for me. Of course, both options are making huge profit, but i like finding most optimal gameplay for everyhand and even if differences are not that huge in shortrun, but in longrun they could make some decent profit.(according to hrc after put optimistic ranges there isn't that big difference between shoving and minraise inducing, mr induce is better but only for like 0.3bb~ so not that much) but still, ranges are dynamic and im assumed minimal reshoving/calling ranges and we can see in some % of the time more wider plus wide defending range by BB with hands like 45s 56s 67s A2-A8s etc etc that we are making decent profit that HRC doesn't count this)
Hi Peaceandlove.
I think your comments are about part 2 rather than part 1 above, so i'll answer them here and also paste in the comment to part 2.
00:57 T5o I feel like a guy with such tight stats limping from sb that shallow will have a lot of traps so I'm not too keen on jamming on him here. If he was a bit deeper then sure he can limp fold lots but here he may jamming/folding and just limping monsters.
5.14 QJs Yes I think that could be a better way to play it. I think my aim was too focused on maximizing fold equity, but with our stack being fairly shallow and his range being mostly a non folding T or a folding 7 it's better to inflate the turn and hope he doesn't change his mind and hero riv =).
6.51 JJ From 14x I don't think there is much difference as I've yet to see someone 3b fold to 14x min, but maybe I jam too much from 14x haha. Think it is probably slightly better to min and allow the BB to peel in general though and make more this way.
11.12 99 I am an hrc noob but does this take into account that we may fold the best hand a decent % with a hand as vulnerable post flop as 99?
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Any suggestions when playing 6-8 tables? Sometimes it is very difficult to get reads and review HHs. Do you have any tips to view HHs and making good reads, even while playing many tables?
Also wondering: any programs that you use to know the "optimal" calling range against a 10bb shove from the CO or 15BB shove from someone in the Hijack? Does HRC already have these numbers figured out?
Good video, as a muli-tabler really liked watching it.
hi. i have question about of the last hand A5o on FTP. u raised sb A5o and ch\fold 89s8. is it the best way to play this hand in this spot? mb better ch\c or cb? thx
Hi
1) At 12.53 with AJo why not shove over the re-steal?
Think that 1st raiser (agro looking his stats) is going to be folding so much times and the re raiser is going to be under us so much times too.
2) At 27:20, which is the reason to limping BvB K8o?
Sorry for my english.
I have the same question, why not 4bet shove AJo in that spot? maybe i'm doing something wrong but i'm always shoving that range of AJo+, ATs+ 99+ with around 20~30bb eff
Hi guys. Sorry for the delay!
Thanks Jersey! Given my fairly large number of tables I'm unable to look for too many reads, but am certainly aware of hands that get to showdown which can tell us a lot. I'm not as good as I should be with poker tools but think you're right about holdem resources.
NakedBoar, This board puts us in a tricky spot and it's hard to know which line is best. I feel we'd be betting anything that connects so ch/c will probably result in us getting barreled a fair amount but with the Ac I think ch/c is fine. C-bet with the intention of ch/c or betting some turns is also fine both of which are probably better than ch/f =).
Nano/felipe 1) Certainly like a jam here. I think my reason for folding was that I didn't want to flat and get jammed on and have to fold. Given our jam is about 36bb. But agree jam is best.
2) I'm only limping to take a decent hand to the flop, but think raising a hand this good this deep is probably better.
hey, decent video ty
few of my thoughts during watching:
00:57 (T5o) - personally i see more value in shoving in this kind of spot becouse i see a lot of players l/folding there like 95% of the time, with i like becouse with hand like T5o even IP i don't really want play postflop vs range that is dominating us a lot i assume (a lot of all good equity hands like connectors, better Tx's, etc etc all that they don't want probably shove pre and wan't to see a flop) i haven't made solid calculations but with this kind of badpost equity hand i prefer shippre
05:14 (QJs) - i think there could be more value by raising turn a bit lower like to 3.6k-3.8k and betting turn like 4-6k, shove most rivers. When i see this kind of donkflop from BB, i see a lot of 7x connected to board (78 79 J7 67), Tx's like T8 T9 TJ, 89 J8 J9 type hands so i think its more profitable to keep this kind of range by allowing him still calling down turn bet instead of fold him by shoving, becouse i see we are crushing his overall range and i see playing this hand on 3streets could be better instead shoving turn, what ya think.
06:51 (JJ) - at 14bb'S i see still a lot of value by raising it instead of shoving pre, by shoving we make them fold in big % of the time hands like 55 66 77sometimes ATs AJo and not letting to make for BB light stopngo, i still see sometimes some crazy 3b/fold even vs this kind of stack so i think we are lossing nothing by minraising, not afraid to play post ( we won't have much oppurunity there to play post, only vs btn probably) so minraise in my opinion would still induce much more action and make more profit in longrun there instead of shoving pre. Even if this raise looks so strong i think this doesn't matter much becouse the ranges in worst scenario would be the same if We shoving (like calling us wiht 77 ajs aq, the same after minraise).
11:12 (99) - similar story as with the JJ hand, only biggest minus there is that we allow BB defend wide all his broadways type hand that we are playing post ~@ 13bbs eff, but still we have possition and comparing to other positive aspects of raising and inducing istead of shoving, first option win for me. Of course, both options are making huge profit, but i like finding most optimal gameplay for everyhand and even if differences are not that huge in shortrun, but in longrun they could make some decent profit.(according to hrc after put optimistic ranges there isn't that big difference between shoving and minraise inducing, mr induce is better but only for like 0.3bb~ so not that much) but still, ranges are dynamic and im assumed minimal reshoving/calling ranges and we can see in some % of the time more wider plus wide defending range by BB with hands like 45s 56s 67s A2-A8s etc etc that we are making decent profit that HRC doesn't count this)
Hi Peaceandlove.
I think your comments are about part 2 rather than part 1 above, so i'll answer them here and also paste in the comment to part 2.
00:57 T5o I feel like a guy with such tight stats limping from sb that shallow will have a lot of traps so I'm not too keen on jamming on him here. If he was a bit deeper then sure he can limp fold lots but here he may jamming/folding and just limping monsters.
5.14 QJs Yes I think that could be a better way to play it. I think my aim was too focused on maximizing fold equity, but with our stack being fairly shallow and his range being mostly a non folding T or a folding 7 it's better to inflate the turn and hope he doesn't change his mind and hero riv =).
6.51 JJ From 14x I don't think there is much difference as I've yet to see someone 3b fold to 14x min, but maybe I jam too much from 14x haha. Think it is probably slightly better to min and allow the BB to peel in general though and make more this way.
11.12 99 I am an hrc noob but does this take into account that we may fold the best hand a decent % with a hand as vulnerable post flop as 99?
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